Same same but different !?

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Same same but different !?

Postby morgano » Oct 31st, '11, 11:17

~]$ cd /usr/share/kde4/services/kded
bash: cd: /usr/share/kde4/services/kded: Filen eller katalogen finns inte (=does not exist, swedish)
~]$ cd /
/]$ cd usr
usr]$ cd share
share]$ cd kde4
kde4]$ cd services
services]$ cd kded
kded]$ pwd
/usr/share/kde4/services/kded
kded]$ cd /usr/share/kde4/services/kded
bash: cd: /usr/share/kde4/services/kded: Filen eller katalogen finns inte =The place I am in does not exist?!
kded]$ cd /usr/share/kde4/services/kded This one entered by copying the output from pwd above = OK
kded]$ cd /usr/share/kde4/services/kded This one entered by typing - why does it not work?
bash: cd: /usr/share/kde4/services/kded: Filen eller katalogen finns inte

sidenote: cannot repeat this problem on mandy 2010.2

Tried so search forum and bugzilla but do not know what words to search for...
Surely I cannot be the only one.
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Re: Same same but different !?

Postby wobo » Oct 31st, '11, 11:48

Can not reproduce this on Mageia 1.
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Re: Same same but different !?

Postby morgano » Oct 31st, '11, 12:08

Thank you for the quick test and relpy Wolfgang

I experienced same problem as root and another folder:

bash: cd: /usr/: Filen eller katalogen finns inte
]# cd /
/]# cd /usr/
usr]#

This and above post from working in KDE Konsole.
buut....?! now i have tried in a kernel terminal (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and had no proble,
plus I now can not repeat in Konsole either...
Weird.
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Re: Same same but different !?

Postby wobo » Oct 31st, '11, 12:58

:shock:
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Re: Same same but different !?

Postby morgano » Oct 31st, '11, 13:13

Feels like some god is kidding me...
Friday a test instrument broke, and also two units it was set to test, and i have yet to find a single cause.
Long expensive day, and customer still waiting for his equipment which i so far completely broke instead of repaired...
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Re: Same same but different !?

Postby jj83 » Oct 31st, '11, 13:42

Unmount the partition, or boot from a live distro. Then fsck the partition. It looks like a missing or damaged inode. If you want to know which partition it is, type mount in the terminal. It will probably be the first (mounted on /) unless you also have a partition for /usr. It may be something like /dev/sdb1. From the terminal of the live distro simply type
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fsck /dev/sdb1
and let it do it's thing. Answer yes to repair questions. Make sure your live distro didn't automatically mount the partition, try
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umount /dev/sdb1
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Re: Same same but different !?

Postby morgano » Oct 31st, '11, 14:41

Another (possible related) path related error

Was in a folder and curiously wanted to view a file there.
Gave kwrite full path
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services]$ kwrite /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-applet-sm_temperature.desktop
, but it opened an empty file anyway.
Went to Kwrite File>Open and in that dialog i find the path displayed twice see attahed screenshot.
If i click he left path the right vanishes.
And I can open the file OK.
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Re: Same same but different !?

Postby morgano » Oct 31st, '11, 14:45

Yes maybe filesystem - Leaving to perform fsck -
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Re: Same same but different !?

Postby morgano » Oct 31st, '11, 17:31

Booted sysresccd.org
All file systems checked OK.
Had to read up on how to activate LVM and encrypted partition...

Setup:
/boot and swap are separate partitions
/ and /home in one LVM
/home is encrypted
All are ext4
No other partitions exist
Drive=SSD Corsair Force GT 120G

I have also read SMART status and it is OK
Also run read speed test and full speed no errors.

Had one hickup during install see https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15&p=9678#p9677
Have hardly installed anything yet so i think i will reinstall.
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Re: Same same but different !?

Postby morgano » Nov 6th, '11, 01:01

Reinstalled everything including formatting
(now all partitions on the SSD except a small /boot is in an encrypted LVM)

Can not reproduce the above problem, but i have one desktop link to a program that is set to set working directory to ~, and that worked a few times, then two times it threw an error that it could not find that directory :shock: , i rebooted and it is all OK again. :roll:
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Re: Same same but different !?

Postby morgano » Nov 12th, '11, 17:38

Now i had some hickup during partitioning (tried to make dualboot with chauldron) and not even a freschly formatted partition cuold be mounted, even fsck failed also after second reformat in rescue mode.
If not for the other problems i would suspect diskdrake bug.

Probably SSD firmware / SATA controller chip / mainboard firmware / kernel... :( )

... and now i realised Corsair only have firmware updater for MSWin7, and i need to make a bootable USB DOS system to update main board :evil:

Bah!
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Re: Same same but different !?

Postby jj83 » Nov 12th, '11, 19:53

Bon courage! As they say in France.
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Re: Same same but different !?

Postby morgano » Nov 15th, '11, 15:38

Actually installed Windows 7 trial version as W7 is the only fully supported system for updating my SSD. (Neat little environment... NOT!) :evil:

Told Corsair what i think about it http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?p=541149

Currently up again on dualboot W7/Mga1 base install.
Having struggles with diskdrake+encrypted LVM+partitions. (borks on resizing, deleting etc)
My new best friends are a 2TB external disk in a dock, and sysresccd.org live system to frequently make disk images.
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Re: Same same but different !?

Postby morgano » Nov 23rd, '11, 01:30

Still running withput i see any errors at all :)
I only "play" with it while it excercise running BOINC in background.
Next week i will probably move to this as my work machine :)
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Re: Same same but different !?

Postby jj83 » Nov 23rd, '11, 14:52

Congratulations!
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Re: Same same but different !?

Postby morgano » Nov 24th, '11, 15:20

:D
Now one of the mods can change this to

[SOLVED] (SSD caused subtle problems before firmware updates)


I understand there are good and bad about being able to edit ones own posts but i find it would mostly be useful to correct, updae first post with a summary to save everybodys time, edit for clarity etc...
Is there a discussion about it?
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Re: Same same but different !?

Postby doktor5000 » Nov 24th, '11, 18:46

morgano wrote:I understand there are good and bad about being able to edit ones own posts but i find it would mostly be useful to correct, updae first post with a summary to save everybodys time, edit for clarity etc...
Is there a discussion about it?

Well, this has been discussed quite some time ago and a decision has been made by the council.
But there is a thread about a forum mod to mark your own posts as [SOLVED], you can comment there:
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Re: [SOLVED] Same same but different !?

Postby morgano » Dec 1st, '11, 22:13

OK, thanks you doctor,
and thanks for the edit.
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Re: [SOLVED] Same same but different !?

Postby johnw2738 » Dec 3rd, '11, 20:00

Thank you so much, i have been facing this problem for a long time , it is solved now.. good work done
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Re: [SOLVED] Same same but different !?

Postby morgano » Dec 26th, '11, 22:32

Thank you for reporting you had similar problems.
I would think i should get some real error messages when the drive (or whatever it was mucking with the transfers) misbehaves.
After this i am more concerned about risks of silently loosing data.
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Not solved... Same same but different !?

Postby morgano » Jan 31st, '12, 15:49

Dang...!?
Is it me or this system that need coffe?
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[root@svarten morgan]# cd /usr/lib64
bash: cd: /usr/lib64: Filen eller katalogen finns inte
[root@svarten morgan]# cd /usr/
bash: cd: /usr/: Filen eller katalogen finns inte
[root@svarten morgan]# cd /usr
bash: cd: /usr: Filen eller katalogen finns inte
[root@svarten morgan]# cd /
[root@svarten /]# cd /usr
[root@svarten usr]# cd lib64/
[root@svarten lib64]# pwd
/usr/lib64
[root@svarten lib64]# cd /usr/lib64/
bash: cd: /usr/lib64/: Filen eller katalogen finns inte
[root@svarten lib64]# cd /usr/lib64
bash: cd: /usr/lib64: Filen eller katalogen finns inte
[root@svarten lib64]# cd ../lib64
[root@svarten lib64]#
"Filen eller katalogen finns inte" = "That file or folder does not exist"

After i made a break: Tracing a clue:
Looking back on my first post i see i already noter earlier that it matters if i type, or if i copy from pwd output.
Checking: if i type "cd /usr/lib64" it fail
But if i copy the "/usr/lib64" part from the pwd output it WORKS.
Then subsequently when i type it all again, then that works too... So it is not very repeatable.
I would think it is simply the terminal KDE Konsole 2.6.4 that fouls up character encoding, buffer or whatever spaghetti.
I have not yet seen any other program fail in any way that could be because of this.

Any recommendation for another virtual terminal to use under KDE4, that supports cut and paste?

EDIT: Doh. Reading what i wrote myself above, also the file browser made mistake earlier. So it is not just Konsole although recently i have only seen it there.
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Re: Same same but different !?

Postby morgano » Jul 17th, '16, 01:03

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