Mageia still cant put bootloader (or none) on partition?

[pcunlucky]

Annoying.
Mageia might be OK or usefull, but if it -insists- on taking control of the system due to the bootloader... then nogo.
Forget UEFI, no Win either. Just: leave the MBR alone when wanted.

So. Cannot install Mageia. Weird.
(changing afterwards is not acceptable + no, uefi will not solve this either)

A lot of distros do this, so they all are not useable. Will need to check more distros. Much work.

[doktor5000]

It might help if you would clearly explain what your actual issue is.
If you don't want the bootloader to touch your MBR, there's a checkbox in installer for that which is literally called "Do not touch ESP or MBR" and there's also the option to install without installing a bootloader.
See https://doc.mageia.org/installer/9/en/c ... oader.html

On installing grub to a partition, this is also mentioned in that documentation (which might be the reason why many distros do this):

There is no option to write GRUB to the boot sector of a partition (e.g: sda1), as this method is considered unreliable.

[pcunlucky]

Did not expect a reply or even putting the post up. ok then:

For not showing that option but hiding it (not plain -no grub- ) and saying in the doc that i must -chainload- is annoying and confusing.

Unreliable? Since when dont we install mutiple Distros on one disk? If only for testing. And -yes-, we dont want them taking over boot-control; for that we have the -main- distro, working one.
And we dont chainload, but could, we just want an entry in the main grub (grub2 these days) thats what OS-prober is for. And using grub-customizer.
(and using the term ESP is annoying too. In my multi-displinary experience, abbreviations are bad bc they mean diff somewhere else)

If Mageia cant be -reliable- bc it cant have the MBR (mbr/gpt disk, uefi/bios system) then something is seriously wrong.
And i was maybe looking to install it in place of Devuan-Daedalus (no SystemD) bc its a disaster. will see.
I think its just childish to not give the choice where to install grub or at all straight away.
Its already hard enough to keep it all going.
(i would have liked a rolling distro Mageia (upgrading is hard) and OpenMandrive ROME was an option but... its a disaster)
Rosa is nice too.......but installer just bangs grub into the MBR. sjeesh. no options whatsoever.
Kali-everything.....much work to setup.
etc.
etc
(atm annoyed by usb3 support problems: uas resets....its 2025 for godsake)

[morgano]

Seesch... if you ask instead if complaining it is much easier to get help in the future...

Mageia upgrading is not hard. And alternatively install fresh and keep /home.

[doktor5000]

Seems your complaining to complain. You can install Mageia without installing a bootloader at all. Not sure what you're actually arguing about anymore.

[pcunlucky]

I see.
Well, if you 2 dont comprehend my writing then its useless to continue this.
dissappointing.
Not even a remark what happens later on when "MBR not touched" like a new kernel.
never mind then.