Copying from IDE drive

[wmb]

Need to retire a 15 year old computer to reuse the case. 300 GB IDE drive
will spin, has data I still want (verified with live CD) but I can not
install any thing while it is plugged in. With just a SATA drive can
install Mageia 5, 7 or 8 just fine. Displays a bit wonky once installed,
but that is no longer a concern. Mandriva 2008 or 2010 runs just as good
as they did back then.

Plug in the IDE and older stuff errors out during install. Newer completes
then throws a Grub error 15 at first boot. With and with out a known good drive same errors.

Cheepish IDE/SATA to USB adapter sees nothing on the problem drive. Works
with other drives.

Copying to a USB stick using (an old) live CD gets bits and pieces, but
never finishes with anything large.

Running out of ideas here. Been in the family since Mandrake 8.0,
primarily a GUI user but will try a command line solution if necessary.

[sturmvogel]

Sorry to say that, but it is absolutely confusing what you are doing (or not).

The old IDE drive is still in the old PC with an OS?
-> boot the old operating system and copy the content from the drive to an usb-pen-drive

The old IDE drive is still in the old PC without an OS?
-> use an actual live medium, start the PC, copy content from old HDD to an usb-pen-drive. Mount the old HDD as read-only when required...

Drive is outside of old PC?
-> use a suitable SATA->USB-adapter with extra power supply (everything else will fail ) and connect it to another working modern PC.
...you didn't tell which kind of adapter you are using: with/without extra power supply...

If you "only get bits and pieces" (whatever that means), your HDD can also be damaged. Use suitable tools to check the health of your HDD. It is possible that it is already damaged and your data is lost...

[wmb]

Sorry, old drive is back in the original PC. Original OS took a dump two years ago, at that time I had hopes of restoring it. Now only wish to get the data off.

Will download the live version of Mageia 8 and try that next and report back. Currently only have the install version of 8.

The SATA/IDE to USB adapter I tried (Vantec) has external power. Tiny little thing but plugs into a 110V outlet.

And yes, very aware I may not get every thing off the drive. Need to get what I can before dismantling that computer.

Thank you for your help so far!

BTW was on the mailing list that this forum replaced back in the early days of Mageia. Think I even posted a few times.

William Bagwell

[morgano]

Side note.
One of my first lessons on Linux, twenty years ago:
When I started using Linux, I copied "everything" from old drive to the new, and only too late realised I had lost the creation date: the copies got marked with copy date...
I should have used i.e

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cp -a

.

[wmb]

Side note.
One of my first lessons on Linux, twenty years ago:
When I started using Linux, I copied "everything" from old drive to the new, and only too late realised I had lost the creation date: the copies got marked with copy date...
I should have used i.e

Code: Select all

cp -a

.

Have been copying drive to drive with GUI tools for many years and it usually preserves the time stamps. Even the recent one while testing my
SATA/IDE to USB adapter. Not the drive I need...

Yes, every thing I managed to get via a USB stick was stomped all over. Your side note gave me the idea to format a USB EXT4. Unfortunately that makes the Mandriva 10 live version see it as a forbidden to write to drive. Named & mounted or just plugged in no difference.

Back to square one at the moment. Mageia 8 live will not display so is unusable. (Nor will the GUI of Systemrescue-9.05-amd64) Going to try the live version of Mageia 5 this weekend. If the torrent will run, see it is no longer available for direct download like the newer old versions.

[sturmvogel]

Still absolut unclear what you are doing.

As you try to fiddle around with an 18 years old OS! (Mandriva 10 is from 2004!) you should know what you are doing and what this ancient OS supports. Mandriva 10 only supports ext2 and ext3 filesystem. Thats why it can't see an ext4 formatted drive...
ext4 support came with Mandriva 2009.1

[morgano]

Of you want to try another system to boot old machine with, i recommend https://www.system-rescue.org/ i have used before.
You may need to us an elder version from their archive.

But an IDE to USB dock sounds smarter, if available.

[wmb]

Still absolut unclear what you are doing.

As you try to fiddle around with an 18 years old OS! (Mandriva 10 is from 2004!) you should know what you are doing and what this ancient OS supports. Mandriva 10 only supports ext2 and ext3 filesystem. Thats why it can't see an ext4 formatted drive...
ext4 support came with Mandriva 2009.1

Typo on my part, I meant Mandriva 2010. Mandrake 10 is from 2004, still have a copy from "Cheap*Bytes" but not quite daft enough to try it Errors were forbidden to write, not that it could not support the file system. USB is back to FAT...

[wmb]

Of you want to try another system to boot old machine with, i recommend https://www.system-rescue.org/ i have used before.
You may need to us an elder version from their archive.

But an IDE to USB dock sounds smarter, if available.

Thanks, did not think of looking for an older version of System Rescue. 12 years back should work with that rig, if available.

The $23 SATA/IDE to USB dock I recently bought will not see the problem drive, but does work on other drives. Will look and see if have any old junk that will still boot. Move the problem drive and use the dock in reverse of what I was trying...