Using newer version of Plasma with interesting feature.

[doktor5000]

Hi all,

I am wondering if the recent Plasma updates seen in another KDE distro will be possible to choose in here in future? There are some user features in the recent versions that are not in the version in use in Live 8. Plasma 5.26 for example has a detailed info page for SSD drives with very detailed information about usage and health. I mentioned seeing other features for KDE and that is one of them, controlled by KDE Partition Manager. Is this an update coming with 9 perhaps? It must be said that this was seen in KDE Neon, which is similar to opensuse Tumbleweed I think, with all recent updates and possibly not as stable. The information offered is very informative about the condition and time of use for the SSD and probably a normal HD if in the system. I might pull the SSD in the W-530 and put the original HD in it to see what is possible there for a readout.

My interest in the information was created by buying several used Think Pads in the last few months and am surprised by how little use one of them has had with a bit over 1,000 hours of up time total. I am sure all my previous units had many more thousand hours on them before wearing out or just becoming obsolete from too slow a CPU or too little RAM.

Cheers

I will include a text file of the info offered:

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smartctl 7.1 2019-12-30 r5022 [x86_64-linux-5.15.0-48-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-19, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, http://www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     INTEL SSDSCMMW240A3L
Serial Number:    CVCS34730164240C
LU WWN Device Id: 5 5cd2e4 04b8b4596
Firmware Version: LE9i
User Capacity:    240,057,409,536 bytes [240 GB]
Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate:    Solid State Device
Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is:   ACS-2 (minor revision not indicated)
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Thu Oct 13 23:54:48 2022 UTC
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00)   Offline data collection activity
               was never started.
               Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)   The previous self-test routine completed
               without error or no self-test has ever
               been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:       (    0) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:           (0x7f) SMART execute Offline immediate.
               Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
               Abort Offline collection upon new
               command.
               Offline surface scan supported.
               Self-test supported.
               Conveyance Self-test supported.
               Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)   Saves SMART data before entering
               power-saving mode.
               Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)   Error logging supported.
               General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:     (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:     (  48) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time:     (   2) minutes.
SCT capabilities:           (0x0021)   SCT Status supported.
               SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   094   094   000    Old_age   Always       -       5871 (82 64 0)
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       1312
170 Unknown_Attribute       0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
171 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
172 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
174 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       221
183 Runtime_Bad_Block       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1
184 End-to-End_Error        0x0033   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       221
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
225 Unknown_SSD_Attribute   0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       147191
226 Unknown_SSD_Attribute   0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       65535
227 Unknown_SSD_Attribute   0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       62
228 Power-off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       65535
232 Available_Reservd_Space 0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
233 Media_Wearout_Indicator 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       147191
242 Total_LBAs_Read         0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       243426
249 Unknown_Attribute       0x0013   100   100   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       5378

SMART Error Log not supported

SMART Self-test Log not supported

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

[morgano]

we have the SMART tools
i.e as root issue

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smartctl -a /dev/sda

Do you know you can become a tester of prerelease ISOs for Mageia 9 ?
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_ISO_testers

[benmc]

I am wondering if the recent Plasma updates seen in another KDE distro will be possible to choose in here in future? There are some user features in the recent versions that are not in the version in use in Live 8. Plasma 5.26 for example has a detailed info page for SSD drives with very detailed information about usage and health.

currently, cauldron has Plasma 5.25.4. so it is likely soon.....ish.

It is unlikely that the current Mga8 Plasma version will be updated, as it requires significant resources from the community. These resources would, in this instance, be better directed to creating a new release (Mga9), which would also likely include the (nearly) latest versions of all the major Desktops.

Mageia is a "Fixed" release model, in that, major components are not updated, except browser, and kernel, but updates occur due to security fixes for all other components.

Latest versions (and or near bleeding edge) are usually available in rolling releases, or, as in this instance KDE Neon, which is the showcase platform of the KDE Plasma development community.

regards

[zxr250cc]

Hi all,

Yes, I had the idea that Neon is a bleeding edge showcase for them and it does look great with the version of plasma that they use now. I am guessing 5.24 will look the same as that. Very nice looking with good user and admin features, if like 5.25. I used Tumbleweed for a while in the past and finally got tired of all the large updates and switched to leap before moving to Mint a few years back.

In the past I took time to customize desktops and set all sorts of changes but these days I just change the desktop background photo if I don't care for it and do updates as they roll out. Serious time used to customize the look is better spent other ways for me. I ran across Neon last week and loaded it up this week. It had version 5.25 but updated that to a newer version. Bug fixes, I would guess. I have tried four flavors of Ubuntu this last month in Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Mint and Neon. I am actively using Mint 21 in one of the laptops and have been using the X1 Carbons to run other stuff, such as Mageia 8 or whatever else looked new or interesting.

In January will be twenty five years for me using some sort of Linux. My top three for use are Mandriva>Mageia, Mint and SuSE of some sort, open or original. I do miss the documentation from the older releases but certainly understand the effort that would take and it would have to be SuSE or Red Hat with the manpower to do that or Canonical, I guess. Not likely to happen...

Cheers

[zxr250cc]

Hi all,

I tried to sign up for the mailing list as the page shown asks me to do that. My sign up was refused. ?? What sequence should be used to sign up for testing or discussions of features?

Cheers