Mageia gnome live doesnt load in virtual box

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Mageia gnome live doesnt load in virtual box

Postby schnappi » Jul 8th, '22, 14:15

Mageia gnome live stuck at the attached statements.


Please take a look at the attachment.
Please tell me if some more infos are needed.
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Re: Mageia gnome live doesnt load in virtual box

Postby sturmvogel » Jul 8th, '22, 15:38

First of all there is no need to run a live media in VB. Live medias are used to run on a system without installation. But in general it works. Mageia 8 Gnome Live 64 bit runs and installs just fine in a VB (was tested on my old Laptop).

But you don't tell anything which could be helpfull. Which kernel on host/guest? Which host OS? Which VB version? Is it from upstream or from Mageia repos (the upper icon looks like you are using Oracle VB from upstream)? Which hardware are you trying to run it on? Show meaningfull Inxi output....Is the install image on a hard drive or USB medium? Where did you try to install it to: are your VBs on a internal or external USB hard drive... As it looks like that you tried to install the live image, did you activate online media whilst installation and did an update?

Also have a look here https://forum.manjaro.org/t/live-usb-boot-stuck-at-load-save-rf-kill-switch-status/15088
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Re: Mageia gnome live doesnt load in virtual box

Postby benmc » Jul 8th, '22, 22:58

also some of your VB parameters would be nice. ;)
allocated ram and virtual HDD type and size?
which virtualbox video driver is selected?
also how much spare capacity does your VB storage location have?
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Re: Mageia gnome live doesnt load in virtual box

Postby morgano » Jul 9th, '22, 12:33

sturmvogel wrote:(the upper icon looks like you are using Oracle VB from upstream)?


I cant tell if this is your problem, but: official upstream VirtualBox do not yet have needed adaptations for recent kernel fixes.
https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30555#c41
Use our Mageia packaged VirtualBox, that is fixed.
Or, less perfect, downgrade host kernel to 5.15.43, (if you still have it installed, try to boot on it) and see if that works.
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Re: Mageia gnome live doesnt load in virtual box

Postby schnappi » Jul 17th, '22, 22:34

sturmvogel wrote:First of all there is no need to run a live media in VB. Live medias are used to run on a system without installation. But in general it works. Mageia 8 Gnome Live 64 bit runs and installs just fine in a VB (was tested on my old Laptop).

But you don't tell anything which could be helpfull. Which kernel on host/guest? Which host OS? Which VB version? Is it from upstream or from Mageia repos (the upper icon looks like you are using Oracle VB from upstream)? Which hardware are you trying to run it on? Show meaningfull Inxi output....Is the install image on a hard drive or USB medium? Where did you try to install it to: are your VBs on a internal or external USB hard drive... As it looks like that you tried to install the live image, did you activate online media whilst installation and did an update?

Also have a look here https://forum.manjaro.org/t/live-usb-boot-stuck-at-load-save-rf-kill-switch-status/15088



Which kernel on host/guest? Which host OS?
- Host Win 10

Which VB version?
- VB 6.1.34

are your VBs on a internal or external USB hard drive
- Internal

As it looks like that you tried to install the live image, did you activate online media whilst installation and did an update?
- No. I want to check how Mageia gnome looks and feels before I install it on my 2nd laptop.
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Re: Mageia gnome live doesnt load in virtual box

Postby schnappi » Jul 17th, '22, 22:37

benmc wrote:also some of your VB parameters would be nice. ;)
allocated ram and virtual HDD type and size?
which virtualbox video driver is selected?
also how much spare capacity does your VB storage location have?



allocated ram and virtual HDD type and size?
- 8GB ram
- what does virtual HDD type mean? How do I find it?
- Size is 50 GB


which virtualbox video driver is selected?
- Graphics controller is VMSVGA

also how much spare capacity does your VB storage location have?
- Approx 200GB
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Re: Mageia gnome live doesnt load in virtual box

Postby schnappi » Jul 17th, '22, 22:38

morgano wrote:
sturmvogel wrote:(the upper icon looks like you are using Oracle VB from upstream)?


I cant tell if this is your problem, but: official upstream VirtualBox do not yet have needed adaptations for recent kernel fixes.
https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30555#c41
Use our Mageia packaged VirtualBox, that is fixed.
Or, less perfect, downgrade host kernel to 5.15.43, (if you still have it installed, try to boot on it) and see if that works.


My host is Win 10
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Re: Mageia gnome live doesnt load in virtual box

Postby sturmvogel » Jul 17th, '22, 22:41

As you are using an upstream virtualbox on a Windows host it will not work as already mentioned by Morgan. Upstream virtualbox needs proper patching to be able to run modern distributions with up to date kernels.

But as already said: You don't need Virtualbox at all to test a Live DVD/USB.

LiveDVDs
Live ISO's let you try Mageia 8 without installation. You can run Mageia directly from a DVD or USB device, and try it using one of the graphical user interfaces such as GNOME, Plasma or Xfce.

If you are happy with the Mageia experience, you can then install it onto your hard drive from the Live media.
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Re: Mageia gnome live doesnt load in virtual box

Postby benmc » Jul 18th, '22, 05:40

schnappi wrote:allocated ram and virtual HDD type and size?
- 8GB ram
- what does virtual HDD type mean? How do I find it?
- Size is 50 GB

which virtualbox video driver is selected?
- Graphics controller is VMSVGA

also how much spare capacity does your VB storage location have?
- Approx 200GB


Virtual HDD type: Dynamic or Fixed.
If Dynamic, the actual *real world* used size (up to your 50GB limit) may be as little as 10GB (or less) after initial install.
When first created (before you install to it) it has a *real world* used size of very close to 2MB, which is why I requested available spare VB location capacity.

If Fixed, the actual *real world* used size (of your VB storage location) is 50GB, even before your initial install.

to find out just look in the Settings part of your Virtual Machine under "Storage" tab.

As you have ~200GB spare capacity, it looks to not be the issue.

Can you try the other virtual graphics driver options?.
and how much video memory is allocated (default is 16MB)?
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Re: Mageia gnome live doesnt load in virtual box

Postby morgano » Jul 18th, '22, 11:00

Isnt our released Live ISOs old enough that they should run on Upstream virtualbox under Win10?

Th me this smells like an issue to be discussed in VirtualBox or Windows forums.
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