Copy a Application From mandriva 2009 to Mageia

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Copy a Application From mandriva 2009 to Mageia

Postby johnch121 » Aug 5th, '20, 11:16

Hello

I do not have much of an idea about Linux but I have an appication that I use on Mandriva 2009 but have Magiea on another laptop is it possiable to copy the application from my old laptop and put it on my new one?

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Re: Copy a Application From mandriva 2009 to Mageia

Postby doktor5000 » Aug 5th, '20, 16:55

That is certainly possible, question is whether that application would still be working afterwards.
Copying the application is not the issue, but mostly the libraries / binaries it depends upon might have changed significantly or might not even exist anymore.

It would help if you would mention which particular application you're talking about, and how you installed that in the first place.
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Re: Copy a Application From mandriva 2009 to Mageia

Postby johnch121 » Aug 5th, '20, 17:27

Thank you for the reply, it is a program that was already installed on the laptop when I first brought it, it is a number plate software that is somehow connected to firefox it when the software is run it uses a web addrss of i think it is 127.168.0.0 but I may be wrong about that.
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Re: Copy a Application From mandriva 2009 to Mageia

Postby benmc » Aug 5th, '20, 21:59

doktor5000 wrote:It would help if you would mention which particular application you're talking about


if the application is not available in Mageia, but you want to use it on another system / machine, it maybe best to run it in a virtual machine.
I see that a Mandriva 9.1.iso is still available to download, so, unless the application was a 3rd party one, you could add the application to your new virtual machine from the Mandriva 9.1 repository.

if your laptop has sufficient memory and a spare core ;)
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Re: Copy a Application From mandriva 2009 to Mageia

Postby doktor5000 » Aug 5th, '20, 22:27

johnch121 wrote:Thank you for the reply, it is a program that was already installed on the laptop when I first brought it, it is a number plate software that is somehow connected to firefox it when the software is run it uses a web addrss of i think it is 127.168.0.0 but I may be wrong about that.

Do you know the name, or could you post a screenshot from that application ?

In general, if it's a web application, chances might be good that you can copy over the document root, copy over the webserver config and configure that in a normal webserver on your Mageia install.
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Re: Copy a Application From mandriva 2009 to Mageia

Postby johnch121 » Aug 6th, '20, 08:48

Thank you again for the reply the app is called Print Pro Manager
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Re: Copy a Application From mandriva 2009 to Mageia

Postby doktor5000 » Aug 6th, '20, 18:58

Doesn't seem like software that is still being offered today. You'd have to check where that application is stored, and as mentioned,
copy over the document root, copy over the webserver config and configure that in a normal webserver on your Mageia install.

webserver config should be stored somewhere below /etc/httpd - that is where the documentroot is defined, this could be below e.g. /var/www somewhere.

You should be able to find out the documentroot as root via
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grep -Ri "^[[:blank:]]+documentroot" /etc/httpd

if it's running a regular Apache webserver.
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Re: Copy a Application From mandriva 2009 to Mageia

Postby johnch121 » Aug 6th, '20, 19:54

Thank you, I will give it a go, I haven't a clue about linux but I will try :D
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Re: Copy a Application From mandriva 2009 to Mageia

Postby johnch121 » Aug 8th, '20, 09:32

Hello

I tried that using a live dvd but the folders I want to paste the files into are locked is there a way around this, I tried connecting the hard drive to another laptop which uses windows it was fine for the old mandriva drive but would read the Mageia drive, I think that is because one uses ext3 and the other ext4. Do you know of any software that would let you write to a ext4 drive from windows?
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Re: Copy a Application From mandriva 2009 to Mageia

Postby doktor5000 » Aug 8th, '20, 17:32

You're missing some context information what exactly you tried to copy, and into which folders you tried to paste it.
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Re: Copy a Application From mandriva 2009 to Mageia

Postby jiml8 » Aug 8th, '20, 17:57

Linux provides better support for NTFS or FAT than Windows provides for EXT2,3,4.

There was a driver for Windows that worked with EXT2 a long time ago, but I have not investigated that situation in at least the last decade.

You are best off formatting a drive using either NTFS or FAT if you want to use it with both Linux and Windows.

Even better, look into the VM suggestion that benmc made. This could solve all your problems and is how I. personally, handle issues like yours.
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Re: Copy a Application From mandriva 2009 to Mageia

Postby kajosim » Aug 8th, '20, 23:08

I also wondered how you are able from Windows to read (and write) an Ext3 hard drive ?

When you are not able to copy in Linux it is a matter of ownership and permissions. There are several ways of getting to know the owner of a file or directory and the permissions.
You probably need to be root to be able to copy.

I have just booted up my old Mandriva 2009.1 PowerPack. All Mandriva repositories are included and I do not see the application you mention. So I do not think it is part of a normal installation but can off cause have been installed in another way.

If the application is just a bookmark in Firefox then have a look at https://www.tennantsuk.com/number-plates/number-plate-printing/professional-number-plate-printing-solution/ .

If it is the software mentioned on https://www.tennantsuk.com/number-plates/number-plate-software/ then today the software only runs om Windows and because you have to have an account at the company I doubt they will support anything not running on Windows.

If you still will try then I support the VM suggestion. I have read that VirtualBox can convert an installed OS to a VM but have not tried myself.

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Re: Copy a Application From mandriva 2009 to Mageia

Postby doktor5000 » Aug 9th, '20, 12:53

kajosim wrote:I also wondered how you are able from Windows to read (and write) an Ext3 hard drive ?

There are various drivers that include up to ext4 support. E.g. http://www.fs-driver.org/ or http://www.ext2fsd.com/ or https://nadrin.github.io/fsproxy
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Re: Copy a Application From mandriva 2009 to Mageia

Postby kajosim » Aug 11th, '20, 00:15

Thanks Doktor5000 for your information

The fs-driver gave the best impression so I have tried to install it on Win7 and even Win10. The latter installation stopped and the PC became non-responsive so I had to do a hard shutdown, but after a reboot it seems to be working.
When you buy a PC with Windows in a consumer shop it is plain (OEM) Windows maybe with added "features" for makes like HP or SONY.
A normal Windows considers Ext2/3/4 formatted partitions as unformatted.

When someone installs freeware like fs-driver the owner of the PC should be informed including the License Agreement for the software.
So how Windows is made capable of recognizing should be mentioned as part of the context information you are asking for.
Finally, I am not sure such a Windows is capable of a "perfect" copy of parts of a Linux OS.

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Re: Copy a Application From mandriva 2009 to Mageia

Postby doktor5000 » Aug 11th, '20, 01:04

kajosim wrote:So how Windows is made capable of recognizing should be mentioned as part of the context information you are asking for.
Finally, I am not sure such a Windows is capable of a "perfect" copy of parts of a Linux OS.

Huh? What context information I'm asking for?
You asked for how to write to ext3 from windows, and I gave you an answer for your question, what exactly are you asking for now ?
And nobody mentioned that this would be suitable for a "perfect" copy.
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Re: Copy a Application From mandriva 2009 to Mageia

Postby kajosim » Aug 11th, '20, 11:31

Hi.

I am not asking anything.

OP writes :
I tried that using a live dvd but the folders I want to paste the files into are locked is there a way around this, I tried connecting the hard drive to another laptop which uses windows it was fine for the old mandriva drive but would read the Mageia drive,

It is a nice try but if you can not make a 'perfect' copy there is really no point in trying.

As I wrote earlier I have started my old Mandriva 2009.1 and the program in question 'Print Pro Manager' is not part of any of the usual repositories. So where does it come from? I would certainly like to know where all my programmes come from. In case of 3rd party programmes I would save the initial install files and any documentation. I find it difficult to help OP without more info about the application.
The best option IMHO is to make a VM of the old Mandriva 2009 - or simply run it on Windows PC as this is the only option for the application today.

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