[SOLVED] quick questions about sudo and urpmi

[brian]

I've just installed mageia, and I like it. I've started using libreoffice (first time) and it seems fine, except that when in writer (I don't know about the other apps) it happens that as I'm writing, occasionally the file tab (upper left corner) lights, and I have to deactivate it in order to continue writing.

Since this continues to happen, I'm thinking that it is either a bug in the app, or something in my keyboard that isn't working.

So I decided to uninstall libreoffice and install openoffice to see if the problem persists. But when I opened Konsole and started, here's what I got:

[brian@localhost ~]$ sudo apt-get remove --purge libreoffice*

We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System
Administrator. It usually boils down to these three things:

#1) Respect the privacy of others.
#2) Think before you type.
#3) With great power comes great responsibility.

[sudo] password for brian:
brian is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
[brian@localhost ~]$



What's up with this?

Thanks in advance...
Brian

PS. I've noted that youtube (flash?) doesn't work now, either. Only a black screen. Do I have a virus?

[doktor5000]

A warm welcome to you!

At first, the commands you entered are meant for Debian/*buntu. sudo is not setup by default,
if you want to use it you need to add the user to the /etc/sudoers, preferably with the visudo command.
Else, you can issue su - and your root password and you have a root shell login.

Also apt-get/dpkg is debian package management. On Mageia/Mandriva there is urmi and rpm.
http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Tools/urpmi
So if you want to remove all libreoffice package, you do

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urpme -a libreoffice

[brian]

Hi doktor5000,

wow, I didn't realize that mandriva is a whole new "language" compared to Ubuntu/Debian. (I only have experience with Ubuntu/Xubuntu.)

So if I put

urpme -a libreoffice

then to add open office? Is it with the same "urpme" command?

Lastly, any thoughts why youtube is no longer working? I only get black screens.

Thanks much in advance for your time,
brian

[doktor5000]

Yes, it's a whole new language, but it's really exciting, you know

urpme is for removing packages, -a is for -all, to remove all packages with the following name.
urpmi is for installing packages.
urpmq/urpmf is for querying packages in the repositories, which file is in which package and such stuff.

You can find out by looking at the man-pages, try this out:
man urpme
man urpmi
man urpmq
man urpmf

For the youtube problem, please look in one of the Flash player threads,
or if necessary, open up a new thread. You know, only one problem per thread to keep
up clarity.

[djennings]

wow, I didn't realize that mandriva is a whole new "language" compared to Ubuntu/Debian. (I only have experience with Ubuntu/Xubuntu.)

Off topic: This graphic http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Gldt1106.svg shows how Linux distros are related to each other. Mageia descends from Mandriva/Mandrake/Redhat so it inherits characteristics like the .rpm package format, Mandrakes package tools (urpmi), and a de-emphasis of sudo.

[doktor5000]

Mandriva/Mandrake/Redhat so it inherits characteristics like [...] a de-emphasis of sudo.

Umm, for the record, why do you think so?
sudo has always been available, and i like it. This is more a matter of personal taste and setup, no?

Or maybe my english is just not good enough to get your point.
Did you mean that sudo is not a key aspect for Mageia/Mandriva? Then i'd agree with you.

[brian]

Hi guys,
thanks again for your time. (Youtube works now... go figure...)

So, I gather that since Mageia derives from Mandrake/Mandriva/Redhat, then if I should want to download an app (like Skype) then I should use a version made for one of these three? In fact, I did download the skype app for Fedora because it was .rpm, but it didn't install correctly. Seems that there is a file missing or in conflict. Ugh.

Also, am I supposed to choose a repository where I get updates and new apps? If so, where do I find them?

Thanks again..

Brian

PS. Thanks for the tree! It explains a lot!

[brian]

I'm trying to use the urpme and urpmi commands, but it always gives me a "command not found" response...

Brian

[zugunder]

You should run these commands as a superuser.
Type su, then your root password.
Sudo is a "restricted" (typically, time-limited) version of su.
And I guess you know that you can do everything being root, including making all kinds of damage to your system.
Alternatively, you can try Mageia Control Center (MCC) with GUI, which is safer for a beginner I think...

As for the repos, go to MCC -> Software Management -> Configure media sources for install and update -> have checked Core Release and Updates, Nonfree Release and Updates, Tainted Release and Updates. There you also will find the list of packages for installation/deinstallation with search options and descriptions.
Do you have a 32- or 64-bit system?

[djennings]

Did you mean that sudo is not a key aspect for Mageia/Mandriva? Then i'd agree with you.

Yes, that is exactly what I mean.

[brian]

Thanks everyone for the great help. I think I'm getting the hang of it. I'll be back soon with another thread!

Brian

[brian]

You should run these commands as a superuser.
Type su, then your root password.
Sudo is a "restricted" (typically, time-limited) version of su.
And I guess you know that you can do everything being root, including making all kinds of damage to your system.
Alternatively, you can try Mageia Control Center (MCC) with GUI, which is safer for a beginner I think...

As for the repos, go to MCC -> Software Management -> Configure media sources for install and update -> have checked Core Release and Updates, Nonfree Release and Updates, Tainted Release and Updates. There you also will find the list of packages for installation/deinstallation with search options and descriptions.
Do you have a 32- or 64-bit system?

32-bit. Will that affect my updates?

Brian

[doktor5000]

No, it's only if you have a 64bit system, you also need the 32bit core release and updates sources for a few packages if you have a default install.
But if you set up the sources with MCC, than it doesn't matter. Don't know why zugunder asked.