Can't start mageia control center [Solved]

[RagingRaven]

When I try to start Mageia Control Center from the task bar (KDE) or from the start menu, nothing happens.
I also tried starting MCC from a root Konsole using 'mcc', but I get: Segmentation fault
I also get a segmentation fault when running drakconf from a root konsole.

I wanted to upgrade from mageia 4 to 5 so before starting the upgrade process I updated all packages.
I then started the upgrade process, but it failed due to insufficient space on /boot (which I have for raid, but is not important right now).
I only noticed it not working after trying the upgrade when I wanted to remove some kernels, so It could be both the upgrade process or the package updates that have caused this.

Before trying the upgrade it used to work/start fine.
What could be causing this problem?

[doktor5000]

An impartial upgrade? One of the first packages is perl-URPM, perl and rpmdrake, drakconf comes much later.
Please continue via https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_5_Rel ... _.28CLI.29

[RagingRaven]

That's probable, but in order to continue the installation I need to make room on /boot and I believe for that I need to remove some older kernels.
I'm not really sure how to do this without the software management tool in MCC.

I'm guessing I could do this with urpme, but I'm not really sure what the older/oldest kernels are called?

After that I can follow the urpmi cli method.

By the way in the 'Please note!' section it says to test with 'urpmi --replacefiles --auto-update --auto --download-all --test' and if everything looks ok install with the same command: 'urpmi --replacefiles --auto-update --auto --download-all --test', but I'm guessing to actually install I would have to remove the --test part?

[RagingRaven]

I did some more searching and was able to remove a few older kernels with urpme.
I then followed the uprmi cli method to upgrade and so far everything appears to have updated correctly.

MCC also appears to be functioning normally again so that's good as well.

a few question I have left:
Can/should I run 'urpme --auto-orphans' as the last output from the upgrade said there were a lot of orphans.
After upgrading I got a notification saying there was a new version of Mageia distribution, does that mean something went wrong? Should I ignore that message or should I follow that wizard just to make sure everything went ok?
Is there any point in keeping 1-2 mga4 kernels or won't they work at all? Same question for any other mga4 packages.

Thank you for your help

[doktor5000]

I'm guessing I could do this with urpme, but I'm not really sure what the older/oldest kernels are called?

You seem to have removed already sufficient older kernels for the upgrade to complete, but anyways:

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rpm -qa | grep ^kernel | sort -V

Will show you all the installed kernels including their version number. Version number is compared alphanumerically, from left to right.
Higher number, higher version. Letters are "higher" then numbers.

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┌─[doktor5000@Mageia5]─[20:13:27]─[~]
└──╼ rpm -qa | grep ^kernel | sort -V
kernel-desktop-3.19.3-1.mga5-1-1.mga5
kernel-desktop-3.19.4-1.mga5-1-1.mga5
kernel-desktop-3.19.4-2.mga5-1-1.mga5
kernel-desktop-3.19.6-1.mga5-1-1.mga5
kernel-desktop-3.19.6-2.mga5-1-1.mga5
kernel-desktop-3.19.7-1.mga5-1-1.mga5
kernel-desktop-3.19.8-1.mga5-1-1.mga5
kernel-desktop-3.19.8-2.mga5-1-1.mga5
kernel-desktop-3.19.8-3.mga5-1-1.mga5
kernel-desktop-devel-3.19.3-1.mga5-1-1.mga5
kernel-desktop-devel-3.19.4-1.mga5-1-1.mga5
kernel-desktop-devel-3.19.4-2.mga5-1-1.mga5
kernel-desktop-devel-3.19.6-1.mga5-1-1.mga5
kernel-desktop-devel-3.19.6-2.mga5-1-1.mga5
kernel-desktop-devel-3.19.7-1.mga5-1-1.mga5
kernel-desktop-devel-3.19.8-1.mga5-1-1.mga5
kernel-desktop-devel-3.19.8-2.mga5-1-1.mga5
kernel-desktop-devel-3.19.8-3.mga5-1-1.mga5
kernel-desktop-devel-latest-3.19.8-3.mga5
kernel-desktop-latest-3.19.8-3.mga5
kernel-firmware-20150309-1.mga5
kernel-firmware-nonfree-20150510-1.mga5.nonfree
kernel-userspace-headers-3.19.8-3.mga5

Also the -latest metapackages will tell you the version number of the newest installed kernel
- although you need to pay attention that it won't tell you if you already booted from that kernel, e.g. if you've not rebooted since you installed last kernel update.
uname -r will show you the version of the currently running kernel

You can simply uninstall some of the older kernel packages.
You shall NOT remove the -latest packages, kernel-firmware* or kernel-userspace-headers packages

Hope that helps, if something is still unclear just ask.

By the way in the 'Please note!' section it says to test with 'urpmi --replacefiles --auto-update --auto --download-all --test' and if everything looks ok install with the same command: 'urpmi --replacefiles --auto-update --auto --download-all --test', but I'm guessing to actually install I would have to remove the --test part?

Good catch, and yes - I've adjusted that. FWIW, you could also have corrected that, don't be afraid It's a wiki, and the important pages are under watch, so "wrong" edits will usually be corrected pretty quickly.

a few question I have left:
Can/should I run 'urpme --auto-orphans' as the last output from the upgrade said there were a lot of orphans.

No, better not. Please post the output of urpmq --auto-orphans here and we can go through it.
For the dangers in running urpme --auto-orphans please carefully read through https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Removing_packages

A better method of "cleaning up" is using urpmq --not-available, which will show all
packages that are not available from the currently configured repos. This will usually show up
old libraries, or 3rd party packages and such. But better enable the nonfree and tainted repos before you do that

After upgrading I got a notification saying there was a new version of Mageia distribution, does that mean something went wrong? Should I ignore that message or should I follow that wizard just to make sure everything went ok?
Is there any point in keeping 1-2 mga4 kernels or won't they work at all? Same question for any other mga4 packages.

For the upgrade notification, that is weird. Did you run

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urpmi --auto-update

after the upgrade again?
Please also post the content of your /etc/product.id

You can keep 1 or 2 mga4 kernels, but if the mga5 kernels work, there's not much point in that, better run later kernels.
But all the other mga4 packages should be kept, as not all of them have been rebuilt for mga5, some for technical reasons.
Better stick to the hint above with urpmq --not-available as that will also cover all those mga4 packages which are not available from the current repos.

[RagingRaven]

@dokter thanks for your reply.

Yes I allready found the info needed in some other topic about older kernels, i used
rpm -qa | grep kernel | sort, so almost the same and also used uname -a to find out the running kernel.

FWIW, you could also have corrected that, don't be afraid It's a wiki, and the important pages are under watch, so "wrong" edits will usually be corrected pretty quickly.

Ah didn't know that, usually you need to have some priviledges first to edit wiki's.

You can simply uninstall some of the older kernel packages.
You shall NOT remove the -latest packages, kernel-firmware* or kernel-userspace-headers packages

I allready removed some, but I was wondering if there is any point in keeping 1-2 mga4 kernels, but you allready addressed this further in your post.

No, better not. Please post the output of urpmq --auto-orphans here and we can go through it.
For the dangers in running urpme --auto-orphans please carefully read through https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Removing_packages

Yeah I read that topic, that's exactly why I asked if I should run it, In the past I usually just ran auto-orphans, but after reading that I was hesitant to do so again.
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avahi
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cups-filters
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mpage
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php-pear-SOAP
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python-curl
python-dbus
python-notify
python-pyxdg
python-smbc
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task-codec-video
tomcat-servlet-3.0-api
totem
totem-pl-parser
totem-pl-parser-i18n
usbmuxd
x264
xalan-j2
xerces-j2
xine-plugins
xml-commons-apis
xml-commons-resolver


Output of urpmq --not-available:

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lib64gpsd20-3.9-3.mga4.x86_64
lib64avformat55-2.0.7-1.mga4.tainted.x86_64
lib64digikamcore3-3.5.0-3.2.mga4.x86_64
lib64wps0.2_2-0.2.9-4.mga4.x86_64
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lib64boost_system1.54.0-1.54.0-8.mga4.x86_64
lib64ktpcommoninternalsprivate6-0.7.0-1.mga4.x86_64
lib64kipiplugins3-3.5.0-3.2.mga4.x86_64
lib64edataserver1.2_18-3.10.2-1.2.mga4.x86_64
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lib64directfb1.7_0-1.7.0-2.1.mga4.x86_64
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lib64camel1.2_45-3.10.2-1.2.mga4.x86_64
kernel-desktop-3.14.43-1.mga4-1-1.mga4.x86_64
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lib64avcodec55-2.0.7-1.mga4.tainted.x86_64
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lib64avfilter3-2.0.7-1.mga4.tainted.x86_64
lib64odfgen0-0.0.2-4.mga4.x86_64
lib64mediastreamer3-3.6.1-4.mga4.x86_64
kernel-desktop-3.14.32-1.mga4-1-1.mga4.x86_64
lib64boost_thread1.54.0-1.54.0-8.mga4.x86_64
lib64ktpmodelsprivate6-0.7.0-1.mga4.x86_64
lib64ecal1.2_16-3.10.2-1.2.mga4.x86_64
lib64orcus0.6_0-0.5.1-9.mga4.x86_64
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icu-data-52.1-2.5.mga4.noarch
lib64exiv2_12-0.23-4.mga4.x86_64
lib64rtmp0-2.4-0.git20111228.5.mga4.x86_64
lib64digikamdatabase3-3.5.0-3.2.mga4.x86_64
lib64edata-cal1.2_23-3.10.2-1.2.mga4.x86_64
lib64protobuf-c0-0.15-3.mga4.x86_64


For the upgrade notification, that is weird. Did you run urpmi --auto-update after the upgrade again?

Yes I did, 2 times in fact and also went to MCC and 'update your system' to see if there were any packages needing updates, but no packages were found.
I just checked again and today there are a few updates, but I'm guessing that's just coincidence:

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firefox
firefox-en_GB
firefox-en_ZA
flash-player-plugin
lib64nss3
lib64user1
libuser
nss
rootcerts
rootcerts-java


Contents of /etc/product.id:

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vendor=Mageia.Org,distribution=Mageia,type=Basic,version=5,branch=Official,release=5,arch=x86_64,product=Default


Screenshot:

Distribution upgrade message

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[RagingRaven]

After a few reboots I've not seen the upgrade message anymore, so I'm guessing it was just a fluke.
If/when it comes back I'll let you know.

So all that remains is orphans, how can I tell which orphans are safe to remove and which are not, is this just a matter of experience or is there some way/command to figure this out?

[doktor5000]

So all that remains is orphans, how can I tell which orphans are safe to remove and which are not, is this just a matter of experience or is there some way/command to figure this out?

That is just a matter of experience. From your output, if you would remove all those "orphans" you would probably break cups (printing), gnome desktop, remove many vide/audio codecs for everything that uses gstreamer framework,
digikam, evolution, all GTK2 stuff, totem, dvd playback, and some more probably.

E.g. you would want to mark task-codec-video and all the packages it suggested mark as "un-orphaned".urpme $(urpmq --not-available)
You can also selectively remove orphans or mark them not orphaned via qt4urpm, which is in the Mageia repos, and created by a contributor.
Explained shortly at https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Removing_pac ... ge_Orphans

An option that looks much better is look at what urpmi would want to remove with

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urpme --test $(urpmq --not-available)

and check the output if it wants to remove some essential stuff.

[RagingRaven]

Ok seeing as knowing which packages to remove and which to mark as un-orphaned is a matter of experience and I don't have the required experience, would it be better to mark all as un-orphaned or leave things as is? I'm guessing it doesn't really matter other than 'urpme --auto-orphans' showing no orphans.

By the way urpme --test $(urpmq --not-available) output:

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testing removal of icu-data-52.1-2.5.mga4.noarch kernel-desktop-3.14.32-1.mga4-1-1.mga4.x86_64 kernel-desktop-3.14.43-1.mga4-1-1.mga4.x86_64 lib64OpenEXR20-2.0.1-2.mga4.x86_64 lib64SDL_gfx14-2.0.24-3.mga4.x86_64 lib64ass4-0.10.1-3.mga4.x86_64 lib64avcodec55-2.0.7-1.mga4.tainted.x86_64 lib64avfilter3-2.0.7-1.mga4.tainted.x86_64 lib64avformat55-2.0.7-1.mga4.tainted.x86_64 lib64avutil52-2.0.7-1.mga4.tainted.x86_64 lib64boost_date_time1.54.0-1.54.0-8.mga4.x86_64 lib64boost_iostreams1.54.0-1.54.0-8.mga4.x86_64 lib64boost_program_options1.54.0-1.54.0-8.mga4.x86_64 lib64boost_signals1.54.0-1.54.0-8.mga4.x86_64 lib64boost_system1.54.0-1.54.0-8.mga4.x86_64 lib64boost_thread1.54.0-1.54.0-8.mga4.x86_64 lib64camel1.2_45-3.10.2-1.2.mga4.x86_64 lib64cdio14-0.90-2.mga4.x86_64 lib64cfitsio1-3.350-4.mga4.x86_64 lib64cmis0.4_4-0.4.1-2.mga4.x86_64 lib64cogl-pango1-1.16.0-2.mga4.x86_64 lib64cogl15-1.16.0-2.mga4.x86_64 lib64digikamcore3-3.5.0-3.2.mga4.x86_64 lib64digikamdatabase3-3.5.0-3.2.mga4.x86_64 lib64directfb1.7_0-1.7.0-2.1.mga4.x86_64 lib64ebackend1.2_7-3.10.2-1.2.mga4.x86_64 lib64ebook-contacts1.2_0-3.10.2-1.2.mga4.x86_64 lib64ebook1.2_14-3.10.2-1.2.mga4.x86_64 lib64ecal1.2_16-3.10.2-1.2.mga4.x86_64 lib64edata-book1.2_20-3.10.2-1.2.mga4.x86_64 lib64edata-cal1.2_23-3.10.2-1.2.mga4.x86_64 lib64edataserver1.2_18-3.10.2-1.2.mga4.x86_64 lib64evdev1-0.4-4.mga4.x86_64 lib64exiv2_12-0.23-4.mga4.x86_64 lib64folderarchive4-4.12.5-1.mga4.x86_64 lib64glamor0-0.5.1-2.mga4.x86_64 lib64glew1.10-1.10.0-2.mga4.x86_64 lib64gpsd20-3.9-3.mga4.x86_64 lib64hd20-20.1-3.mga4.x86_64 lib64icu52-52.1-2.5.mga4.x86_64 lib64ilmbase10-2.0.1-3.mga4.x86_64 lib64iso9660_8-0.90-2.mga4.x86_64 lib64kactivities_models1-4.12.5-1.mga4.x86_64 lib64kdcraw22-4.11.4-2.mga4.x86_64 lib64kface2-3.5.0-3.2.mga4.x86_64 lib64kgeomap1-3.5.0-3.2.mga4.x86_64 lib64kipiplugins3-3.5.0-3.2.mga4.x86_64 lib64kolabxml0-0.8.4-5.mga4.x86_64 lib64kpeople0-0.1.0-1.mga4.x86_64 lib64kpeoplewidgets0-0.1.0-1.mga4.x86_64 lib64ktpcommoninternalsprivate6-0.7.0-1.mga4.x86_64 lib64ktploggerprivate6-0.7.0-1.mga4.x86_64 lib64ktpmodelsprivate6-0.7.0-1.mga4.x86_64 lib64ktpwidgetsprivate6-0.7.0-1.mga4.x86_64 lib64llvm3.3-3.3-2.1.mga4.x86_64 lib64magick-6Q16_1-6.8.7.0-2.3.mga4.x86_64 lib64marblewidget16-4.11.4-1.mga4.x86_64 lib64marblewidget17-4.12.5-1.1.mga4.x86_64 lib64mediastreamer3-3.6.1-4.mga4.x86_64 lib64mesaopenvg1-10.0.5-1.1.mga4.tainted.x86_64 lib64mwaw1-0.1.11-2.mga4.x86_64 lib64odfgen0-0.0.2-4.mga4.x86_64 lib64okularcore3-4.12.5-1.1.mga4.x86_64 lib64orcus0.6_0-0.5.1-9.mga4.x86_64 lib64packagekit-glib16-0.8.14-3.1.mga4.x86_64 lib64plist1-1.10-2.mga4.x86_64 lib64podofo0-0.9.2-2.mga4.x86_64 lib64poppler43-0.24.3-2.mga4.x86_64 lib64postproc52-2.0.7-1.mga4.tainted.x86_64 lib64protobuf-c0-0.15-3.mga4.x86_64 lib64pyglib-gi2.0_0-3.10.2-1.mga4.x86_64 lib64python3.3-3.3.2-13.5.mga4.x86_64 lib64quvi0.9_0.9.3-0.9.3-2.mga4.x86_64 lib64raw_r9-0.15.4-2.1.mga4.x86_64 lib64rtmp0-2.4-0.git20111228.5.mga4.x86_64 lib64swresample0-2.0.7-1.mga4.tainted.x86_64 lib64swscaler2-2.0.7-1.mga4.tainted.x86_64 lib64systemd-daemon0-208-10.5.mga4.x86_64 lib64systemd-id128_0-208-10.5.mga4.x86_64 lib64systemd-journal0-208-10.5.mga4.x86_64 lib64systemd-login0-208-10.5.mga4.x86_64 lib64tracker0.16_0-0.16.2-5.mga4.x86_64 lib64upower-glib1-0.9.23-1.1.mga4.x86_64 lib64visio0-0.0.31-3.mga4.x86_64 lib64webp4-0.3.1-2.mga4.x86_64 lib64wpd0.9_9-0.9.9-2.mga4.x86_64 lib64wpg0.2_2-0.2.2-2.mga4.x86_64 lib64wps0.2_2-0.2.9-4.mga4.x86_64 lib64wxgtku2.9_5-2.9.5-2.mga4.x86_64 lib64x264_133-0.133-0.20130823.stable.2.mga4.tainted.x86_64 lib64xcb-sync0-1.9.1-2.1.mga4.x86_64
Removal is possible

But again my experience isn't great enough to know what most packages do.

[doktor5000]

Well, hardest are the library packages. Better don't care about it and mark all orphans as non-orphan via
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Removing_pac ... n-orphaned

And then, please finally mark the thread accordingly by editing the topic of the first post and prefix it by [SOLVED], thanks

[RagingRaven]

Will do, thank you for your time and effort

[lightblue]

Hi,
I have this issue but nothing has fixed it yet. i can't start MCC, unless i restart my system.
Do i have to search for orphans and non orphans packages and so?

[doktor5000]

Please note that the last reply in this thread was nearly 2 months ago. For your issue please read viewtopic.php?p=59728#p59728 and reply there.