Mageia5 RC amd64 DVD (not live edition) UEFI w/ USB?

[tlmiller]

Trying to install Mageia5 RC w/ Cinnamon, so using the generic image. My laptop is UEFI only, legacy support is entirely deactivated. I can boot Debian Jessie USB no issues, KaOS USB no issues, and of course Windows DVD boots no issues, but when attempting to boot from this on a USB drive UEFI doesn't see the USB drive as an option to boot from. I checked the sums on the image before dd-ing it onto the USB drive. I tried putting Debian Jessie on it, and then it worked, so not a hardware issue, re-dd'd Mageia and same thing, no boot. Just to test, downloaded the KDE live image, and it boots fine.

[benmc]

Hi

If your usual system is Mageia4, would you mind trying again, using "isodumper" to write the usb device. Available from your online repos. It has a special mode for UEFI requirements.

also have a look here https://wiki.mageia.org/en/UEFI_how-to

regards

Benmc

[tlmiller]

I use Debian. Does using dd not work on the RC images anymore? That's too bad. I reinstall frequently (I like to change things too often) so often need to recreate my install USB's. Thanks for the information. Do you know if Mageia ever plans on going back to a dd-able image?

[benmc]

Hi

this is one of those "using the tools you know" things.
I understand that "dd" will work for the non-UEFI .iso though.
If you have already downloaded the x86 .iso, would you consider burning it to dvd.
It definitely runs from the disk.

regards
benmc

[tlmiller]

I'd have no problem doing it, but a major problem getting it installed that way, my desktop is the only system I own that has an optical drive. My laptops are thin & light, optical-drive-less.

[doktor5000]

You also simply copy the contents of the image to a FAT32-formatted USB drive: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installing_o ... _USB_stick
Be sure to use the correct label for that drive.

[tlmiller]

You also simply copy the contents of the image to a FAT32-formatted USB drive: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installing_o ... _USB_stick
Be sure to use the correct label for that drive.

Yeah, I read the instructions. A bit too much like actual work for me. I'll just wait for Mageia to offer an image that works with dd again, or just skip trying 5 in it's entirety. I'm too old and lazy to go through that many steps. I will admit while I had a pc that wasn't UEFI (I got rid of my last one just a month ago), I was liking what Cauldron was looking like.

On a semi-related subject, is there a mailing list I can get on to be notified if/when Mageia adds the support for UEFI with dd on their images? Currently with Mageia 5 not working with dd for UEFI, all my laptops are running Debian, which I like to have a little more variety than that. Unfortunately I'm also a bit picky, and Magiea was one of the few distro's that I'd found that I really liked other than Debian.

[doktor5000]

I've asked for this on our developer mailing list, you can follow the progress there:
https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.f ... 00354.html
Otherwise I'll keep you posted.

[tarakbumba]

You also simply copy the contents of the image to a FAT32-formatted USB drive: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installing_o ... _USB_stick
Be sure to use the correct label for that drive.

Yeah, I read the instructions. A bit too much like actual work for me.

I don't think that you've read the instructions carefully:

You can use the isodumper package (version 0.40 and over) to do that easily, it is in the Mageia repositories since Mageia 5 and in Mageia 4/core/updates repositories. If you haven't it see: Preparation of an USB stick.

Is it really hard to using a gui tool to dump the contents to usb stick? Browsing the iso image, selecting the right correct label from the list and checking few boxes and clicking on the next button shouldn' t be so much work.

[doktor5000]

Yeah, I read the instructions. A bit too much like actual work for me.

I don't think that you've read the instructions carefully:
[...]
Is it really hard to using a gui tool to dump the contents to usb stick? Browsing the iso image, selecting the right correct label from the list and checking few boxes and clicking on the next button shouldn' t be so much work.

Seems you did not read his previous reply. He is using Debian, and hence isodumper is not in his repositories.
viewtopic.php?p=56596#p56596

[stormi]

Although it could be simpler (in Mageia 6 maybe), the procedure remains very simple even without Isodumper, especially for a experienced linux users. It's up to you to decide if you want Mageia 5 or not in the end.

Format your USB stick as FAT32 (probably easy for you)

Label it "MGALIVE"

Copy the contents of the ISO to the key (in Dolphin, I right click the ISO, extract it, then copy that).

Done.

[tarakbumba]

Yeah, I read the instructions. A bit too much like actual work for me.

I don't think that you've read the instructions carefully:
[...]
Is it really hard to using a gui tool to dump the contents to usb stick? Browsing the iso image, selecting the right correct label from the list and checking few boxes and clicking on the next button shouldn' t be so much work.

Seems you did not read his previous reply. He is using Debian, and hence isodumper is not in his repositories.
viewtopic.php?p=56596#p56596

Ah, i see. That's my bad. Sorry.

[doktor5000]

Yeah, I read the instructions. A bit too much like actual work for me.

Out of curiosity, could you please try the attached package and report back if this works on debian? I've simply converted our isodumper package to a .deb:

isodumper_0.41-2_all.deb

(197.54 KiB) Downloaded 402 times

[tlmiller]

It installs just fine, however fails to launch.

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10: /usr/bin/isodumper: [[: not found
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/isodumper/isodumper.py", line 27, in <module>
    import gtk.glade
ImportError: No module named glade

Although it could be simpler (in Mageia 6 maybe), the procedure remains very simple even without Isodumper, especially for a experienced linux users. It's up to you to decide if you want Mageia 5 or not in the end.

Format your USB stick as FAT32 (probably easy for you)

Label it "MGALIVE"

Copy the contents of the ISO to the key (in Dolphin, I right click the ISO, extract it, then copy that).

Done.

I read the instructions. Like I said, that's more steps than I feel like following. My testing of distros consists of 3 steps.

1. Insert USB
2. dd if=xx of=xx
3. boot from USB

I'm simply past the point where I'm willing to go through more hoops than that in order to install a distro because while I like testing them, and there are some (like Magiea) that I like, I know debian will work like that, every time, without fail, without issues. So if another distro doesn't support hybrid iso (there's still a few), I don't bother testing it. It's not a "I can't", it's a "it's simply not important enough to me to bother". Yes, I probably miss out on some good distro's that way. I'm ok with that in the grand scheme. Yes, it makes no logical sense given that I often do a netinstall and build my OS from that rather than start with a full install and customize it, so I'm already do FAR more work than it would be than to create a partition, mount an iso, and copy the files. And I realize that, and won't argue that I'm being illogical. It's just how I am. When I was in my 20's, I probably would have done all that, but nowadays I'm like my father. Stuck in my ways and won't change them simply because I no longer care. If I was doing the install for someone ELSE, then I'd actually do it, but for myself...bleh.

[doktor5000]

Interesting approach
Would be a good time to refresh them with Mageia - that is if it works OK for you, no?

[tlmiller]

Interesting approach
Would be a good time to refresh them with Mageia - that is if it works OK for you, no?

I actually realized I was on a laptop with Debian and I could test if it installed and ran, so edited my post.

[doktor5000]

It installs just fine, however fails to launch.

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10: /usr/bin/isodumper: [[: not found
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/isodumper/isodumper.py", line 27, in <module>
    import gtk.glade
ImportError: No module named glade

You probably need some python glade module, this is what I have:

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┌─[doktor5000@Mageia5]─[15:03:45]─[~]
└──╼ rpm -ql pygtk2.0-libglade
/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/glade.so

And [[ is a shell builtin/keyword, at least of bash:

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┌─[doktor5000@Mageia5]─[15:05:52]─[~]
└──╼ LC_ALL=C type [[
[[ is a shell keyword
┌─[doktor5000@Mageia5]─[15:05:59]─[~]
└──╼ ls -al /bin/sh
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Jan 27 18:20 /bin/sh -> bash*

[tlmiller]

You are correct, install python-glade2 (after 3 tries of not being able to type glade) and it launches now. I'll see if it actually works tonight.

[stormi]

This will end up being more work than the manual steps in the end, but it's nice of you to try

[tlmiller]

This will end up being more work than the manual steps in the end, but it's nice of you to try

I also realize that, but because in the end, I'm just inserting usb, choosing a file, and walking away while it does it's thing, I don't mind doing the testing to see if it works. I long ago accepted that I'm not logical in my approach to computers.

[tlmiller]

Fails. The "details screen" has exactly the same information in it as the log file. Error attached, and the log file is...well, useless.

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Target Device: Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 (/dev/sdb) 3828Mb
Image : /home/tim/Mageia-5-RC-LiveDVD-KDE4-x86_64-DVD/Mageia-5-RC-LiveDVD-KDE4-x86_64-DVD.iso
Target Device: Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 (/dev/sdb) 3828Mb


That's it, that's all is in the logfile.

[papoteur]

Thanks for reporting.
At which step this error occurs?

[tlmiller]

When I attempt to apply anything. First happened when I attempted to format the drive to fat32, so formatted it through gparted, then happened when I attempted to write to device with the image. Same error, only difference is the logfile the first error didn't have the 2nd and 3rd lines.

[tmb]

It installs just fine, however fails to launch.

I read the instructions. Like I said, that's more steps than I feel like following. My testing of distros consists of 3 steps.

1. Insert USB
2. dd if=xx of=xx
3. boot from USB

And now you can...

try with this one:
http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/p ... 64-DVD.iso

I have fixed the iso build process so dd should work.

If there is no issue with it in testing all Mageia 5 final isos that supports UEFI will be built like this one

[tlmiller]

Downloading now.