Mageia Br in trouble

[otto]

To whoever can help,
I am Otto Sá (the founder and the Mageia Br administrator) from Mageia Brazil. But we are confronting problems because we don't have anylonger the host to keep our forum; the Mageia Br wiki and the Mageia news Blog. And no money at all to hire a new one. Once Mageia.org promissed to help us to get a new host to locate the Mageia Br. Thus, this is the opportunity to help us. We are out of order for more than two weeks and no hope to get back sooner. I am looking forward to hear from you. This is our last chance to get Mageia Br alive again.The Mageia Brazil has a large community and we have no place anylonger to discuss about Mageia there.We are eager to solve it up because Mageia is about releasing Mageia 3 on may, 2nd, 2013.
Cheers.
Otto Sá. (the founder and the Mageia Br administrator).

[fraterlinux]

We really need help. Please help how they could we have a forum in Portuguese? How they could help with the wiki in Portuguese? As the team Mageia community can help us? We await response.

[isadora]

Topic is subject of attention in the council as we speak.

[kernow]

Hello,
We own several web hosting company's and would be happy to provide Mageia Br with free cpanel account, web space and bandwidth.
Send a PM or contact support at 1uhost.com

[otto]

Hello,
We own several web hosting company's and would be happy to provide Mageia Br with free cpanel account, web space and bandwidth.
Send a PM or contact support at 1uhost.com

Thanks a lot kernow! We accept your assistance. I will send a pm for more details (e-mail and gtalk).
Cheers.
Otto.

[kernow]

Hi,
You say the forum and website is down but we see that is working OK, http://forum.mageiabr.org/
What is the relationship between http://forum.mageiabr.org/ and http://www.mageiadobrasil.com.br/
???

[fraterlinux]

The forum is partially down. Sometimes we can visualize it, but it is impossible to post new messages! Since April 2 we can not post messages. See the error appears:

http://forum.mageiabr.org/posting.php?mode=post&f=16

Error 503 Service Unavailable

Service Unavailable

Guru Meditation:

XID: 1765036329

Varnish cache server

[kernow]

Hello fraterlinux,
An account has been set up using the domain name mageiadobrasil.com.br as requested by Otto Sa. Details of login and account have been sent to him.
A pity you cannot use the forums original domain name ?
Regards.

[otto]

Hello fraterlinux,
An account has been set up using the domain name mageiadobrasil.com.br as requested by Otto Sa. Details of login and account have been sent to him.
A pity you cannot use the forums original domain name ?
Regards.

Thanks a lot dear Chris Kernow. We from Mageia Brazil appreciate too much your support.Now our webmaster nickname Padula is migrating the old forum, wiki and news (blog) to the 1uhost.Very kind of you.
Cheers.

[otto]

Hi,
You say the forum and website is down but we see that is working OK, http://forum.mageiabr.org/
What is the relationship between http://forum.mageiabr.org/ and http://www.mageiadobrasil.com.br/
???

Hi Chris,
I didn't have the opportunity to explain to you earlier. For your information the http://forum.mageiabr.org/ is the old domain hosted by 4host in Brazil (the older supporter).The http://www.mageiadobrasil.com.br/ is the Mageia Brazil new domain registered by myself.I will update sooner the Mageia.org (the wiki).
Cheers.

Edited: View the new forum Mageia do Brasil .We started working at http://www.mageiadobrasil.com.br/forum/

[marja]

This is great news

We shouldn't forget to ask Maat to change the link to the Brazilian forum. And I should check for maybe a link in our wiki that needs to be changed (maybe there is one on a page about local communities). I'll report here after checking.

[otto]

Dear Mageia buddies,
Just to let you know ! We're almost ready in new official website of Mageia Brazil! The new official forum Mageia Brazil was reinaugurated in new server in U.SA. . It is under testing! Drop in on at http://mageiadobrasil.com.br/forum/ and Join it! The users can now register from now on.Our webmaster Padula is ending it and he is doing a great job. He made it nicely. Besides my special thanks to Chris Kernow to the sponsorship of the Mageia do Brasil. Therefore, my sincerely thankful greetings to Marja to try to help us too.I could not keep on without his help. Please update the Mageia.org to shift the information at the main page at the Mageia.org.
Best Regards.
Cheers.
PS: The Mageia do Brasil wiki and news hub will be make in time to come.

[marja]

Thanks for the update, Otto

The new forum looks really nice (but so did the last one )

https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Working_with_local_communities#First_list_of_communities and
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Forums_team#Other_Mageia_forums
have now been updated.
Maat will change the links here https://forums.mageia.org/en/index.php and https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewforum.php?f=20

Do more mageia.org links need to be updated, or is this all?

Is it possible for people outside Brazil to join the forum? (Asking because that wasn't easy with the former Brazilian forum.)

[marja]

Ah, yes: at least 4 links to the Brazilian forums on this page:
http://www.mageia.org/pt-br/community/

Is that all or is there more?

Do you have time to make a bug report for that, Otto? This is something only someone from the webteam can do.

[filip]

Congratulations for your new home.

Ah, yes: at least 4 links to the Brazilian forums on this page:
http://www.mageia.org/pt-br/community/

Is that all or is there more?

Do you have time to make a bug report for that, Otto? This is something only someone from the webteam can do.

Actually any i18n team leader can do it as those are not hardcoded into php. These link are in lang files (intended for i18n). Padula was very active on them IIRC.

PS.: I have a side question. Web pages are well translated for pt-br but much less for pt. Are there any volunteers for that in old forum or new one of course?

[marja]

Ah, yes: at least 4 links to the Brazilian forums on this page:
http://www.mageia.org/pt-br/community/

Actually any i18n team leader can do it as those are not hardcoded into php. These link are in lang files (intended for i18n). Padula was very active on them IIRC.

Ah, nice, I didn't know they were in the lang files

PS.: I have a side question. Web pages are well translated for pt-br but much less for pt. Are there any volunteers for that in old forum or new one of course?

Is it really needed? I've never met anyone Portuguese who had a problem understanding Brazilian Portuguese. We don't have separate translations for British English, USA English, Australian English etc. either, even if they do have slight differences in spelling, vocabulary and grammar, too.

TBH, I think the Brazilian translations can be copied to the missing Portuguese ones. Docteam did the same for installer help for Mageia 2, and so far no one complained.

[otto]

Thanks for the update, Otto

The new forum looks really nice (but so did the last one )

https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Working_with_local_communities#First_list_of_communities and
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Forums_team#Other_Mageia_forums
have now been updated.
Maat will change the links here https://forums.mageia.org/en/index.php and https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewforum.php?f=20

Do more mageia.org links need to be updated, or is this all?

Is it possible for people outside Brazil to join the forum? (Asking because that wasn't easy with the former Brazilian forum.)

Dear marja,

Please remove this old url as brazilian official forum at

http://www.mageiabr.org/forum/

Our Brazilian Mageia forum (official) now which is under construction is located at

http://mageiadobrasil.com.br/forum/

However, we are under testing and maintenance, new users can join there easily.

Cheers.

Otto Sa.
filip said: "Congratulations for your new home."
Thanks, filip.

PS: I noticed someone from the Mageia team has already changed it at viewforum.php?f=20
As regarding portuguese translations in my opinion It's not necessary anylonger because Brazil and Portugal has orthography agreement. There are only slight differences.
Thanks at all.

[filip]

As regarding portuguese translations in my opinion It's not necessary anylonger because Brazil and Portugal has orthography agreement. There are only slight differences.

Thanks, I didn't heard for "orthography agreement" before. What exactly does it mean?

So basically we (i18n team) can copy "pt-br" web translation files to "pt" as Marja suggested?

[otto]

As regarding portuguese translations in my opinion It's not necessary anylonger because Brazil and Portugal has orthography agreement. There are only slight differences.

Thanks, I didn't heard for "orthography agreement" before. What exactly does it mean?

So basically we (i18n team) can copy "pt-br" web translation files to "pt" as Marja suggested?

dear filip,
officialy, nowadays we have the same orthography in both countries.But in fact there are some differences in some words like american english and british english.But they are very well understandable.
Cheers.

[marja]

As regarding portuguese translations in my opinion It's not necessary anylonger because Brazil and Portugal has orthography agreement. There are only slight differences.

Thanks, I didn't heard for "orthography agreement" before. What exactly does it mean?

An agreement about spelling rules, when to use a comma etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthography

[fraterlinux]

Otto

It is very important that migrated content from old forum http://forum.mageiabr.org/ to the new forum, because we have a lot of material help and tips since Mageia 1.
If you can not, at least should have the link for those looking for support in portuguese for older versions as Mageia 1 and same Mageia 2.

[otto]

Otto

It is very important that migrated content from old forum http://forum.mageiabr.org/ to the new forum, because we have a lot of material help and tips since Mageia 1.
If you can not, at least should have the link for those looking for support in portuguese for older versions as Mageia 1 and same Mageia 2.

Dear fraterlinux,
Unfortunately, I can't make it.The old forum is another domain and this does not belong to me anymore. old forum, old history! Now we have another forum, the Mageia do Brasil at http://mageiadobrasil.com.br/forum/
We are starting up a new history there.Besides,the good news we are buiding up a the Mageia Brasil wiki at http://www.mageiadobrasil.com.br/wiki/doku.php
It's working. Already done! The Mageia do Brasil blog news is almost ready at http://mageiadobrasil.com.br/portal/
Please, drop in on there and take a chance for the new Mageia do Brasil.For the the Mageia novices we have advanced support team to help them up there.
Cheers.

[fraterlinux]

Dear Otto,
When we forget the rights and wrongs of the past, we risk repeating them unnecessarily. We are already in the new forum, but all that work should not be lost. There are many hours of volunteer work that can be thrown away ...

Cheers...

[otto]

Dear Otto,
When we forget the rights and wrongs of the past, we risk repeating them unnecessarily. We are already in the new forum, but all that work should not be lost. There are many hours of volunteer work that can be thrown away ...

Cheers...

Dear fraterlinux,
Certainly not. All the stuff there should not be lost at all.The Mageia do Brasil team are struggling too much to save everything from there to copy (control c and control v) to the new one. We are facing problems because the old wiki is full of spams.For the reason that all the articles at the old wiki were created by ourselves.The new wiki will be ready as soon as possible.We let you know when will be ready.We have a lot of tasks with a few volunteers.Thus, I beg your patience to release it sooner.If you have knowledge about wikis. You could help us there too. All assistance there are welcome.
Cheers.

[fraterlinux]

Otto

I think the new wiki is in good hands and will soon be available again. Only I see no reason to ignore all documentation reasonably old forum. It may be useful to the user of the Portuguese language that seeks material concerning Mageia 1 and 2.

Sincerely,

FraterLinux