mageia on small laptop

[pmithrandir]

Hello.

I recently installed mageia 2 on my eCafe (hercule). It works great.

I have a lot of services enable on startup, and I would like to know if I can disable some of them. Maybe there is some wiki page about it ?

Or maybe first, if there is a way to get the full list of service enable on console to give it to you for advice.

Thanks
Pierre

[digigold]

Have you used Mageia's Service Manager located in the System section of the Mageia Control Center? It can also be accesed by:

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$ drakxservices


[pmithrandir]

Hello,

yes, I went in the MCC and checked my services.
The problem is that a lot of them have name hard to connect to there real description.

I hope some of them would not be very usefull, and will allow me to remove them, but I don't really know which one to disabled.
To get advice from the forum, I was interested to get a linux command to generate the list of services avaliable on my computer in text format, and then, for advice on what to remove.

Mageia 2 works, but it's a little slow, even with 1 GB of memory.

Thanks,
Pierre

[djennings]

Mageia 2 works, but it's a little slow, even with 1 GB of memory.

Which desktop are you using? If it is KDE, 1GB of memory is not very much at all.

[pmithrandir]

I'm using KDE, in ultra portable mode. (different presentation)

The memory seems to be not so much used... it's just that the chole system doesn't respond and boot very quickly. (a minute)
usually, small laptop sell in store boot much quickly because a lot of stuff are disabled. I'm trying to reproduce it.

Thanks

[djennings]

If you are using KDE I think you will find that what is killing your performance are the twin performance hogs akonadi and nepomuk. They will be consuming much more resource than any of the system services.

The only reliable way I found of stopping them running is to uninstall them. That will also rip out applications that depend on them such as Amarok but there are faster and lighter alternatives you can use instead (such as Clementine)

After having been a long time KDE user for many years I finally gave up on KDE when Mageia 2 came out and have switched to XFCE

[pmithrandir]

thanks for the advice.
I thought that just disabling the index creation was enough.

I will uninstall it on my computer also.
And Amarok is definitly not welcome on my computers, so it's not an issue.

I don't want to switch to XFCE for the moment, I have KDE on another computer and it's enough for me to learn how to set up one desktop environment.
If anyone has other improvment idea, I'm open to suggestion.

Pierre

[doktor5000]

The only reliable way I found of stopping them running is to uninstall them. That will also rip out applications that depend on them such as Amarok but there are faster and lighter alternatives you can use instead (such as Clementine)

There are better ways to do it: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Speeding_up_ ... _Resources
This will remove Akonadi, Nepomuk can be easily disabled and you can still run Amarok (if you want to)
Above mentioned wiki page has some more hints to speed up KDE.

@pmithrandir: Maybe before you start disabling some services, best show which your currently have so others could take a look.
You may also want to analyze system startup via plotting it into an SVG and looking at it afterwards, similar to bootchart:

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systemd-analyze plot > boot.svg

[digigold]

systemd-analyze is a hand tool. It is not installed by default, so you must install the systemd-tools package. (I believe this pkg has only one file, systemd-analyze..)

[digigold]

The only reliable way I found of stopping them running is to uninstall them. That will also rip out applications that depend on them such as Amarok but there are faster and lighter alternatives you can use instead (such as Clementine)

There are better ways to do it: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Speeding_up_ ... _Resources
This will remove Akonadi, Nepomuk can be easily disabled and you can still run Amarok (if you want to)

Even w/o Akonadi and Nepomuk, Amarok is still a memory hog IMHO. Clementine is great and much less resource intensive. (My current favorite audio player in fact.)

[pmithrandir]

There are better ways to do it: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Speeding_up_ ... _Resources
This will remove Akonadi, Nepomuk can be easily disabled and you can still run Amarok (if you want to)
Above mentioned wiki page has some more hints to speed up KDE.

Thank you. I used them yesterday. I didn't have much time to test, but it seems to be a little bit quicker with the advices of your page.

@pmithrandir: Maybe before you start disabling some services, best show which your currently have so others could take a look.
You may also want to analyze system startup via plotting it into an SVG and looking at it afterwards, similar to bootchart:

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systemd-analyze plot > boot.svg

Do you know a command to get the list of all services running ?
I don't want to copy paste 50 lies from the MCC if I can avoid it.

As soon as I got the result, I will put it here.


Regarding amarok, I don't use it, for the same reason than other people in this thread. I tried to uninstall it when I was on mageia 1, and it was not possible without removing KDE, but I will eventually try on mageia 2 to see if it's allowed now.

[wintpe]

chkconfig --list|grep on

[doktor5000]

chkconfig --list|grep on

Doesn't list all services ...

With systemd you can do something like

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systemctl list-unit-files --type=service

or

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ls -a /lib/systemd/system/*.service /etc/systemd/system/*.service

You may want to look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd
or http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysVinit_ ... Cheatsheet

[pmithrandir]

Bonjour

Voici la liste des services :

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UNIT FILE                                   STATE   
accounts-daemon.service                     disabled
acpid.service                               enabled
alsa-restore.service                        static 
alsa-store.service                          static 
alsa.service                                masked 
atd.service                                 enabled
autovt@.service                             disabled
avahi-daemon.service                        enabled
avahi-dnsconfd.service                      disabled
canberra-system-bootup.service              disabled
canberra-system-shutdown-reboot.service     disabled
canberra-system-shutdown.service            disabled
colord.service                              disabled
console-kit-daemon.service                  disabled
console-kit-log-system-restart.service      static 
console-kit-log-system-start.service        static 
console-kit-log-system-stop.service         static 
console-shell.service                       disabled
cpufreq.service                             enabled
crond.service                               enabled
dbus-org.freedesktop.Avahi.service          enabled
dbus-org.freedesktop.hostname1.service      static 
dbus-org.freedesktop.locale1.service        static 
dbus-org.freedesktop.login1.service         static 
dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service enabled
dbus-org.freedesktop.timedate1.service      static 
dbus.service                                static 
display-manager-failure.service             static 
display-manager.service                     static 
dm.service                                  static 
dracut-shutdown.service                     static 
emergency.service                           static 
fedora-autorelabel-mark.service             static 
fedora-autorelabel.service                  static 
fedora-configure.service                    static 
fedora-loadmodules.service                  static 
fedora-readonly.service                     static 
fedora-storage-init-late.service            static 
fedora-storage-init.service                 static 
fedora-wait-storage.service                 static 
fsck-root.service                           static 
fsck@.service                               static 
getty@.service                              enabled
halt-local.service                          static 
halt.service                                static 
ip6tables.service                           disabled
iptables.service                            enabled
irqbalance.service                          enabled
kexec.service                               static 
lm_sensors.service                          disabled
mandriva-boot-links.service                 static 
mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service         static 
mandriva-everytime.service                  static 
mandriva-kmsg-loglevel.service              static 
mandriva-save-dmesg.service                 static 
mdmonitor-takeover.service                  disabled
mdmonitor.service                           disabled
messagebus.service                          static 
netfs.service                               masked 
NetworkManager-wait-online.service          disabled
NetworkManager.service                      enabled
networkmanager.service                      disabled
ntp-wait.service                            disabled
ntpd.service                                enabled
ntpdate.service                             static 
plymouth-halt.service                       static 
plymouth-kexec.service                      static 
plymouth-poweroff.service                   static 
plymouth-quit-wait.service                  static 
plymouth-quit.service                       static 
plymouth-read-write.service                 static 
plymouth-reboot.service                     static 
plymouth-start.service                      static 
polkitd.service                             disabled
poweroff.service                            static 
prefdm.service                              static 
proc-bus-usb-setup.service                  static 
quotacheck.service                          static 
quotaon.service                             static 
rc-local.service                            static 
readahead-collect.service                   static 
readahead-replay.service                    static 
readahead-sort.service                      static 
reboot.service                              static 
remount-rootfs.service                      static 
rescue.service                              static 
rpcbind.service                             enabled
rsyslog.service                             enabled
rtkit-daemon.service                        disabled
sensord.service                             enabled
serial-getty@.service                       static 
sound.service                               masked 
speech-dispatcherd.service                  disabled
sshd.service                                disabled
syslog.service                              enabled
systemd-ask-password-console.service        static 
systemd-ask-password-plymouth.service       static 
systemd-ask-password-wall.service           static 
systemd-binfmt.service                      static 
systemd-hostnamed.service                   static 
systemd-initctl.service                     static 
systemd-journald.service                    static 
systemd-localed.service                     static 
systemd-logind.service                      static 
systemd-modules-load.service                static 
systemd-random-seed-load.service            static 
systemd-random-seed-save.service            static 
systemd-readahead-collect.service           enabled
systemd-readahead-done.service              static 
systemd-readahead-replay.service            enabled
systemd-remount-api-vfs.service             static 
systemd-shutdownd.service                   static 
systemd-sysctl.service                      static 
systemd-timedated.service                   static 
systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service              static 
systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service              static 
systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service        static 
systemd-update-utmp-shutdown.service        static 
systemd-user-sessions.service               static 
systemd-vconsole-setup.service              static 
udev-configure-printer.service              disabled
udev-settle.service                         disabled
udev-trigger.service                        static 
udev.service                                static 
udisks2.service                             static 
udisksd.service                             disabled
upowerd.service                             enabled
user@.service                               static 
xdm.service                                 disabled

129 unit files listed.



Vous en pensez quoi ?

Merci pour votre aide,
Pierre

[doktor5000]

Bonjour

Voici la liste des services :

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Vous en pensez quoi ?

Merci pour votre aide,

Please don't forget this is an english forum

This is what i'd disable, as i don't use any of those:

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UNIT FILE                                   STATE   
atd.service                                 enabled
avahi-daemon.service                        enabled
avahi-dnsconfd.service                      disabled
crond.service                               enabled
dbus-org.freedesktop.Avahi.service          enabled
dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service enabled
iptables.service                            enabled
NetworkManager.service                      enabled
rpcbind.service                             enabled
sensord.service                             enabled


If you use NFS shares, you may want to keep rpcbind.service though! Also you should take a look what is maybe autostarted within KDE,
regarding KDE's own services (systemsettings -> Startup and Shutdown -> Service Managemen) and also other stuff which is desktop-agnostic
-> check
~/.config/autostart
~/Autostart
and also
/etc/xdg/autostart/

[pmithrandir]

Sorry for the french. i'm keeping switching from one langage to another... my mistakes.

I will try to disable these servcies, except networkmanager because I use it.
Hoping it will result in some improvments.

Another question would be, is there any service / process at the startup that check the hardware present in the computer ? I mean, my ecafe is never going to change, except more memory maybe, do I need to check at each boot that the config is the same(if mageia does it)

Thank you,
Pierre

PS : It start to be more fluid, even if desktop effect are now enable.

[doktor5000]

Another question would be, is there any service / process at the startup that check the hardware present in the computer ? I mean, my ecafe is never going to change, except more memory maybe, do I need to check at each boot that the config is the same(if mageia does it)

Yes, the mandrake_everytime service launches harddrake during boot. You may need to edit /etc/init.d/mandrake_everytime or /etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime i always forget which is which.

[pmithrandir]

Hello,

I used the MCC service panel to disable them.
Does it work like that ?
(I remember that it was not so sure after the migration to the new init system)

[doktor5000]

Well, it should, but best check via systemctl / ps -ef if they are really disabled.