Fedora services

[laidlaws]

Just out of interest, what are all the Fedora services in the MCC services dialog? With that and other references, one could be pardoned for thinking that Mageia is becoming more like a fork of Fedora. Not that it would be a bad thing; Fedora has solid community support. Combined with a Mandriva-style desktop, it would be close to my ideal distro.

[wintpe]

I guess theres two questions there.

each service comes on line with a package/rpm so you need to see that you are comparing like for like.

for example there wont be NFS services if you have not installed NFS.

the other question or suggestion , (In My Opinion ) I agree, ive always thought of Mageia/mandriva as the KDE centric fedoera, with a slightly more polished finish.

Both being based on the redhat core, they are going to always share so many similarities, even if they are developed independantly.

Fedora is the root of the tree realy with respect to all redhat derived builds, so everything based on it, scientific, centos, RHEL, Magia, etc will share much comonality.

regards peter

[wilcal]

Mageia is a fork of Mandriva. Mandriva was
a name change from Mandrake. Mandrake was
a ( European ) fork of Red Hat, circa Jul 1998.
You can see a little bit of the history here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandriva_Linux

Mageia of course uses RPM ( RedHat Program Manager ).
Fedora of course is the Community version of RedHat.
I've been fairly successful on taking RPM packages
out of the Fedora repos and installing them into
Mandriva/Mageia.

Maybe someone will step up here and define if
the future for Mageia will remain aligned with
Fedora/RedHat or move away from it.

If your building a BIG Corporate Linux install
your likely using RedHat/JBoss. Read all about
that here:

http://www.redhat.com/

RedHat is the OS of choice for NASA so in kinda
of a distance connection, Mageia's cousin is being
used by NASA.

Adam Williamson, a big contributor and past site manager
for the Mandrake/Mandriva forum, was hired by RedHat.
Many of us here remember Adam fondly.

[wintpe]

if i can just clarify something you have said (not that what you have said is wrong)

fedora is in fact the test bed for future RHEL, not just the community version.

RHEL 5 is a very conservative RH release , and uses quite an old base of fedora with upstream critical fixes backported.

RHEL 6 has broken/strayed from being so very conservative a line, perhaps because Linux is getting more mature, but primarily because of
upstream changes that bring huge benefits to low latency performance.

RHEL ls not just used by NASA, its used by almost every financial organization in most major cities, ie London, New York, Tokyo.

Redhat also contributes more changes to the kernel then any other organization as far as im aware (anyone correct me if that has changed).

I do hope Mageia does not stray from this solid base in the future, in my opinion, anyone suggesting it to be more debian based, should go and used a Debian based dist.

regards peter

[mk]

Installing Fedora packages in Mageia or any other RPM based distro is silly. The fact that it installs and runs is cool, but it may have not so easily visible side effects. If some Fedora package (or any other for that matter) is needed, it's always advised to get it's src.rpm and rebuild it for your machine.
People running RHEL/CentOS do that rather often, so they are used to it.

Fedora really is a community version RedHat uses as a base later. It bases it's stuff on it, polishes it for better compatibility and supports it for a long time (CentOS6 will be supported till 2020).
And since RedHat is still by far the biggest kernel contributor, it has the means and know-how to patch the rather old kernel in it's RHEL lines to support new hardware, even though it may not be enough. There was a rather big update in Xorg which RedHat would normally not do, but it was required for new hardware to work e.g. So I agree with 6 not being so conservative as it used to be, but since circumstances require that, no other way.

I think RHEL6 and derivatives (and Debian6) seem to be the last really working Linux for some time, because today's Linux in general is quite a mess.