Mageia 2 Beta 2 first impressions

[ferri]

There are so many better distributions, even in Beta, that I am not wasting anymore of my time with Mageia.

This is quite hard claim.
But.
During last weekend I had in virtual both Kubuntu 12.04 Beta 1 and Mageia 2 Beta 2 KDE.
But I must honestly state, that Kubuntu was in better condition that Mageia according me.

[pmithrandir]

Be careful, the names of the release are not exactly the same.

in Kubuntu we have :
Beta1 : 1rst of march
Beta 2 : 29th of March
Release (LTS): 24th of april

In Magia, it is :
Beta1: Feb. 21st
Beta2 : Mar. 15th
Release Candidate : Apr. 10th
Final release : May 3rd

Mageia have one more release before the final one.
The idea of Ubuntu is to allow all people who want to test the distribution to install it from beta1, when mageia reserved the beta 1 version to dev and packager.

The problem this time with mgeia was that crappy RPM bug. Nobody would care in alpha, but people expect a beta to give a first relevant impression on the final product quality. For Mageia, it seems that Beta 1 means that it's still just for dev.

it could maybe be a good thing to take in mind for mageia 3, to name the releases with differents name to not put beta tag before releasing a stable core.

[wobo]

The idea of Ubuntu is to allow all people who want to test the distribution to install it from beta1, when mageia reserved the beta 1 version to dev and packager.

Wrong. Cauldron, no matter what stage it is in, is open to everybody who wants to test and give qualified feedback. And it is meant to be "not for you" for those who tend to make up premature reviews and speculations about the final.

[ferri]

Mageia have one more release before the final one.

I agree with you.
But I was comparing Kubuntu Beta 1 vs. Mageia Beta 2.

[pmithrandir]

Check the release planning from mageia annd ubuntu, you will see the difference.

Maybe it's wrong, but mageia add reviever at beta2 when ubuntu add them in beta1.

Sources :
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PrecisePangolin/Beta1/Kubuntu


EDIT : Ok

What would you think was better in Kubuntu than in Mageia ?
stability, usability, ...

[wobo]

Maybe it's wrong, but mageia add reviever at beta2
Sources :
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development

I see what you mean, but that's of course misleading and should be changed. What the editor(s) of this table probably meant with this was that the version in question should be released with the related group as main target. Also giving a signal to those who do not understand the difference between a normal version and something with a tag, reading "This is NOT for production environments".

Still standing is the call for everybody for testing and reporting bugs. Yu can read that in every release announcement.

[ferri]

What would you think was better in Kubuntu than in Mageia ?
stability, usability, ...

I do not think that stability is Mageia problem.

I mention two main issues:
1. There was not any problems with updating packages.
2. I am not satisfied with Mageia Network Center tool. I think that knetworkmanager has better quality.
I have problematic usb mobile internet modem Huawei E1750. It is not working in Mageia viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1750
But for Kubuntu with knetworkmanager no problem. Plug in, set mobile internet provider, browse.

[pmithrandir]

i agree with you about knetworkmanager. I personnaly use it with mageia in place of the mgaaplet.

[wobo]

Using urpmi and the konsole there was no problem with updating Mageia.
Networkmanager & knetworkmanager are a no-go for my setup, in Mageia and Ubuntu likewise.

As you see, different workflows and different configurations in hardware and software. That's one of the reasons you can not compare distributions in this manner as you did.

[ferri]

As you see, different workflows and different configurations in hardware and software. That's one of the reasons you can not compare distributions in this manner as you did.

But despite not working mobile internet, I am still on Mageia.

[smoreau]

At doktor5000

What are your advice for the undetected USB scanner ?
I commented on this bug :
https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3616

Thanks

[doktor5000]

Use Mageia 1 if you need a system for productive usage, simple as that.

[smoreau]

Use Mageia 1 if you need a system for productive usage, simple as that.

My daily distribution is MGA1, I just want to help the Mageia team in testing beta2, and for that i use dedicated partitions on my main harddisk.
So I followed your advice and fill the bug : 5078

Thanks again

[isadora]

smoreau,

Please add the link to your bug-number, this makes finding information easier.

[smoreau]

OK this one :
https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5078

[isadora]

Thanks!!!

[almusalimalmusalimah]

hello everyone

i have two big problem in my second machine that i decided to use mageia 2 on it

so

i installed kde and i havent any problem in it yet except two thing

bluedevel (( bluetooth manager )) cant see the bluetooth device

second thing

URPMI-DISPATCHE && LZMA

always running and overload the CPU

and i cant kill it

if i do .... it will rerun itself

i finally managed to kill it .... by killing it parent (( packagekit )) and using (( urpme to remove it ))

[doktor5000]

i installed kde and i havent any problem in it yet except two thing

bluedevel (( bluetooth manager )) cant see the bluetooth device

Have you verified that the bluetooth service is started and running?
What does

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systemctl status bluetooth.service

return?

If it shows inactive (dead) as status just restart it via

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systemctl restart bluetooth.service

[almusalimalmusalimah]

the problem has been solved

thanks Mr.Doktor5000

Update

aaaaa...... Mr.Doktor5000

it seems that i need to do this step every time i restart the distro

so.... is there any way to solve it

[wilcal]

I've done a boot.iso install on one of
my older platforms. A 7+ year old 1.8Mhz
Celeron system with 1GB of DRAM. Install
of KDE went very well and all functions
that I expected to work, albeit worked
slowly, went well.

[raycleve]

Installed Mageia 2 Beta 2 with Gnome on Dell Inspiron 530 Desktop. Seems to be running beautifully. All updates installed correctly.
Cheers. Ray.

[RAIDENSUB]

I installed Mageia 2 Beta 2 using boot-nonfree.iso i586 and choosing LXDE. Then i installed kdebase4. KDE works ok and fast. The problem i have is that when i try to install wine i get this:

To satisfy dependencies, the following package(s) also need to be installed:

- gimp-2.7.4-4.mga2.i586
- gimp-help-2-en-2.6.0-3.mga1.noarch
- libbabl0.1_0-0.1.6-1.mga2.i586
- libgegl0.1_0-0.1.8-1.mga2.i586
- libgimp2.0_0-2.7.4-4.mga2.i586
- libmpg123_0-1.13.5-1.mga2.i586
- libopenraw1-0.0.9-1.mga2.i586
- libwmf0.2_7-0.2.8.4-23.mga2.i586
- sane-frontends-1.0.14-11.mga1.i586
- wine-gecko-1.4-1.mga2.i586
- wine32-1.4-1.mga2.i586

Why i have to install gimp for wine to work?

[jaywalker]

That's easy. . . You might want to . . . It's because without it you couldn't . . .

Damn! You got me there. Welcome to Other-People's-Notions-Of-Dependency Hell

[RAIDENSUB]

That's easy. . . You might want to . . . It's because without it you couldn't . . .

Damn! You got me there. Welcome to Other-People's-Notions-Of-Dependency Hell

Thanks for the welcome.

[almusalimalmusalimah]

hello again

there is a problem with wireless-tools

sometimes when i remove a package like GDM Or packagekit

it will become an orphan

obviously if i do that (( removing the orphans ))

that will kill the wireless connection next reboot

so i need to use

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urpmi wireless-tools

to tell urpmi to remove it from orphans list before using

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urpmi --auto-orphans

so ..... has anyone face such a problem like that

if its yes ..... then i suppose we need open a bug at https://bugs.mageia.org/

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and there is another strange thing here

why kde the whole kde need telepathy for

i mean it's just a messenger