[SOLVED] Mageia hasn't a control panel.

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[SOLVED] Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby dwhite » Dec 13th, '11, 12:56

I've come across a glaring problem (at least to me)! Mageia has no control panel. I need to adjust the keyboard repeat and the mouse actions. It probably isn't something anyone who hasn't a slight disability as I have would notice. These are age related problems normally and I'm probably one of the more mature users.
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panal.

Postby dubigrasu » Dec 13th, '11, 13:07

Go to Menu>>Tools>>System Tools>>Configure your Desktop.
Scroll down the window until you reach the Hardware section and double click on Input Devices.

Additionally for mouse settings you can right click on the desktop, choose Folder View settings and select from the left panel Mouse Actions.
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby dwhite » Dec 14th, '11, 17:21

If I think back I may have read that the GUI only tells the command line what to do. so there's a file and there must be, that controls the keyboard I could just edit it. I've looked but a hint on the name would help. I used to alter the touch pad in Mandrake but I don't remember the name
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby dubigrasu » Dec 14th, '11, 18:56

Sorry, I don't quite understand what you want.
You asked for a control panel from where to adjust the keyboard/mouse settings. Have you tried the ones I mentioned in my previous post?
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby wobo » Dec 14th, '11, 19:01

This is a bit confusing. First you tell us you need a GUI because of restricted ability to use the command line, now you ask for a file to alter.

Besides, there's also the MCC with its module for input settings.
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby pmithrandir » Dec 14th, '11, 19:38

on which environment are you ? If it's KDE, you can use the "system setting" panel. otherwise, I don't know.
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby dwhite » Dec 14th, '11, 21:06

I'm sorry to confuse you. I do need a GUI normally, but even though it might take me many attempts, I do know how to edit a file. I was forty when I was disabled so I've spent 4/5 of my life active and fit. Even now I just can't type without getting duplicate letters in a word. or 'Q'or 'E' when I want W . Its my balance and fine motor skills that have deteriorated. but I can still use a mouse just not double click it. I have looked briefly was amused to see style=Powerpack.
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby wobo » Dec 14th, '11, 21:13

dwhite wrote:I have looked briefly was amused to see style=Powerpack.

Where did you see that?
And did you look at the hints we gave you?

(I've experienced a stroke this summer and from the first week after I can imagine how it is to lose control, all the best!)
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby dwhite » Dec 15th, '11, 10:00

I do try all the hints,I tried mcc but in my installation the things I need aren't there.
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby wobo » Dec 15th, '11, 12:30

wobo wrote:
dwhite wrote:I have looked briefly was amused to see style=Powerpack.

Where did you see that?
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby doktor5000 » Dec 15th, '11, 13:02

Are you running KDE or GNOME? In KDE -> systemsettings (configure your desktop) -> input devices -> keyboard -> keyboard repeat
and the same place for mouse settings like double click treshold. Otherwise please list which things you need.
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby dwhite » Dec 15th, '11, 13:44

I'm Running KDE, To answer Wobo I don't exactly remember but as I look up I see in the Mozilla tool bars under the location bar, a most visited Bar that must be a hold over from the Mandriva 2010 installation because it should be blank but has (yellow star )Mandriva(yellow star )Mandriva store(yellow star )Mandriva Expert etc... ending with Partners
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby dwhite » Dec 15th, '11, 14:24

I've tried it must be that it hasn't installed , doctor500 when I installed the live disk it was just as you say but, in this 64-bit KDE environment when you left click on the desktop you can alter colour and that is it
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby doktor5000 » Dec 15th, '11, 14:46

dwhite wrote:I've tried it must be that it hasn't installed , doctor500 when I installed the live disk it was just as you say but, in this 64-bit KDE environment when you left click on the desktop you can alter colour and that is it


Then that installation would be broken. Try running it via
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kcmshell4 kcm_keyboard

This is included in package kdebase4-workspace, which is a basic package in every kde installation.
You could maybe try to
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urpmi --replacepkgs kdebase4-workspace
which reinstalls that package,
and overwrites the existing files, sort of an repair option.

Out of curiosity, is that with an old /home or from a fresh install?

The other part about left clicking on the desktop and only being able to alter colour, i don't understand.
Left clicking on the desktop does nothing, but right-click opens a context menu, and with a default setup,
clicking there on "settings for folderview" you can select background, type of background (static image, colour, weather, pattern, time of the day background ...)
mouse actions and display options (icons size, icon layout ...)
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby dwhite » Dec 15th, '11, 17:20

I routinely do a Install using the old /home I stopped getting the install DVD's from the2010 edition,perhaps that was a mistake.
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby doktor5000 » Dec 15th, '11, 17:33

Well, you shouldn't use a /home older than from 2010.2, and even then it's not recommended keeping your KDE settings.
Just rename your ~/.kde4/ and logout and back in, that should help. Otherwise think about creating a new user account
and migrating your settings to that one, it's cleaner overall.
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby rolltide101x » Dec 15th, '11, 18:23

Perhaps a fresh install would be best? Also from my experience KDE is more glitchy than Gnome (sorry guys) so maybe try Gnome if you havent. But being as experienced as you are. I am sure you have plenty of experience with both and know how to pick which you want
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby doktor5000 » Dec 15th, '11, 18:49

KDE is not "glitchy" whatever your understand under that term, been using it here since 3.1 something
and never had some "glitches". Please refrain from spreading things like that.
Also a fresh installation will not resolve the problems from using an existing /home.
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby dwhite » Dec 15th, '11, 20:04

I've reinstalled Mandriva 2010 again I'll re-download the dual CD the one I burned it to was re- writeable. I checked the checksum it looked right. those command line utilities erred so I'll try again.
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby doktor5000 » Dec 15th, '11, 21:31

The dualarch CD does not have KDE on it, just for your information. And if you don't post the errors you got we can't help you effectively.

EDIT: I'm curious, you said you upgraded via the dualarch last time from Mandriva. The dualarch CD only has LXDE on it,
did you add KDE via software management and in case you did, what did you install exactly?
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby rolltide101x » Dec 15th, '11, 22:02

doktor5000 wrote:KDE is not "glitchy" whatever your understand under that term, been using it here since 3.1 something
and never had some "glitches". Please refrain from spreading things like that.
Also a fresh installation will not resolve the problems from using an existing /home.


KDE is indeed glitchy, I installed Mageia 1 on my GF's laptop and installed Gnome and KDE so she could pick the one she likes best. Within 5 minutes KDE crashed and had to reload. This has happened to me every time I have ever tried KDE on various distros and computers and I am not supposed to share my opinions? I am not saying "KDE sucks, get rid of it" I am saying from my personal experience I have had bad luck with it and was suggesting to try gnome if they had no experience with it. But obviously that is not the case in this scenario.

I also meant saving the Home directory elsewhere and erasing the partition to reinstall then pulling the data he wanted to keep later.
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby isadora » Dec 15th, '11, 22:05

Please, on-topic gentlemen. thanks!!! ;)
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby dwhite » Dec 16th, '11, 00:25

I've downloaded another ISO burned and booted, logged on as root deleted the CD as source and am installing as I type. On the old CD spell-checking was never enabled from the get-go. So I'm quietly confident, K3d said the checksum was right too, but as we all know that installations can fail from good disks. I thought the check was right before too.
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby dwhite » Dec 16th, '11, 14:48

This time I've done a completely clean install. Backed up any essentials on a USB stick. I thought all this time I was using KDE many of my older settings were being used by LXde, are they closely related.
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Re: Mageia hasn't a control panel.

Postby doktor5000 » Dec 16th, '11, 15:37

dwhite wrote:I thought all this time I was using KDE many of my older settings were being used by LXde, are they closely related.


KDE and LXDE are actually not related at all. You can think of LXDE as some lightweight GNOME replacement,
as it also uses GTK (Gimp Toolkit) And it's comparable to XFCE, which is also a lightweight desktop replacement.
LXDE doesn't use any KDE specific settings.

Also LXDE doesn't have any of the settings you want via onboard tools, from a short look.
Maybe you should either try KDE or XFCE, they can be installed by either task-xfce or task-kde meta packages
which will pull in all the needed dependencies. I'd go with KDE if your computer is not that old.
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