[SOLVED] Todays Mageia 6 update took away kde

[canadaist]

On my main box, there are 6 Mageia boxen here, 9 linux in total, after latest update, and rebooting [because glibc] I was presented with [?] xkde? enlightenment? login and no offer / ability to switch to another, only login, no kde.
And of course, upon login I have some unidentified system.


Using MCC I find that the only Display Manager available is XDM

EDIT: Long story short don't use auto-orphan.

auto orphan removed lots of needed files, I have re-installed many needed files KDE/Plasma works fine again

what a newb

[doktor5000]

If that update happened on the previous boot, please post at least the output as root of

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journalctl -ab-1|grep -F '[RPM]'

[canadaist]

=Thanks Doktor

I looked at ####Help us to help you REMINDER####
and couldn't find things that might help me or others solve my problem, nor produce info for you

journalctl -ab-1|grep -F '[RPM]'

produced no output

[canadaist]

OK here is a weirdness.
Having found that kdm is no longer offered I went to find it's replacement in naming

and discovered one should probably never use

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auto-orphan

ever

I already knew that....

Problem solved. Again auto--orphan will remove many things you need.

But I already knew that.

*sigh*

[doktor5000]

I looked at ####Help us to help you REMINDER####
and couldn't find things that might help me or others solve my problem, nor produce info for you

Well, with the information provided there's nothing that could others help comprehend or reproduce that issue. I also did an update, and my KDE was not removed.
And what do you expect should we put into such a thread, you simply cannot cover all possible breakages there.

FWIW that command is contained in our software management MAQeia

journalctl -ab-1|grep -F '[RPM]'

produced no output

Try again with double quotes

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journalctl -ab-1|grep -F "[RPM]"

If that still doesn't produce output, that either means on the previous boot there have been no urpmi/rpm transactions, or the logging on your box is broken, or the syntax changed (but I believe it still worked when I used that last time).
Does

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journalctl -ab-1

produce any output ?

[canadaist]

Doktor I am sorry for wasting your good time.

I used auto-orphan, I know not to. To solve my problem I used

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plasma5-task

I have kde again
Dont despair that only newbs ask questions. I will work longer before asking dumb questions


journalctl -ab-1|grep -F "[RPM]"
still produces nothing

journalctl -ab-1
produces lots

[doktor5000]

Doktor I am sorry for wasting your good time.

Well, you did not waste my time, but you wasted your time and your box

journalctl -ab-1|grep -F "[RPM]"
still produces nothing

Hmmm, might have to look into that when I get back to a Mageia box.

[canadaist]

Glad I didnt waste your time.

I learn by doing. I have just finished upgrading hardware on two computers, and OSs' as well. I didnt get the "uefi isn't ready for primetime" warning strongly enough. [[YMMV I am sure there are plenty of folks who would have had a much easier time of going from 32bit machine to a modern 64bit cpu and upgrade the OS easier than I...]]

And my assumption, that after some six years of, upstream [Mageia is not responsible for maintaining it], complaints about auto-orphan and its ridiculous haphazard removal of random rpms might have meant it was improved, proved unfounded, but not unimaginable.
https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=31&hilit=auto+orphan

[doktor5000]

complaints about auto-orphan and its ridiculous haphazard removal of random rpms

The rpms are not random, and if you run it without looking through the list even, though you know what it does, and as you have mentioned you knew you shouldn't run it, and then still complain - that is something that sounds a little ridiculous, at least to me.
Nobody forces you to run it.

And according to https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14594 the auto-orphans hint should not be shown anymore, at least not in rpmdrake. If it still is, you should open a bugreport about it. If no one does, probably nothing will be changed.

[doktor5000]

journalctl -ab-1|grep -F "[RPM]"
still produces nothing

Hmmm, might have to look into that when I get back to a Mageia box.

Still works as expected, and it does not matter if single quotes or double quotes are used.

[wintpe]

i use auto-orphan all the time.

but you have to be sensible with it and look at the list it suggests it will remove.

sometimes if you have just updated your system, and not rebooted, the suggested list is crazy, and will wipe out your system.

running it after booting off the result of an update, results in a much smaller list.

there are a few things that should set off alarms.

if its trying to remove the subsystem task-

for example

task-plasma5-5.8.7-2.mga6.noarch.rpm or task-plasma5-minimal-5.8.7-2.mga6.noarch.rpm

then just dont run it, its going to wipe out your system.

regards peter