Problem with last two Mageia updates

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Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby beagle10 » Jul 22nd, '13, 01:39

When I boot with most recent 2 updates, I get blank screen. Last succesful boot up is Mageia 3.8.13--1
Not sure if this a known bug.

Here is my hardware:

Asus U46E-Bal7
CPU: i7
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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby benmc » Jul 22nd, '13, 07:12

Hi

do you have a Nvidia or AMD graphics device?

If so you may have to [re]install drivers for the later updates.

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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby doktor5000 » Jul 22nd, '13, 19:18

Which have been the two most recent updates for you?
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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby beagle10 » Jul 22nd, '13, 22:07

Computer has integrated Intel HD Graphics 3000.

Problems with two most recent updates:

Updated 2 days ago (3.8.13.4-1) and an earlier one that came about 10 days ago.
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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby doktor5000 » Jul 23rd, '13, 20:03

From the version you mentioned, looks like a kernel update. Please post the out put of
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rpm -qa --last | head -25
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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby beagle10 » Jul 23rd, '13, 20:33

Here is the output:

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[xxxxxx@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa --last | head -25
libxml2_2-2.9.0-5.2.mga3.i586                 Sun 21 Jul 2013 02:15:42 PM CDT
x11-driver-video-vboxvideo-4.2.16-1.mga3.x86_64 Sun 21 Jul 2013 02:15:37 PM CDT
drakguard-0.7.14-1.mga3.noarch                Sun 21 Jul 2013 02:15:36 PM CDT
xlockmore-5.41-2.1.mga3.x86_64                Sun 21 Jul 2013 02:15:35 PM CDT
libxml2-python-2.9.0-5.2.mga3.x86_64          Sun 21 Jul 2013 02:15:34 PM CDT
libxml2-utils-2.9.0-5.2.mga3.x86_64           Sun 21 Jul 2013 02:15:33 PM CDT
vboxadditions-kernel-desktop-latest-4.2.16-1.mga3.x86_64 Sun 21 Jul 2013 02:15:32 PM CDT
vboxadditions-kernel-3.8.13.4-desktop-1.mga3-4.2.16-1.mga3.x86_64 Sun 21 Jul 2013 02:15:09 PM CDT
lib64xml2_2-2.9.0-5.2.mga3.x86_64             Sun 21 Jul 2013 02:15:08 PM CDT
cpupower-3.8.13.4-1.mga3.x86_64               Thu 11 Jul 2013 07:25:23 PM CDT
mc-4.8.7-2.1.mga3.x86_64                      Thu 11 Jul 2013 07:24:45 PM CDT
evince-3.7.1-2.1.mga3.x86_64                  Thu 11 Jul 2013 07:24:42 PM CDT
lib64evince-gir3.0-3.7.1-2.1.mga3.x86_64      Thu 11 Jul 2013 07:24:33 PM CDT
kernel-desktop-latest-3.8.13.4-1.mga3.x86_64  Thu 11 Jul 2013 07:24:33 PM CDT
kernel-desktop-3.8.13.4-1.mga3-1-1.mga3.x86_64 Thu 11 Jul 2013 07:24:20 PM CDT
lib64evview3_3-3.7.1-2.1.mga3.x86_64          Thu 11 Jul 2013 07:24:04 PM CDT
lib64evdocument3_4-3.7.1-2.1.mga3.x86_64      Thu 11 Jul 2013 07:24:03 PM CDT
google-chrome-stable-28.0.1500.71-209842.x86_64 Fri 05 Jul 2013 06:42:02 PM CDT
lsb-lib64-4.1-15.mga3.x86_64                  Fri 05 Jul 2013 06:41:44 PM CDT
libosmesa8-9.1.3-1.1.mga3.i586                Thu 04 Jul 2013 05:18:57 PM CDT
libmesagl1-9.1.3-1.1.mga3.i586                Thu 04 Jul 2013 05:18:56 PM CDT
libavahi-client3-0.6.31-2.3.mga3.i586         Thu 04 Jul 2013 05:18:56 PM CDT
libxxf86vm1-1.1.3-1.mga3.i586                 Thu 04 Jul 2013 05:18:55 PM CDT
libglapi0-9.1.3-1.1.mga3.i586                 Thu 04 Jul 2013 05:18:55 PM CDT
libavahi-common3-0.6.31-2.3.mga3.i586         Thu 04 Jul 2013 05:18:55 PM CDT
[xxxxxx@localhost ~]$
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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby doktor5000 » Jul 23rd, '13, 21:17

You can try with kernel boot option xdriver=intel or use vesa driver temporarily as described in https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Err ... rd_drivers
But i'd suggest opening up a bugreport, after searching if it hasn't been reported yet already: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/How_to_report_a_bug_properly
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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby beagle10 » Jul 23rd, '13, 21:39

Thank you for looking into the problem.
For now, I am managing by booting 3.8.13 from grub loader.

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Re: [Solved]: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby doktor5000 » Jul 23rd, '13, 21:47

So did you create a bugreport for the kernel update?
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Re: [Solved]: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby beagle10 » Jul 23rd, '13, 23:48

I don't have technical know-how to file a bug report.

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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby doktor5000 » Jul 24th, '13, 21:16

You don't need technical know-how to file it.
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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby beagle10 » Jul 25th, '13, 04:24

OK; submitted bug report.

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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby doktor5000 » Jul 26th, '13, 01:08

For completeness's sake and also to allow others to follow up on that bug report, please also post the link to it here in the thread, thanks.
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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby marja » Jul 26th, '13, 13:59

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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby tpenya » Jul 28th, '13, 23:16

I have a similar problem: I only can boot with kernel 3.18.3, but not with 3.18.3.4; it stalls at the splash boot image with no bubbles. I can boot with the latest only if I disable ACPI from the GRUB2 menu, but then the X don't start because de NVIDIA driver fails to load. If there's any further information I could provide please let me know. I've seen some other complaints on this regard in this forum, as in viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5568.
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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby jiml8 » Jul 29th, '13, 03:32

Obvious choice here is to disable boot splash so you can see the console messages on the screen and learn where it is hanging.

FWIW, I am booting 3.8.13.4-desktop-1.mga3 on a Phenom-II with Nvidia graphics driver 319.17 downloaded and installed from the Nvidia website, and using legacy grub (not grub2). No problems.
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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby allezstade » Jul 29th, '13, 07:19

As mentioned elsewhere I have the very same problem with a Thinkpad W520 machine. Yesterday, I decided to try to remove the latest kernel in order to be able to use VirtualBox (The last update (vb kernel) broke virtualbox as I still boot the old kernel). Just to be safe, I decided to clone my disk before any modification and downloaded the latest clonezilla distribution. The CD booted fine the first time and after I was unable to reboot it for a while (Infact until I added ACPI=NO to the boot options but I'm not sure it was a valid stanza).The whole thing freezing apparently at various stages but while waiting for /dev to be populated.
I cannot do the same with mageia because as soon as the splash screen is displayed, the system freezes and the esc key does nothing : the only way to get out is to hold down the power button until the power is switched off.
The hardware uses an NVidia card with the optimus thing disabled by bios : the system always uses the NVidia device instead of the intel one on the main board. This was not tolerated by windows 8 (that I removed to switch back to Win 7 for usability reasons).
Just let me know if I can be of some help in this area. I don't have access to to thinkpad at work but can do things when at home.
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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby chard » Jul 29th, '13, 18:43

Sounds like our problems are extremely similar (in that I am also stuck without the ability to use virtualbox). I tried the various boot option suggested in the addenda, but specifying xdriver=intel or xdriver=nvidia gets to the screen with one bubble above the cauldron, then sits for a while before dumping me into a non-responsive debug shell. xdriver=nouveau just goes to the black screen.

My laptop is the Dell XPS 15z, with i7 processor and dual (intel + nvidia) graphics. For everything other than virtualbox, I have been able to get by with booting to the older kernel.
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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby tpenya » Jul 30th, '13, 06:37

It's curious I also have a very similar laptop as allezstade: Thinkpad W530, and as he reports with Clonezilla, it happens the same to me as well trying to boot the latest GParted.
On the other hand, I followed the advise of jiml8 and disabled boot splash. The latest thing I see is "ACPI: Lid Switch [LID]". I tried blacklisting the button module of ACPI and I see two lesser lines, ending in "dracut: Starting plymouth daemon".
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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby wintpe » Jul 30th, '13, 10:15

can you boot in safe mode

safemode uses text only so it may be easier to see the point at which it develops a problem.

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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby allezstade » Jul 30th, '13, 12:14

I've tried safe mode already and ir has exactly the same problem. I didn't thought however to get rid of the splash screen. I'll change the parameters of my grub as soon as I can and try to see where the system freezes.
Thanks for suggestion.
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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby allezstade » Jul 30th, '13, 17:08

More Info :

I finally got rid of the splash screen. When booting the 'uptodate' kernel. the system freezes after having displayed input: Lid Switch ...
Then I tried failsafe mode. The process is a little bit more verbose and here are lines ACPI: Lid Switch then the input: Lid Switch one and then follows an ACPI: Power Button [PWRN] which is the very last one displayed. After that the system freezes, no disk activity (led off, no seek noise) and that's all.

Thanks for helping.

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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby tpenya » Jul 30th, '13, 17:17

Just in case someone thinks about it: I already tried blacklisting the button module of ACPI, as I report a few posts above.
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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby allezstade » Jul 30th, '13, 17:43

By the way, tpenya, what are your bios settings regarding the NVidia card : Discrete or Optimus ?
I wonder if I can try to boot in basic (intel chip mode)

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Re: Problem with last two Mageia updates

Postby tpenya » Jul 30th, '13, 17:51

I had to set up discrete in order to my external monitor to work with the docking station. I wouldn't say that would make any difference for our issue, but definitely is worth trying. Please let us know if you try. I you haven't, I'll do it after work and will let you know.
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