Upgrading from Mandriva 2010/2

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Upgrading from Mandriva 2010/2

Postby eldiener » Oct 22nd, '12, 01:50

I am running Mandriva 2010/2. I attempted to upgrade to Mandriva 2011 only to find that the installation completely hung on my system, no matter what I did. I then heard about Mageia. Is it possible to upgrade my Mandriva 2010/2 system to Mageia 2 using the installation DVD ?
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Re: Upgrading from Mandriva 2010/2

Postby wobo » Oct 22nd, '12, 01:54

The recommended way is to upgrade first to Mageia 1 and then to Mageia 2. The direct way may work but I would only try if I had too much time :)
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Re: Upgrading from Mandriva 2010/2

Postby Ken-Bergen » Oct 22nd, '12, 05:19

If it was me and I had a separate /home partition I'd simply install Mageia2 formatting / and keeping /home.
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Re: Upgrading from Mandriva 2010/2

Postby eldiener » Oct 23rd, '12, 04:21

wobo wrote:The recommended way is to upgrade first to Mageia 1 and then to Mageia 2. The direct way may work but I would only try if I had too much time :)


Are you saying that Mageia 1 recognizes Mandriva 2010/2 as un upgradable distro but Mageia 2 does not ?
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Re: Upgrading from Mandriva 2010/2

Postby eldiener » Oct 23rd, '12, 04:22

Ken-Bergen wrote:If it was me and I had a separate /home partition I'd simply install Mageia2 formatting / and keeping /home.


I do have a separate /home partition, and will try your suggestion if there is no direct upgrade path.
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Re: Upgrading from Mandriva 2010/2

Postby filip » Oct 23rd, '12, 07:19

eldiener wrote:Are you saying that Mageia 1 recognizes Mandriva 2010/2 as un upgradable distro but Mageia 2 does not ?
It's not officially supported. Way too much QA work.
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Re: Upgrading from Mandriva 2010/2

Postby magfan » Oct 24th, '12, 12:21

eldiener wrote:
Ken-Bergen wrote:If it was me and I had a separate /home partition I'd simply install Mageia2 formatting / and keeping /home.


I do have a separate /home partition, and will try your suggestion if there is no direct upgrade path.


If you already tried to upgrade to Mandriva 2011 your system is most likely already mixed up a bit. Believe me, formatting / and keeping /home is the cleanest, fastet and safest way. I did not have that chance with two different workstations and after upgrading from Mandriva 2010.2 -> Mageia 1 -> Mageia 2 I ended up with a lot of troubles. Thanks to this support forum I could solve those issues. But it was a hard way though.
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Re: Upgrading from Mandriva 2010/2

Postby eldiener » Oct 26th, '12, 08:15

magfan wrote:
eldiener wrote:
Ken-Bergen wrote:If it was me and I had a separate /home partition I'd simply install Mageia2 formatting / and keeping /home.


I do have a separate /home partition, and will try your suggestion if there is no direct upgrade path.


If you already tried to upgrade to Mandriva 2011 your system is most likely already mixed up a bit. Believe me, formatting / and keeping /home is the cleanest, fastet and safest way. I did not have that chance with two different workstations and after upgrading from Mandriva 2010.2 -> Mageia 1 -> Mageia 2 I ended up with a lot of troubles. Thanks to this support forum I could solve those issues. But it was a hard way though.


Nothing is messed up as far as Mandriva is concerned. My attempts to upgrade from Mandriva 2010.2 to Mandriva 2011 really was met by an installation which completely freezes before even a single installation screen showed.

That is why I became interested in Mageia as an upgrade path. When someone writes software so bad ( I am a developer myself ) that not even the beginning screen for an upgrade will show up, I feel it is time for a change.

But it does not sound like Mageia provides any upgrade from Mandriva 2010.2, even though my understanding is that it was originally a fork of Mandriva 2010. That is OK, but I wanted to ask anyway. I will install Mageia separately and see how it goes. It has to be better than a distro whose installation goes nowhere at all, as happened to me with Mandriva 2011.
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Re: Upgrading from Mandriva 2010/2

Postby filip » Oct 26th, '12, 11:10

eldiener wrote:But it does not sound like Mageia provides any upgrade from Mandriva 2010.2...
It does. See first reply once more. Or migrate web page.
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Re: Upgrading from Mandriva 2010/2

Postby magfan » Oct 26th, '12, 22:07

filip wrote:
eldiener wrote:But it does not sound like Mageia provides any upgrade from Mandriva 2010.2...
It does. See first reply once more. Or migrate web page.


Yes, it does. And it worked on two laptops for me (Sony Vaio, FSC Celsius). That is why I dared to try it on two special workstations (Fujitsu CELSIUS) with a lot of additional hardware (LTO SAS TapeLibrary, Adaptec SCSI RAID, LSI SAS RAID, Quad-Port ethernet cards, nvidia Quadro cards). Also these workstations use Samba, NFS, CIFS and they have attached NAS and DAS systems. They were even challenging for a completely new installation because the built in LSI hardware RAID was not detected automatically and even later I had to tweak initrd with dracut to include all required drivers. But anyway. I did not have any problems since then once Mageia was up and running.

Just to come to a conclusion: if you have a more or less standard system I think you can give it a try - but don' forget your backup. Upgrade to Mageia 1, install all the latest updates, then continue to upgrade to Mageia 2. And do not remove "orphans" during the upgrade process! Most likely they will not use much space on your system. But you could accidentally remove some required packages.
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Re: Upgrading from Mandriva 2010/2

Postby eldiener » Oct 27th, '12, 02:28

filip wrote:
eldiener wrote:But it does not sound like Mageia provides any upgrade from Mandriva 2010.2...
It does. See first reply once more. Or migrate web page.


Aha ! That is the link for which I was looking. I will follow that path. Thank you !
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Re: Upgrading from Mandriva 2010/2

Postby eldiener » Oct 28th, '12, 12:52

filip wrote:
eldiener wrote:But it does not sound like Mageia provides any upgrade from Mandriva 2010.2...
It does. See first reply once more. Or migrate web page.


I tried upgrading from the Mageia 1 DVD. I first back up my Mandriva partitions. I boot from the DVD. Everything looks fine. I choose Upgrade. It finds my Mandriva distro. But whille installing new packages eventually a screen pops up saying that some conflict occurred and it no longer attempts to install any more packages. Whoops ! So I reboot, restore my Mandriva partitions and reboot into Mandriva 2010.2.

I then decide to give it another try using the upgrading inline technique using mgaonline. Mandriva installs mgaonline fine. But then nothing happens. I neither see mgaonline in my menu system nor is 'mgaonline' recognized as a command. So I reboot. Now I get a system try icon for mgaonline but no matter what i do it will not do anything. Instead it gives me a message about :"Maintenance has ended etc." and will not do anything further.
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Re: Upgrading from Mandriva 2010/2

Postby doktor5000 » Oct 28th, '12, 17:26

Upgrade depends on how "clean" your Mandriva installation is, maybe you had backports or other 3rd party packages installed?
Nevertheless you can still try the third method: https://www.mageia.org/en/1/migrate/#urpmi

If there are errors, please post the full output here, and please use code tags as explained in ftp://ftp.mandrivauser.de/rpm/rpm/extra ... e_tags.ogv
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