one day logged on and there was no sound

[randogrulz]

and hasn't been any for a few weeks. Didn't do anything different it just decided to quite.

[stevofromftw]

welcome to sound hell.
if your using kde check phonon. System settings / multimedia
is it muted in alsa mixer open konsole and type alsamixer.

[randogrulz]

when i do the phonon i get this message


KDE detected that one or more internal sound devices were removed.
Do you want KDE to permanently forget about these devices?
This is the list of devices KDE thinks can be removed:
Capture: SB Live! 5.1 (rev.7, serial:0x80641102) (ADC Capture/Standard PCM Playback)
Capture: SB Live! 5.1 (rev.7, serial:0x80641102) (Mic Capture)
Capture: SB Live! 5.1 (rev.7, serial:0x80641102) (Multichannel Capture/PT Playback)
Output: SB Live! 5.1 (rev.7, serial:0x80641102) (ADC Capture/Standard PCM Playback)
Output: SB Live! 5.1 (rev.7, serial:0x80641102) (Multichannel Capture/PT Playback)
Output: SB Live! 5.1 (rev.7, serial:0x80641102) (Multichannel Playback)

[stevofromftw]

just click no and close it close all programs so. So your only using 1 sound device at a time, I m thinking is my problem , to see if it works . then with every thing closed check phonon is using the right sound card and it isnt muted in alsamixer.
Then open what ever you want to play.

[randogrulz]

here is what i got on the alsamixer

/proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Architecture Driver Version 1.0.23.\

/proc/asound/cards
0{Live }: EMU10K1 - SB Live! 5.1
SB Live! 5.1 (rev.7, serial:0x80641102) at 0xec00, irq 18


alsamixer
file:///home/randy/market/aalsamixer.png


│
│ ┌──┐ │
│ │ │ │
│ │▒▒│ │
│ │▒▒│ │
│ │▒▒│ │
│ │▒▒│ │
│ ┌─────── /proc/asound/devices ───────┐ │
│ │ 1: : sequencer │ │
│ │ 2: [ 0- 0]: hardware dependent │ │
│ │ 3: [ 0- 0]: raw midi │ │
│ │ 4: [ 0- 3]: digital audio playback│ │
│ │ 5: [ 0- 2]: digital audio playback│ │
│ │ 6: [ 0- 2]: digital audio capture │ │
│ │ 7: [ 0- 1]: digital audio capture │ │
│ │ 8: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback│ │
│ │ 9: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture │ │
│ │ 10: [ 0] : control │ │
│ │ 33: : timer │ │
│ └────────────────────────────────────┘ │
│ │▒▒│ │
│ │▒▒│ │
│ │▒▒│ │
│

/proc/asound/oss/devices ┐ │
│ │ 0: [0- 0]: mixer │ │
│ │ 1: : sequencer │ │
│ │ 2: [0- 0]: raw midi │ │
│ │ 3: [0- 0]: digital audio│ │
│ │ 4: [0- 0]: digital audio│ │
│ │ 8: : sequencer │ │
│ │ 9: [0- 0]: raw midi │ │
│ │ 12: [0- 1]: digital audio

┌

G0: system timer : 1000.000us (10000000 ticks)│ F2: System information │
│ View: F3:[Playback] F4: Capture F5: All │C0-0: EMU10K1 timer : 20.833us (1024 ticks) │ F6: Select sound card │
│ Item: Master │P0-0-0: PCM playback 0-0-0 : SLAVE │ Esc: Exit │
│ │P0-0-1: PCM capture 0-0-1 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-2: PCM playback 0-0-2 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-4: PCM playback 0-0-4 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-6: PCM playback 0-0-6 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-8: PCM playback 0-0-8 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-10: PCM playback 0-0-10 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-12: PCM playback 0-0-12 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-14: PCM playback 0-0-14 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-16: PCM playback 0-0-16 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-18: PCM playback 0-0-18 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-20: PCM playback 0-0-20 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-22: PCM playback 0-0-22 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-24: PCM playback 0-0-24 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-26: PCM playback 0-0-26 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-28: PCM playback 0-0-28 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-30: PCM playback 0-0-30 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-32: PCM playback 0-0-32 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-34: PCM playback 0-0-34 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-36: PCM playback 0-0-36 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-38: PCM playback 0-0-38 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-40: PCM playback 0-0-40 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-42: PCM playback 0-0-42 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-44: PCM playback 0-0-44 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-46: PCM playback 0-0-46 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-48: PCM playback 0-0-48 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-50: PCM playback 0-0-50 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-52: PCM playback 0-0-52 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-54: PCM playback 0-0-54 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-56: PCM playback 0-0-56 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-58: PCM playback 0-0-58 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-60: PCM playback 0-0-60 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-0-62: PCM playback 0-0-62 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-1-1: PCM capture 0-1-1 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-2-0: PCM playback 0-2-0 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-2-1: PCM capture 0-2-1 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-2-2: PCM playback 0-2-2 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-2-4: PCM playback 0-2-4 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-2-6: PCM playback 0-2-6 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-2-8: PCM playback 0-2-8 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-2-10: PCM playback 0-2-10 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-2-12: PCM playback 0-2-12 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-2-14: PCM playback 0-2-14 : SLAVE │ │
│ │P0-3-0: PCM playback 0-3-0 : SLAVE



────────────────────────────── /proc/asound/pcm ──────────────────────────────┐ │
│ │00-00: emu10k1 : ADC Capture/Standard PCM Playback : playback 32 : capture 1 │ │
│ │00-01: emu10k1 mic : Mic Capture : capture 1 │ │
│ │00-02: emu10k1 efx : Multichannel Capture/PT Playback : playback 8 : capture 1│ │
│ │00-03: emu10k1 : Multichannel Playback : playback 1 │

[fanisatt]

I have the EMU10k1 (Sound Blaster Live 16bit) soundcard.
I have sound but I can't normally see any midi devides.
It seems that the Alsa configuration is not ok because, I have to use modprobe command to insert the appropriate kernel modules .
After I did it then , I could see the midi devices and I could load soundfonts with asfxload (awesfx package) normally.
The problem is that, every time after boot I have to use modprobe command.
Is there any help or update ?
Thanks

[isadora]

[doktor5000]

After I did it then , I could see the midi devices and I could load soundfonts with asfxload (awesfx package) normally.
The problem is that, every time after boot I have to use modprobe command.
Is there any help or update ?

Well, you can just put them in /etc/modprobe.conf or /etc/modprobe.preload if you want them to be loaded at every startup
From where should the system know to load some arbitrary kernel modules? It can't read your mind (well, not yet)

[fanisatt]

Thanks doktor, I will try this.
I love Linux and I keep a multi boot system with 3 differenent Linux distributions. Sound Blaster Live is an old and good soundcard especially with midi and soundfonts. No delay !
There was no midi problem with the other Linux OSs especially with the above soundcard. Somehow the other distros knew......but, Iam not experienced to understand these details.
I didn't know anything about modprobe and snd modules because the soundcard just worked fine. The only thing I had to to do is to load the awesfx package and to use the asfxload command to load soundfonts of my choise.
Generally I can't understand the sound configuration in Linux. Pulse Audio, Alsa, Oss and some other subsystems I can't remember now are probably too much....
I read somewhere that Pulse Audio "doesn't like" Alsa and vice-versa.... I hope that things may be simpler to the future.

[doktor5000]

Actually Pulseaudio makes things simpler, it's an abstraction/mixer layer above Alsa, which provides hardware control and kernel drivers.
Maybe you want to have a look at http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/FAQ and maybe the "Design" paragraph of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio