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Hello.

I launched "urpme --auto-orphans", which deleted about 140 packages, and now I don't get the users login screen on booting. Do you know what package is responsible for this? Another thing I notice is that, on another computer, I have both task-kde4-4.11.4-1.mga4.noarch and task-kde4-4.12.5-1.mga4.noarch, while on this one, I just have task-kde4-4.11.4-1.mga4.noarch .

You don't have the login screen, but can you log in? ... does it auto log in? Or you're logged out?

Thank you very much for your quick answer. No, I can't login, except in command line, choosing safe mode, but then it seems I don't have internet. "ping yahoo.fr" gives "unknown host", for instance.

Can you install task-kde4-4.12.5-1.mga4.noarch from a terminal? This is what is needed.

Thank you very much. I logged in through ssh, but I get this:

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# ping fiable.biz
PING fiable.biz (199.16.128.52) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from otos.planethoster.net (199.16.128.52): icmp_seq=1 ttl=45 time=291 ms
^C
# urpmi  task-kde4-4.12.5-1.mga4
No package named task-kde4-4.12.5-1.mga4

So I have internet, but urpmi can't find this package...

Go to prompt mode (tty) with networking by adding "systemd.unit=multi-user.target" (no appostrophes) in the linux line of your grub menu (press 'e' at grub menu, arrow down to linux line and add, then F10 to boot).
At prompt, log in.
Then type the following

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mv ~/.kde ~/.kdeold

Reboot. You will start with new kde desktop. Modify to your liking.

ps: does you grub linux line contain 'nokmsboot' and vmlinuz and initrd is vmlinuz-desktop and initrd-desktop.img?
(sigh) why, mageia, why?
and auto-orphan shouldn't remove all older kernels, it should leave one other older kernel.

If above won't work, again boot to prompt with networking (as above)
and this time log in as root. then install kde again

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# urpmi task-kde

Note: do not auto-orphan when there's new kde package installed and you have not rebooted.
To be sure, only auto-orphan when there's no new packages to install when booted.

Thank you very much. When I boot, Grub appears very quickly, and pressing "e" has no effect. I'm not sure what the "grub menu" is: just after this I have the choice between "Mageia 4", "Mageia 4 (safe mode)", "desktop 3.12.8-2.mga4" etc.. Pressing "e" has no more effect.

FiableDotBiz wrote:Thank you very much. When I boot, Grub appears very quickly, and pressing "e" has no effect. I'm not sure what the "grub menu" is: just after this I have the choice between "Mageia 4", "Mageia 4 (safe mode)", "desktop 3.12.8-2.mga4" etc.. Pressing "e" has no more effect.

When you turn on the computer, keep pressing (tapping is more accurate, wiki's word is 'press', but keep tapping) the 'shift' key.
A grub menu will appear. the press 'e' button.

Ah...you might be using grub leagcy (sigh). Can someone here help so Fiable can boot into tty with network?

Just remember after going to prompt (with networking), reinstall task-kde.

Good luck.

ps: I might want to disappear for a while again.

I see you have...

Thank you very much. I logged in through ssh, but I get this:

so log in again and this time

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# urpmi task-kde

not "# urpmi task-kde4-4.12.5-1.mga4"
Do that. I think you'll be fine after reboot.
Good luck, Cheers.

Thank you again. I had tried this, and got

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# urpmi task-kde
The following package cannot be installed because it depends on packages
that are older than the installed ones:
task-kde4-4.11.4-1.mga4
Continue installation anyway? (Y/n) y
While some packages may have been installed, there were failures.
The following package cannot be installed because it depends on packages
that are older than the installed ones:
task-kde4-4.11.4-1.mga4
Continue installation anyway?
[root@Dell-graphist etc]#

The 2nd copy of the question is not a real question: I'm not given any opportunity to answer.

Okay, understand but sorry, here I am also lost.
All I can suggst and I am not sure if this will work, is to use force

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# urpmi --force task-kde

Can somebody else help or have another idea?
Meantime, I think there's no harm trying while waiting for others.

Good luck.

[edit] - check with wiki and got this
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Upgrading_with_urpmi

--allow-force

Allow urpmi to ask user to continue installation using no dependencies checking or forced installation due to error. By default urpmi exit immediately in such case.
Using the --allow-force switch works better, since the dependencies can get funny with textar and plf rpms that might have a newer numbering than the 9.2 versions installing

meaning you should be better off using

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 # urpmi --allow-force task-kde

[quote="FiableDotBiz"]Thank you again. I had tried this, and got

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# urpmi task-kde
The following package cannot be installed because it depends on packages
that are older than the installed ones:
task-kde4-4.11.4-1.mga4


That suggests that you are using the mirrorlist option and it has selected a faulty mirror on this occasion, but had selected a good mirror on some previous occasion. Hence you have some updates installed that are not available on the faulty mirror.
To check enter:

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urpmq --list-url

You should probably remove all of your sources and select a specific mirror.
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installing_a ... dia_Mirror

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urpmi.removemedia -a
urpmi.addmedia --distrib http http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/distrib/4/x86_64/

If you are using a 32 bit system replace 'x86_64' with 'i586' in the second command. You can change the mirror used in my example to an alternative reliable mirror, if you wish.

After you have the sources setup properly execute:

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urpmi --auto-update
urpmi task-kde4

For future reference read this, if you are ever again tempted to run 'urpme --auto-orphans'
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Removing_packages#Warning

Jim

Yes, it's task-kde4 not task-kde
My bad. Very sorry.
Hope you fix it.

Guys, he already has task-kde4 installed per the initial post. urpmi --auto-update will not bring back the removed packages, as it doesn't take Suggests on installed packages into account. Also for such dependency issues as shown --allow-force should not be suggested as good practice.

Best bet is

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rpm -e --nodeps task-kde4; urpmi task-kde4

once the repositories are configured properly.

The other thing is: you can simply install another small desktop environment, and switch to another login manager (in case your current one isn't workin).

Thank you very much for your very quick and continuous help. Considering internet was cut (during 19 hours. We are in Mongolia...), and I could save the files through NFS, I eventually reinstall Mageia 4, keeping /home intact. I unfortunately forgot to save MariaDB databases...

Good to hear you've got Mageia back.
Take care. Enjoy.