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Administrator pasword no longer accepted after the upgrade to Mageia 4
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When logging into safe mode the system ask for the root password and accepts here my normal root password
what is also valid for the Mageia Control Center - but Control Center does not accept this password no more.

Also seems to have lost the ability to open a terminal window
I seem to be in a Gnome graphical environment - but looks incomplete
Can for example also not minimize Firefox when up....

Want to try for a reinstall, but when using the full system CDROM from Mageia, all the system does is booting
from the DVD and I'm back in same situation when system is up.

As mentioned - when I get into safe mode, system ask for a root password and accepts it normally.
Is there a way to solve the password issue from that point...?

Maybe it got switched somehow so that it currently expects your user password, did you try that?
To solve this, you could run draksec as root and, check what password is expected for MCC, change it to something else or none,
then save, and afterwards run it again and set it to what you expect.
But I guess this issue comes from the fact that upgrade is not complete, maybe you're missing some bits for https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_4_Rel ... entication

Also, how did you upgrade exactly? Which of the methods did you choose from https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_4_Rel ... m_Mageia_3

Hi Doctor
Got upgrade through mgaonline update tool notifying me of new release and normally accessed, run and finished all.... / said it was successfull.
Prblem is that I don't find no option to open a terminal anywhere....
Can I run from failsave as root...?
Also what is at that point to be typed as command to eg. open 'draksec' ..?
and ik done that way, do I than see what password is there now // and can I just overwrite - or need to do some special to get it changed...?

Hi Doctor
was able to open a terminal and typed 'draksec' - than got a tool and looked into the several options;
all - like eg. 'system' shows access as 'default'...?

Fred01 wrote:Hi Doctor
Got upgrade through mgaonline update tool notifying me of new release and normally accessed, run and finished all.... / said it was successfull.
Prblem is that I don't find no option to open a terminal anywhere....
Can I run from failsave as root...?

Maybe you want to complete the upgrade from failsafe mode, or at least install some terminal or some other minimal desktop environment. But let's try something else, when you press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, can you select any other desktop session? Check https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Display_Mana ... _Selection

Fred01 wrote:Also what is at that point to be typed as command to eg. open 'draksec' ..?

When you are logged in as root just

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draksec

Sadly it only works when an Xserver is running, so cannot be run from failsafe mode.
But you can change the settings manually via editing the polkit policy which draksec changes:
/etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-draksec.rules

As an example, I've changed the update applet to not require any password:

[doktor5000@Mageia3 ~]$ sudo cat /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-draksec.rules
// This file is written by draksec. Do not edit.
var drakToolAuth = function(tool){switch (tool){
case 'drakrpm-update': return polkit.Result.YES;

}return polkit.Result.NOT_HANDLED;};

Fred01 wrote:and ik done that way, do I than see what password is there now // and can I just overwrite - or need to do some special to get it changed...?

No you cannot see the password itself in plaintext if that's your question.

Hi Doctor,

THANKS; will try the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, and hopefully select any other desktop session - want to use KDE anyway....

Concerning draksec -- I've been able to open a terminal and when changing to root / it accepted my password -- next typed dracsec
and the tool came up -- it's a graphical tool -- with drop down menu of choices --- with all shown as 'default' currently....

Now I'm just guessing, but should at here one of the options going to be placed to for example 'no password'' ..? - or anything else...?
Only in that case would not know which one of the options to change as the dracsec gui shows several options as ''system'' and so on....

Also wonder -- as you mentioned I might have a non-finished install -- how to force the system to rerun any such install // or run anything
to check - what's missing and repair...?

THANKS

doktor5000 wrote:To solve this, you could run draksec as root and, check what password is expected for MCC, change it to something else or none,
then save, and afterwards run it again and set it to what you expect.

Ahh, I see - draksec only has entries for all the tools inside MCC, but not for MCC itself :/
But you can put an entry inside /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-draksec.rules to launch it without password in the meantime.

But as you are able to run a terminal, you could try to complete the upgrade.
Look at the last bullet of https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_4_Rel ... _.28CLI.29

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urpmi --replacefiles --auto-update --auto

And please show the output here.

Hi Docter

I've run the command (urpmi --replacefiles --auto-update --auto ) and got some updates on Firefox and so nothing special...
Than run gedit /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-draksec.rules -- and opened file 51-draksec.rules
this file seems empty / absolutely no entry in there at all....
What should I enter to ensure the MCC woulf not ask for a password...?

Kind RGDS

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// This file is written by draksec. Do not edit.
var drakToolAuth = function(tool){switch (tool){
case 'drakconf': return polkit.Result.YES;

}return polkit.Result.NOT_HANDLED;};

Permissions should be 644 and it should belong to root:root:

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[doktor5000@Mageia3 ~]$ sudo ls -al /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-draksec.rules
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 228 Feb  7 11:19 /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-draksec.rules

Although if you reboot, it should be working now. Please also show the output of

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urpmi --auto-update

Hi Doctor

Have opened Dracsec andpasted your code and saved // than in terminal typed

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""sudo ls -al /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-draksec.rules""

followed by

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""-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 228 Feb  7 11:19 /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-draksec.rules""
but system comes back with
"bash: -rw-r--r--: command not found"

However can now open MCC - does not ask for password..!

Have also run ""urpmi --auto-update""
Output below:

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[fred@localhost ~]$ su
Password:
[root@localhost fred]# urpmi --auto-update
medium "Core Release" is up-to-date
medium "Core Updates" is up-to-date
medium "Nonfree Release" is up-to-date
medium "Nonfree Updates" is up-to-date
medium "Tainted Release" is up-to-date
medium "Tainted Updates" is up-to-date
Packages are up to date
[root@localhost fred]#

Fred01 wrote:Hi Doctor

Have opened Dracsec andpasted your code and saved // than in terminal typed

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""sudo ls -al /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-draksec.rules""

That was only meant to show you the permissions of that file

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ls -al /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-draksec.rules

as root is the command to do that, I've prepended it by sudo as I've run that command as user

Fred01 wrote:followed by

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""-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 228 Feb  7 11:19 /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-draksec.rules""
but system comes back with
"bash: -rw-r--r--: command not found"

Yep, as mentioned, that's no command, the output of above mentioned ls -al.
It means readwrite permissions for root, read for group and read for others.
Check e.g. http://www.linux.org/threads/file-permi ... hmod.4094/


The urpmi --auto-update output suggests that your system is up-to-date.
Can you please show the output of

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rpm -qa | grep -c -e mga2 -e mga3

and

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rpm -qa | grep -c mga4

What other open issues are there since the upgrade except for the issue with the root password for MCC?

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[fred@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa | grep -c -e mga2 -e mga3
146
[fred@localhost ~]$
========================================
fred@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa | grep -c mga4
2217
[fred@localhost ~]$
=========================================

Another point is that I don't see any applet showing that upgrades are available.

I do see only shortly a warning at the bottom of the screen that shows there are new updates.
That warning disapears and than there's no other indication left anywhere.
So if you miss the warning / you are not alerted on new updates being available.
Do now just update through MCC.

I'm by the way on Gnome - have looked in MCC, but no choice to change to KSD is available /
seems the system - after upgrade lost ability to chance to KSD.

Hmmm, the problem with the applet could probably be the same issue as for drakconf not starting.
You could also workaround this via draksec -> Software Management -> Mageia Updates.
But it would probably be better to find the root cause. I'll poke around and see if we can get some proper troubleshooting instructions with that issue.
For now please show the output of

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ps aux | grep polkit
rpm -qa | grep polkit | sort

For your issue regarding the change of desktop environment (at least I'm assuming this is what you mean by KSD)
you should have a look at viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6945
That is, if you have KDE or some other desktop environment already installed and only want to switch.
That's not done in MCC, but in the login manager, see above linked thread. If you have further questions about that,
and as a general hint and golden rule: Please only one problem per thread

Hi Doctor

Thanks for remind about one topic at the time - true.
Still want to mention that I've looked at the provided links - but seems not much use as when checking MCC /Boot mngr. it clearly shows
tham only Gnome and XDM is available as choice -- not KDE...... // so suppose it was ''left out'' during install -- thought you wanted to know
as also this might be an update issue.... (only wonder how to resolve without doing installation all over again...)

Concerning you request - please find output below here below:

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[fred@localhost ~]$ su
Password:
[root@localhost fred]# ps aux | grep polkit
polkitd    790  0.1  0.7  62152 11028 ?        Ssl  17:58   0:01 /usr/lib/polkit-1/polkitd --no-debug
root      5024  0.0  0.0   6404   848 pts/0    S+   18:19   0:00 grep --color polkit
[root@localhost fred]#

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[root@localhost fred]# rpm -qa | grep polkit | sort
libmate-polkit1_0-1.6.1-2.mga4
libpolkit-gir1.0-0.112-2.mga4
libpolkit-qt-agent-1_1-0.103.0-3.mga4
libpolkit-qt-core-1_1-0.103.0-3.mga4
libpolkit1_0-0.112-2.mga4
mate-polkit-1.6.1-2.mga4
polkit-0.112-2.mga4
polkit-desktop-policy-0.112-2.mga4
polkit-kde-agent-1-0.99.0-6.mga4
[root@localhost fred]#

Fred01 wrote:Hi Doctor

Thanks for remind about one topic at the time - true.
Still want to mention that I've looked at the provided links - but seems not much use as when checking MCC /Boot mngr. it clearly shows
tham only Gnome and XDM is available as choice -- not KDE...... // so suppose it was ''left out'' during install -- thought you wanted to know
as also this might be an update issue.... (only wonder how to resolve without doing installation all over again...)

Seems you're confusing desktop environment (like GNOME, KDE) with display manager (like GDM, XDM, KDM, LXDM).
So if you're missing KDM, then simply install it, then switch to it via drakedm. Best open a new thread if that doesn't answer your question.

Fred01 wrote:

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[fred@localhost ~]$ su
Password:
[root@localhost fred]# ps aux | grep polkit
polkitd    790  0.1  0.7  62152 11028 ?        Ssl  17:58   0:01 /usr/lib/polkit-1/polkitd --no-debug
root      5024  0.0  0.0   6404   848 pts/0    S+   18:19   0:00 grep --color polkit
[root@localhost fred]#

Looks OK, but you're missing the authentication agent for your user, which asks for the password. See here:

[doktor5000@Mageia3 ~]$ ps -ef | grep polkit
500 5325 1 0 Feb08 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib64/kde4/libexec/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1
500 19877 19758 0 20:02 pts/1 00:00:00 grep --color polkit
polkitd 30835 1 0 Feb07 ? 00:00:06 /usr/lib/polkit-1/polkitd --no-debug
[doktor5000@Mageia3 ~]$ rpm -qf /usr/lib64/kde4/libexec/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1
polkit-kde-agent-1-0.99.0-6.mga4

You have that package installed, but the agent didn't start. Could be related to the display manager you're using.
Please try to switch to KDM and then try again.

FWIW, what desktop session do you select when you login to Mageia?

Ho Doctor,

I have auto logon / and a Gnome desktop environment -- ie. the one with 'Activities' on left hand side to of screen and
when you open a second application it open on top of the first. / When you minimize the application you can again open it when clicking 'activities'
and next the application than shown in small on the screen - it than reopens. // Also shows when more than one open those as small on right hand side
of screen, like 'pages'... /// so believe its Gnome display environment (GDM)...

As in MCC no KDM is available as choice only GDM + XDM.....

To get KDM as choice and active desktop environment, suppose I need to install it - / can this be done through the GUI installer // what should I install...?

Fred01 wrote:As in MCC no KDM is available as choice only GDM + XDM.....

To get KDM as choice and active desktop environment, suppose I need to install it - / can this be done through the GUI installer // what should I install...?

I still sense a bit of confusion between desktop environment and display manager

You want to install kdm - either via https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Software_man ... e_software
-> make sure to set the filter to all packages and then search for kdm and install it, then switch to it via http://doc.mageia.org/mcc/4/en/content/drakedm.html

If you want to try KDE, you need to install a bit more - in https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Software_man ... e_software
search for task-kde and install it, it will pull all dependencies for a full KDE, which you can select in your display manager of choice
before you login.

Hope that helps a bit

Hi Doctor
Have installed task-kde' and it installed along with about 575 other files re. kde.
Than I went to MCC- DM and now have choice avaiable for KDM (KDE display mngr) and clicked box, system asks to restart DM manager - clicked yes.
Came back with login screen (no choices there...) than went on and system comes up with Gnome as desktop environment again....
Have rebooted system twice to try - with checking MCC DM (which keep showing KDM as default now) - but system keeps coming back on Gnome...?

Sounds like a bug, probably the combination with auto-logon.
Please try to logout and follow the instructions here: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6945#p44592
You need to select/enter your username, only then a tiny button will appear to select the desktop session - please select KDE Plasma Workspace there.

Does that work?

Hi Doctor,
Done it little different...
Have within MCC login manager changed from user logon to auto logon / and system gave possibility to make choice to change from Gnome to KDE
and that worked -- system now come up without logon onto KDM as Misplay Environment....

Okay, what about your password issue?

Hi Doctor
Password issue seems still to be solved after having applied your earlier solution -- the MCC remains popping up without asking for a password....
So as for that this thread is dealt with I suppose.....

Allow me one last question:
Now I'm successful on KDM as DM - can I remove through MCC / software mngr the task-Gnome - ie. have Gnome removed from the system...?

THANKS for support overall...
Kind RGDS
Fred

Hi Doctor,

Sorry - passwords seems still an issue -- just got the update applet and noticed when clicking it the system requires a password...
however when just hitting enter the system continues and the update window comes up - and all further acts normal as usual....

Please show the output as root of

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ps -ef | grep polkit
cat /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-draksec.rules

Hi doctor,

Have run the required command, but seems that access is denied on draksec.rules,
hence no output with 'cat' command /see below.

Also tried to get contents using command "ls -al " - but also no success....

Than tried to open file fil gedit command / file opened, but bontents hidden and
warning says I've no permissions // see also below.

Strangely enough the output below mentions about the ""org.gnome.SessionManager"",
but I'm on KDE with KDM now....?

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[fred@localhost ~]$ ps -ef | grep polkit
polkitd    832     1  0 18:57 ?        00:00:01 /usr/lib/polkit-1/polkitd --no-debug
fred      2571     1  0 18:58 ?        00:00:00 /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1
fred      5414  5375  0 19:24 pts/2    00:00:00 grep --color polkit
[fred@localhost ~]$ cat /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-draksec.rules
cat: /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-draksec.rules: Permission denied

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[fred@localhost ~]$ ls -al /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-draksec.rules
ls: cannot access /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-draksec.rules: Permission denied
[fred@localhost ~]$ draksec
Subroutine Gtk3::main redefined at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.18.1/Gtk3.pm line 296.

(draksec:5585): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkImage 0xa53f1c8 adjusted size vertical min 47 natural 47 must not decrease below min 48 natural 48

(draksec:5585): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkImage 0xa53f1c8 attempted to adjust its size allocation from -12,1 598x54 to 0,0 586x55. adjust_size_allocation must keep allocation inside original bounds
[fred@localhost ~]$ gedit /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/51-draksec.rules -- and opened file 51-draksec.rules

(gedit:5665): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

(gedit:5665): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

(gedit:5665): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

(gedit:5665): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

(gedit:5665): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

(gedit:5665): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

(gedit:5665): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

(gedit:5665): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

(gedit:5665): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

(gedit:5665): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[fred@localhost ~]$