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Mageia 1 (KDE) is locking up (other than mouse) fairly often

PostPosted: Oct 18th, '11, 12:15
by DiBosco
I have been running Mageia 1 for a couple of weeks or so on both desktop and laptop and am happy with its speed, looks etc. However, on my desktop I am havinga real problem where the system just stops responding other than the mouse still moving around the screen. Everything else dies. I've had a shell open with top running and can't see anything that particularly is hogging the resources.

This has happened twice today and both times I've had to hit the reset switch. A couple of times this has happened I've been able to do CTL -ALT-Backspace and recover relatively gracefully.

dosbox and Firefox while running Adobe Flash videos on you tube are the two apps that seem to be running when this happens.

Can anyone suggest a away of tracking down what is going wring here please?

Thanks.

Re: Mageia 1 (KDE) is locking up (other than mouse) fairly o

PostPosted: Oct 18th, '11, 13:05
by doktor5000
Could you please show the output of
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rpm -qa | grep -e flash -e nspluginwrapper | sort

Also please show the output of
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uname -a

Re: Mageia 1 (KDE) is locking up (other than mouse) fairly o

PostPosted: Oct 18th, '11, 13:12
by DiBosco
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rpm -qa | grep -e flash -e nspluginwrapper | sort
flash-plugin-10.3.183.10-release
kipi-plugins-flashexport-1.9.0-3.1.mga1


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uname -a
Linux localhost 2.6.38.8-server-6.mga #1 SMP Mon Sep 26 21:31:24 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

Re: Mageia 1 (KDE) is locking up (other than mouse) fairly o

PostPosted: Oct 18th, '11, 15:06
by doktor5000
You installed flash-plugin directly from Adobe? That's not the recommended way to install things,
you should always prefer distribution packages. We have flash-player-plugin packaged, maybe you
just need to enable non-free repositories (_release and _updates) then you'll remove your current flash-plugin
and install flash-player-plugin-11.0.1.152-1.mga1.nonfree which is also more up-to-date.

For further problems about Flashplayer, have a look in our MAQeia:
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=880

Re: Mageia 1 (KDE) is locking up (other than mouse) fairly o

PostPosted: Oct 18th, '11, 15:27
by DiBosco
I did and always have installed directly from the Adobe site. I do not believe it is the flash plugin that is at fault as the system grinds to a halt with dosbox (and only dosbox) running. I was really pointing out that the two programs that seem to affect me are dosbox and flash videos. I wouldn't be surprised if other things affect it in future. When it locks up you can see the HDD light briefly blinking with a constant frequency.

As a matter of interest, with flash plugin being proprietary what difference could that actually make?

Re: Mageia 1 (KDE) is locking up (other than mouse) fairly o

PostPosted: Oct 18th, '11, 16:04
by doktor5000
DiBosco wrote:As a matter of interest, with flash plugin being proprietary what difference could that actually make?


Automatic updates for security reasons (as flash player is a whole can-of-worms regarding security)
better integration into Mageia, automatic installation of all needed dependencies and installation at the right place, among others.

For the original problem, please show the output of
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lspcidrake -v
and tell what video driver you are using, which desktop environment and if you are using desktop effects or any other 3D desktop.

Re: Mageia 1 (KDE) is locking up (other than mouse) fairly o

PostPosted: Oct 18th, '11, 16:08
by DiBosco
Code: Select all
lspcidrake -v
xhci_hcd        : Vendor 1b21|Device 1042 [SERIAL_USB] (vendor:1b21 device:1042 subv:1043 subd:8488)
pata_acpi       : Marvell Technology Group Ltd.|Device 91a4 [STORAGE_IDE] (vendor:1b4b device:91a4) (rev: 12)
pata_acpi       : Marvell Technology Group Ltd.|Device 91a0 [STORAGE_IDE] (vendor:1b4b device:91a0 subv:1043 subd:83ba) (rev: 12)
r8169           : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.|RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [NETWORK_ETHERNET] (vendor:10ec device:8168 subv:1043 subd:8432) (rev: 06)
firewire_ohci   : VIA Technologies, Inc.|VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller [SERIAL_FIREWIRE] (vendor:1106 device:3044 subv:1043 subd:81fe) (rev: c0)
unknown         : Vendor 1b21|Device 1080 [BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:1b21 device:1080) (rev: 01)
Card:NVIDIA GeForce 6100 to GeForce 360: nVidia Corporation|G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] [DISPLAY_VGA] (vendor:10de device:0402 subv:1458 subd:3455) (rev: a1)
i2c_i801        : Intel Corporation|Cougar Point SMBus Controller [SERIAL_SMBUS] (vendor:8086 device:1c22 subv:1043 subd:844d) (rev: 05)
ahci            : Intel Corporation|Cougar Point 6 port SATA AHCI Controller [STORAGE_SATA] (vendor:8086 device:1c02 subv:1043 subd:844d) (rev: 05)
iTCO_wdt        : Intel Corporation|Cougar Point LPC Controller [BRIDGE_ISA] (vendor:8086 device:1c46 subv:1043 subd:844d) (rev: 05)
ehci_hcd        : Intel Corporation|Cougar Point USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 [SERIAL_USB] (vendor:8086 device:1c26 subv:1043 subd:844d) (rev: 05)
shpchp          : Intel Corporation|Cougar Point PCI Express Root Port 8 [BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:8086 device:1c1e) (rev: b5)
shpchp          : Intel Corporation|Cougar Point PCI Express Root Port 7 [BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:8086 device:1c1c) (rev: b5)
shpchp          : Intel Corporation|Cougar Point PCI Express Root Port 6 [BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:8086 device:1c1a) (rev: b5)
unknown         : Intel Corporation|82801 PCI Bridge [BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:8086 device:244e) (rev: b5)
shpchp          : Intel Corporation|Cougar Point PCI Express Root Port 1 [BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:8086 device:1c10) (rev: b5)
snd_hda_intel   : Intel Corporation|Cougar Point High Definition Audio Controller (vendor:8086 device:1c20 subv:1043 subd:841b) (rev: 05)
ehci_hcd        : Intel Corporation|Cougar Point USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 [SERIAL_USB] (vendor:8086 device:1c2d subv:1043 subd:844d) (rev: 05)
unknown         : Intel Corporation|Cougar Point HECI Controller #1 [COMMUNICATION_OTHER] (vendor:8086 device:1c3a subv:1043 subd:844d) (rev: 04)
shpchp          : Intel Corporation|Sandy Bridge PCI Express Root Port [BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:8086 device:0101) (rev: 09)
unknown         : Intel Corporation|Sandy Bridge DRAM Controller [BRIDGE_HOST] (vendor:8086 device:0100 subv:1043 subd:844d) (rev: 09)
hub             : Linux 2.6.38.8-server-6.mga xhci_hcd|xHCI Host Controller [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub] (vendor:1d6b device:0003)
hub             : Linux 2.6.38.8-server-6.mga ehci_hcd|EHCI Host Controller [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub] (vendor:1d6b device:0002)
hub             : Intel Corp.|Integrated Rate Matching Hub [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub] (vendor:8087 device:0024)
hub             : NEC Corp.|HighSpeed Hub [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub] (vendor:0409 device:005a)
usbhid          : ATEN|CS1784 [Human Interface Device|Boot Interface Subclass|Keyboard] (vendor:0557 device:2213)
snd_usb_audio   : Creative Technology|SB Live! 24-bit External [Audio|Control Device] (vendor:041e device:3040)
hub             : Genesys Logic, Inc.|USB2.0 Hub [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub] (vendor:05e3 device:0608)
hub             : Genesys Logic, Inc.|USB2.0 Hub [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub] (vendor:05e3 device:0608)
hub             : Linux 2.6.38.8-server-6.mga ehci_hcd|EHCI Host Controller [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub] (vendor:1d6b device:0002)
hub             : Intel Corp.|Integrated Rate Matching Hub [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub] (vendor:8087 device:0024)


I'm using the proprietary nvidia driver. KDE4 and no silly desktop effects. ;)

Re: Mageia 1 (KDE) is locking up (other than mouse) fairly o

PostPosted: Oct 18th, '11, 16:16
by doktor5000
Are you by any chance using USB 3.0 devices when the lock-ups occur?

Re: Mageia 1 (KDE) is locking up (other than mouse) fairly o

PostPosted: Oct 18th, '11, 16:24
by DiBosco
doktor5000 wrote:Are you by any chance using USB 3.0 devices when the lock-ups occur?


No, I don't have any USB 3 devices. I don't think it's a hardware issue as Mandriva didn't do this.

Re: Mageia 1 (KDE) is locking up (other than mouse) fairly o

PostPosted: Oct 18th, '11, 16:26
by doktor5000
Compared to Mandriva Mageia kernel is quite more recent with many changes, this could be a possible reason.

Reading or writing on NTFS file systems during the lock-ups?

Re: Mageia 1 (KDE) is locking up (other than mouse) fairly o

PostPosted: Oct 18th, '11, 16:31
by DiBosco
No NTFS, no.

Maybe I should try booting from the older kernel then?

Re: Mageia 1 (KDE) is locking up (other than mouse) fairly o

PostPosted: Oct 18th, '11, 17:00
by doktor5000
If you didn't try that yet, sure.

Re: Mageia 1 (KDE) is locking up (other than mouse) fairly o

PostPosted: Oct 21st, '11, 23:26
by PiElle
I'm experimenting a similar problem on a notebook Acer Travelmate 8572TG with Nvidia GeForce GT330M and the proprietary Nvidia driver installed.
Randomly, expecially on boot, the system totally locks up (really, gets stuck, totally freezes). I must power off the computer to solve the problem.
No useful log messages.
Otherwise the system is working perfectly!

Re: Mageia 1 (KDE) is locking up (other than mouse) fairly o

PostPosted: Oct 24th, '11, 20:36
by PiElle
It happened again! :(
It happens randomly at the log in window (just after the Nvidia logo), when I'm hitting the o. k. button (after selecting user and password).
The system freezes completely (touchpad cursor included).
Could it be related to this?

[root@pc ~]# grep -i failed /var/log/prcsys.log
Starting system logger: [FAILED]
Retrigger failed udev events [ OK ]
SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
Waiting for network to be up [FAILED]
Stopping boot logger [FAILED]

It does not occour with Fedora 15 or Windows 7 running on the same computer ... :|

Re: Mageia 1 (KDE) is locking up (other than mouse) fairly o

PostPosted: Oct 27th, '11, 08:03
by David_Batson
I had a similar problem using Gnome's Network Manager in KDE. I could use the mouse, but I couldn't open anything except shutdown and logout. As long as I did not use Network Manager, there was no problem. I ended up uninstalling Network Manager and using kppp instead. Problem solved.

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=685&p=4599&hilit=network+x+server#p4599

Re: Mageia 1 (KDE) is locking up (other than mouse) fairly o

PostPosted: Nov 3rd, '11, 19:18
by DiBosco
I think I have solved the dosbox problem with the script in one of the posts here:

http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=16730

The flash issue is probably just because Adobe make **** software and there's nowt we can do about it with it being proprietary.

Re: Mageia 1 (KDE) is locking up (other than mouse) fairly o

PostPosted: Nov 3rd, '11, 20:14
by doktor5000
DiBosco wrote:The flash issue is probably just because Adobe make **** software and there's nowt we can do about it with it being proprietary.

Well, you could use any of the alternatives from the MAQeia for Flashplayer Plugin
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