Mageia forum

Whilst admitting that some mouseover effects are useful, two always get me grinding my teth. Particularly since I can't fathom a way of banishing them. The first, and most useless, is the mouseover effect on hovering over a screen icon, which brings up a semi transparent repeat of the icon in question. Why one should have a repeat , admttedly in different proportions, of something which is self explanatory, in the first case, is something which I fail to understand. The other is the mouseover effect of the cursor falling on an item in the Task manager bar. This brings up a full size example of the minimised window, to cover and obscure what you have currently on the screen. Since it happens more often by chance than by choice, it is disconcerting to say the least, to have the screen suddenly invaded by an application stored safely away..It's particularly annoying if you're watching a whole screen video, and inadvertantly slide the cursor to the bottom of the screen, and the whole display disappears. In addition, it's useful to 'park' the cursor at the bottom of the screen rather than have it superimposed on what you're watching. And while we're on the subject of the task bar. When I first built the system, on the left side, to the immediate left of the four desktop icons, there were four blank icons which you could drag other, oft used applications onto. . Having filled them, they seem immovable and unchangeable. How do I replace the old icon, perhaps of lesser importance tham a recent one, whith a new one. And also how do I add another place in the same area, to add to the default four.

rodgoslin wrote:When I first built the system, on the left side, to the immediate left of the four desktop icons, there were four blank icons which you could drag other, oft used applications onto. . Having filled them, they seem immovable and unchangeable. How do I replace the old icon, perhaps of lesser importance tham a recent one, whith a new one. And also how do I add another place in the same area, to add to the default four.

I put this on your other post :
to move or remove the icon from the system tray or task-bar because you no longer need it there or because it is in the wrong place
right click the mouse on the icon, choose " panel options ", then " choose panel settings "
If you then place the mouse pointer over the icon, a 4 way arrow appears and also a small box that has : " spanner ", icon and "x "
The 4 way arrow will move the icon left / right along the task-bar / system tray, or to the desktop. the spanner adjusts setting for permissions etc, and "x " will delete the icon.

I dont kow that you can increase the default 4, but you could increase the # of virtual desktops - up to 20 if that is a viable option [ system settings => workspace behaviour ]

Thanks Benmc. I am aware that I can have up to twenty virtual desktope, but that is not the point. That was only to identify the four icons I was referring to. Of the four, once you have filled them in with an application link (an icon), they appear cast in stone. I cannot, re-assign that item with another link. To illustrate my point, one of the icons is for Amarok, but I've lately been using Clementine instead, as the music player of choice. I would like to re-assign the link to Amarok to one to Clementine. But how? The ability to add another place would be nice, since it would appear that I can delete an existing one, but not to change or add another to replace it.. Your other point, re to move or remove an icon from system tray or task bar, I'll answer on my other post.

The four "blank icons" are not part of a default Mageia KDE. By default you should have an Activities Manager in the position that you refer to. It is represented by three coloured dots. I usually remove it since I have no use for it. If what you are referring to is indeed a (non-default) Activities Manager, right-clicking on it should so indicate. Some links that may help in using Activities on KDE4:

https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=93183

To change the mouse-over effect that you dislike, look into Tools/System Tools/System Settings/Workspace Appearance and Behaviour/Desktop Effects. I always disable them and so can't give explicit instructions on the changes you want.

Jim

I think you mean the Icon-Only Task Manager.

To add a launcher to it, you first have to unlock the launchers. Right click on the panel and click Unlock Launchers. You can then do things like move them around. To add one to it you simply launch the application and then right click it's icon in the task bar. You'll see that since you unlocked the launchers there is now an option to Show a Launcher When Not Running. Remember to lock your launchers again when you're done.

I'm not sure why my system never seems to work as described. In your post, right clicking does not reveal an option to "Unlock Launchers", and in Bemc's post, none of the instructions worked as described. Added to which, I still have the main drift of this post unresolved. Which is how to get rid of these maddening mouseover effects. Bells and Whistles are all very well if you like music. But as far as I'm concerned they only waste my time, annoy me and cause frustration in trying to get rid of the things.

That's exactly why it's useful to not put several issues into one thread. Also it's helpful to not simply put up one huge chunk of text, without newlines or some sort of separation.

To sort those out:
- first effect appears e.g. for shortcuts on the desktop, and cannot be disabled from what I can see, at least it's no desktop effect. You may be able to change the workspace theme to influence this slightly.
- second effect you describe (mouseover on window list entries) is a preview of the window content. Can be disabled as explained by Jim via Tools/System Tools/System Settings/Workspace Appearance and Behaviour/Desktop Effects-> all effects -> appearance -> previews of windowlist entries (something like that, don't know the exact wording in english)
- last issue is probably a handling issue with the pager. But I can't help with that as I don't use it

Re the second effect. There is no option for enabling or disabling preview of the window content in the suggested area

If you disabled the window preview or desktop effects altogether, what is displayed is controlled by your window list settings.
Right-click the window-list -> settings for window list and disable the display of short infos. Not sure if this is the same for the default icontasks window list.
After disabling that, nothing is displayed on mouseover.

Right-click on Task Manager and select - Icons only task manager settings - Appearance - Tooltips - "Do not show"

Jim

Jim is correct.

Tool tips would seem to have nothing to do with Previews but that's the only way I've found to disable the previews.

Thank. That's half the job done. It's removed the popups on the task bar instaces, but I still have the desktop icons to deal with. As a 'frinstance. If I hover over the icon for Clementine, I get a popup which has the Clemenrine sybol ( a slice of orange) the word clementine, which is exactly what the icon depicts, plus the words "Plays music and last.fm streams". I already know this. The icon would not be on the desktop if I did not know, intimatyely, what it does. It's all redundant and unwanted information. To have it is a waste of the developers time in designing it and mine in having to put up with it. If I put on my shoes, I do not expect the shoe to say "This is a shoe. It is for putting on your right foot"

system settings -> workspace behaviour -> workspace -> show informational tips
Be aware that this also disables tooltips for the icons in the systray and everything on the panel (e.g. the clock).