[SOLVED] LiveCD KDE English to installed Mageia 4 KDE Portu

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[SOLVED] LiveCD KDE English to installed Mageia 4 KDE Portu

Postby prafael » May 15th, '14, 16:23

Hi all,

I'm new to Mageia but not Linux or KDE. I installed Mageia 4 from a LiveCD (Kde only English). The installation went ok. I tried to localize it to Portuguese and, to me, all seems ok... kde-l10n-pt installed, preferred language in locales (system settings) is Portuguese an then..log ou, log in and... it remains in English. Humm.. tried "Regional Settings", log out, log in..and still in English. I've checked system locales via terminal..and they are installed except LC_ALL, which is empty. Please... don't tell me that I cannot update my language after installing Mageia 4 from the LiveCD.... :oops:

Help please

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Re: from LiveCD KDE English to installed Mageia 4 KDE Portug

Postby doktor5000 » May 18th, '14, 15:10

Did you already choose portuguese during the installation, or did you install in english?
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Re: from LiveCD KDE English to installed Mageia 4 KDE Portug

Postby prafael » May 18th, '14, 15:44

Hi doktor5000.

the english language is the only available on the Mageia KDE LiveCD ( so I undestand from https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/)... so the installation was made in the English language.

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Re: from LiveCD KDE English to installed Mageia 4 KDE Portug

Postby doktor5000 » May 18th, '14, 16:22

Ahh, okay for the CD that seems to be english-only nowadays.
I'll dig out the instructions how to convert to another language. You basically have to reinstall all packages if I remember correctly,
after verifying the language definitions. f you want an easier and faster way, you can also use the LiveDVD to reinstall.
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Re: from LiveCD KDE English to installed Mageia 4 KDE Portug

Postby prafael » May 18th, '14, 16:33

Ok... :oops:

txs for yoxur replay.... I will download de Live DVD...

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Re: from LiveCD KDE English to installed Mageia 4 KDE Portug

Postby Akien » May 18th, '14, 20:00

prafael wrote:Ok... :oops:

txs for yoxur replay.... I will download de Live DVD...

Regards

Paulo

It is possible to switch to Portuguese if the same has been installed in English, but it's not that straight-forward indeed.

IIRC you would have to:
* install locales-pt and kde-i10n-pt
* change the locale in the MCC
After these steps you should already have the system at least partly in Portuguese. From my experience though the Mageia tools would still be in English, so you would have to reinstall them with "urpmi --replacepkgs --replacefiles drakconf" for the MCC, and maybe a similar command for other packages. Basically you should just reinstall any package that is still in English (for some packages urpmi installs only the needed locale, so if it was English when they got installed, you need to reinstall them once the locale is set to Portuguese).

So yes, if you have the opportunity, it's simpler to install with a LiveDVD. But we should definitely make something about it for mga5 so that it is possible to change language easily.
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Re: from LiveCD KDE English to installed Mageia 4 KDE Portug

Postby doktor5000 » May 18th, '14, 20:16

Akien wrote:IIRC you would have to:
* install locales-pt and kde-i10n-pt
* change the locale in the MCC
After these steps you should already have the system at least partly in Portuguese. From my experience though the Mageia tools would still be in English, so you would have to reinstall them with "urpmi --replacepkgs --replacefiles drakconf" for the MCC, and maybe a similar command for other packages. Basically you should just reinstall any package that is still in English (for some packages urpmi installs only the needed locale, so if it was English when they got installed, you need to reinstall them once the locale is set to Portuguese).

So yes, if you have the opportunity, it's simpler to install with a LiveDVD. But we should definitely make something about it for mga5 so that it is possible to change language easily.


That's exactly what I meant. Could you open a bugreport if none exists yet, so this is not forgotten?
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Re: from LiveCD KDE English to installed Mageia 4 KDE Portug

Postby prafael » May 19th, '14, 00:39

Hi doktor5000 and Akien

txs for your answers and help.

Please, feel free to mark this topic [CLOSED].

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Re: from LiveCD KDE English to installed Mageia 4 KDE Portug

Postby doktor5000 » May 19th, '14, 10:43

Please mark the thread accordingly by editing the topic of the first post and prefix it by [SOLVED], thanks
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Re: from LiveCD KDE English to installed Mageia 4 KDE Portug

Postby doktor5000 » Aug 17th, '14, 17:03

doktor5000 wrote:
Akien wrote:IIRC you would have to:
* install locales-pt and kde-i10n-pt
* change the locale in the MCC
After these steps you should already have the system at least partly in Portuguese. From my experience though the Mageia tools would still be in English, so you would have to reinstall them with "urpmi --replacepkgs --replacefiles drakconf" for the MCC, and maybe a similar command for other packages. Basically you should just reinstall any package that is still in English (for some packages urpmi installs only the needed locale, so if it was English when they got installed, you need to reinstall them once the locale is set to Portuguese).

So yes, if you have the opportunity, it's simpler to install with a LiveDVD. But we should definitely make something about it for mga5 so that it is possible to change language easily.


That's exactly what I meant. Could you open a bugreport if none exists yet, so this is not forgotten?



@Akien: Is there any bugreport for this issue, or has there already been some work for Mageia 5?
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Re: [SOLVED] LiveCD KDE English to installed Mageia 4 KDE P

Postby Renato » Dec 14th, '14, 00:47

Hi, everyone, just went through some trouble and wanted to write the solution I found.

First, the problem:

Old, but still efficient AMD Sempron ~1.6MHz CPU, 1.6 GB RAM, Nvidia card (series 6), HD replaced (original is on the roof -- it's a joke) -- all in all, a reasonable machine, and I wanted to make it work again.

BUT... the DVD drive was malfunctioning. Several DVDs wouldn't boot, or booted up to some point and started to show "SquashFS error reading sector nnn" or something. I mean _several_: recorded at low speed (4x), at medium speed (6x and 8x), at the speed the drive had printed on it (16x). The only things which worked were CDs (but not every one!).

I do have an external DVD drive, but that machine BIOS wouldn't recognize it -- not as USB CDROM and not as USB HDD. USB FDD and USB ZIP, as I recall, didn't work, too. I seem to recall it being recognized as USB LS120 (whatever that may be), but a DVD wouldn't boot anyway.

Luckily Mageia 4.1 Live CD booted and could be installed. Except... no possibility to change from an English locale to Portuguese (same problem as above). After reading the suggestion about re-installing all packages, I decided to explore other ideas... :-P

The solution:

Seeing the external drive worked correctly with the English Mageia, I tried to find a way to boot a small version which would then allow booting from the (by then working) external drive. Maybe there's a way to do it directly from a live version -- but not in mine knowledge.

Fortunately, after much digging, I found the "Wired Network-based Installation CD" would install from a bunch of sources, not just the network (which was also a good option). In particular, it could install from CDROM.

Seriously, guys, what about changing the name to something like "Multiple origin installation launcher"? (ok, I'm not good at names, too...)

Alas, it didn't work. It found the drive, alright, but wouldn't boot the Mageia DVD in it. But there was an option to use a USB HDD. I tried the "isodumper" thing and it didn't boot, but this time I suspected the ISO image would be booted directly (which is why I think there must be a way to do it directly from the Live CD).

And voilà! It worked. Kinda.

On first boot, things were working quite nicely until some UUID xx13 was sought, not found and thus a timeout occurred (and the PC froze). Booting again with the Live CD and examining fstab I saw that was the USB drive, expected as sdb1. Inserted again the drive and all went fine. Except I didn't want it to remain there.

I did the following things and got rid of the USB drive:

a) removed the local medias with Drakconf, adding internet based ones;
b) reboot the Live CD;
c) edited "device.map" in /boot/grub, removing hd1 (the USB drive)
d) edited menu.lst in the boot and got rid of the last entry, "Windows", a reference to the FAT32 USB drive;
e) at last, edited fstab in /etc and got rid of the reference to the USB drive (sdb1, in the present case).

After all that, Mageia 4.1 is booting nicely. It even updated everything with a "urpmi --auto-update". The only difference is that tty2 is assigned the graphical UI, tty3 can be used as text console, but tty1 just shows a black screen. Perhaps there's something yet to be done.

From all this, I wonder if a USB drive should be considered removable (just like a DVD-ROM); the system should boot without it and should ask for it, just like it asks for the install CDROM when we install a new package.
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Re: [SOLVED] LiveCD KDE English to installed Mageia 4 KDE P

Postby doktor5000 » Dec 14th, '14, 18:58

Renato wrote:From all this, I wonder if a USB drive should be considered removable (just like a DVD-ROM); the system should boot without it and should ask for it, just like it asks for the install CDROM when we install a new package.

Yes, boot should not fail in that case. There are several bugreports for that already open, see viewtopic.php?p=53353#p53353 for a list.
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