[SOLVED] Connection Problems after Install

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[SOLVED] Connection Problems after Install

Postby gooseberry » Oct 15th, '13, 15:00

I am new to linux. I have installed Mageia with all desktop managements, etc. The first time I installed, it ran fine until I updated. Then it just would even boot. I completely wiped it and started over.

I installed again, but did no updates. Now I cannot get it to connect to the router. I have been through the forum here and the buggzilla notations and found the problem. I just was wondering if it has been fixed. My problem is similar to those explained, except even if I reboot it still won't connect using network manager, or any of the apps. Have tried in KDE, Gnome, E17, and two others. Still have the same problem. I connect fine with mint, windows, and knoppix. I really like Mageia and would like to get it going. Does anyone have a fix for this problem yet?

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Re: Connection Problems after Install

Postby doktor5000 » Oct 15th, '13, 20:55

gooseberry wrote:I have been through the forum here and the buggzilla notations and found the problem. I just was wondering if it has been fixed. [...]
Does anyone have a fix for this problem yet?

Fix for which problem exactly?

If you're using GNOME, you either need to enable networkmanager to use it, or use net_applet, which appears when you hover your mouse over the lower right corner of the screen.
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Re: Connection Problems after Install

Postby gooseberry » Oct 16th, '13, 02:04

Thank you for replying. I have tried both the net_applet and networkmanager for the wireless connection in KDE, Gnome, and E17. They all see the wireless connections, yet won't connect to any of them. I only get a message connection error. However, when I reboot into Mint or Windows, neither have problem connecting. I have tried, as suggested, to reboot back into Mageia and still won't connect to either of the wireless routers even though it sees them both.
If I try to reinstall, would that help possibly? I ask because I can boot off the Mageia live cd(dvd) and it will find the connections and connect without any problems.
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Re: Connection Problems after Install

Postby doktor5000 » Oct 16th, '13, 20:29

Reinstalling doesn't magically fix issues. Maybe you have the same problem as "curioususer" from this thread: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=4460

But it would be best if you provide at least the output of the following commands:

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lspcidrake -v | grep -i NET
ps -ef | grep -ie net -e wpa


and, as root:
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journalctl -b -u network --no-pager -a
systemctl status network.service -a
journalctl -b | grep -i firmware
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Re: Connection Problems after Install

Postby gooseberry » Oct 17th, '13, 17:48

doktor5000,
I will do what you say after I reinstall.

I had read that thread before ( "curioususer" ). That was why I was wondering if this issue has been resolved.I presume it is still necessary to uninstall one of the network managers? Interestingly, I can bring up the wireless accounts and connect to them when running off the live cd/dvd. Then as I reboot into the installed Mageia, it doesn't connect. I am installing and testing edubuntu for my son at the moment. Will get Mageia reinstalled soon as this is completed so I may give you the report you asked..
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Re: Connection Problems after Install

Postby doktor5000 » Oct 17th, '13, 20:56

Well, I've tried to reproduce what he described, and wasn't able to. It's not necessary to remove a network manager, you just need to handle them correctly.
I've never hat to fiddle with ifplugd, and that's the first time I've heards this from somebody.
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Re: Connection Problems after Install--->Solved

Postby gooseberry » Oct 23rd, '13, 19:02

Thank all of you for your help. I un-installed all the distros and went back to square one. It seems that one of the distros was turning off the usb wireless connection when I would leave it. After watching what was happening, I noticed that If I simply rebooted, I wouldn't have the wireless available sometimes. However, If I turned off the computer and brought it back up, the wireless would be available. I didn't realize this in the beginning; and since I am just learning these distros, the issue was a frustration.

After systematically installing each distro and checking the wireless connections, I was able to find the offending party and fix the problem. Weird, but solved. All are playing happily together now. I have learned a lot in all of this with combing through the forums and instructions. The offence "appears" to have been a security function in one of the network handling programs (not Mageia's).

I had become so accustomed (lazy) to Windows world doing so much for me, I forgot what a fun learning challenge it is to work with a system one can have more interaction with. I have tried over 10 distros and Mageia is my favorite, which is probably why I worked so hard to get it working with the other systems. Now I can walk my son through this and send him upon his exploratory way. Thank you again for all your help! Sincerely.........
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Re: [SOLVED] Connection Problems after Install

Postby doktor5000 » Oct 23rd, '13, 20:59

No problem, you're welcome.

General hint: It's often better to ask beforehand how to do something or get some recommendations/experiences,
instead of trying something on your own without the right documentation, than quitting halfway through and get to a forum
and ask "why doesn't this work". That's not directed at you personally, but maybe it can help.

Fiddling and exploring aka "learning by doing" on the other hand is mostly always the best way to learn a lot of a system,
so good luck to your son on his future endeavours :D
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Re: [SOLVED] Connection Problems after Install

Postby gooseberry » Oct 28th, '13, 02:59

doktor5000,
Thank you for your keen advice.
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