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Can Mageia use - http://easyurpmi.zarb.org?

If yes what version should we use on there site for Mageia 1.0

Thanks
Holzster

Holzster,

No, it is not necessary, the media PLF are in repositories Tainted.

See topic: Re: plf media in easy urpmi- Postby maat » Jun 10th, '11, 08:30

maat wrote: you do not need plf any more with mageia
just go to your media manager and activate tainted and tainted updates

Germ wrote:Yes, using PLF can cause problems/conflicts.

See a topic about Mageia Medias - software repositories. For the "Common User", it is recommended to select the media: 1, 3, 11, 13, 21 and 23:


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Cheers!

Related issue:

I am having trouble using the procedure (from errata) for adding 32 bit repositories (non-free, tainted) to a 64 bit system.

Would someone be so kind as to provide clear instructions?

This is an example of why easyurpmi is so useful.

Sorry for being so thick.

Cheers

MontyWilliams

Where in errata did you see a procedure to add 32-bit Tainted & Non-free repositories in a 64-bit system?
I can't see any procedure like that.
And why would you want to do that?
In a 64-bit system, as far as I know, the only 32-bit repositories you need to enable are: Core 32bit release & Core 32bit updates. Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong...
They are added & enabled by default, because not every needed package is in 64-bit and also because some 32bit-only software/programs (like skype, for example)
need 32-bit packages to work properly in a 64-bit system.

If you meant, how to add the full set of sources/media needed for a 64-bit system, it is not that difficult, that's how you do it, assuming you don't have any media configured so far:
Go to MCC >> Configure media sources for install and update >> click the button Add
A small window (Choose media type) appears, with two choices, click the one on the right: Full set of sources.
Another small window appears (Mirror choice), click Yes.
That's it. You also see a small window with the progress of downloading the sources.
After a while, you see the list with your media/sources (40 sources for install and update, but you won't need all these).
The same result you used to have with easyurpmi in Mandriva, but with fewer, less clicks. it's easier, don't you think?

In Mageia errata, there is note that: in Free DVD (32-bit or 64-bit) installations, the Non-free sources (Release & Update) are enabled by default, which is a mistake. They should be added of course (and they are added)
but not enabled, because the installations made by the DVDs are meant to be Free-only software installations. The user should decide, if he wants or not, to enable it.
Maybe you were confused by that?
Did you installed Mageia from a Free DVD x86_64?
Then, if you want to use the proprietary (non-free) nvidia or ati drivers for your video card, you don't have to do anything, leave them (the Non-free Release & Non-free Updates sources) as they are: enabled.

Now, if you want -as an example- to listen to music in mp3 or musepack, or watch a movie with dts sound stream, you need to install these codecs.
In Mandriva, you could find that kind of codecs in PLF repos (or media, or sources, choose the expression you like).
In Mageia, you can find them in Tainted repositories, so you must enable (check the boxes) of Tainted Release & Tainted Update sources. Just 2 clicks.
Same thing as always, only the name is different: PLF then, now Tainted.

I hope I helped.
Have fun with your Mageia installation.
Bye
John66

Thanks for the information

I think the only case where that applies, and which is listed in the Errata, is 32bit Flashplayer on 64bit system.
Then you need 32bit nonfree sources, but the instructions are in the errata. http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id= ... repository
I think the part he didn't get, if i'm right, is the replacement of <mirror url> with the real, valid URL of a mageia mirror ...

doktor5000

I think the only case where that applies, and which is listed in the Errata, is 32bit Flashplayer on 64bit system.
Then you need 32bit nonfree sources, but the instructions are in the errata. http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id= ... repository
I think the part he didn't get, if i'm right, is the replacement of <mirror url> with the real, valid URL of a mageia mirror ...

Correct.

So, the command proposed on the errata is:

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$ urpmi.addmedia "Nonfree 32bit Release" <mirror url>/i586/media/nonfree/release

The "<mirror url>" should be replaced, as the name tells us, by the URL of the chosen mirror.

The different mirrors are listed here: http://mirrors.mageia.org/
There you can choose a mirror based on your location, and personal preferences if you happen to know some of those mirrors.

The table contains URLs, but in fact they are not complete. We can see that the instruction from the errata continues, after <mirror url>, with "/i586/...", and this directory is not where the URLs lead.
For example, if we choose LinuxCabal.org, we must go the the given URL, then browse to distrib/1/ and then we are in the directory which contains "i586", so: ftp://ftp.linuxcabal.org/pub/mirrors/Mageia/distrib/1/

The command will then be:

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$ urpmi.addmedia "Nonfree 32bit Release" ftp://ftp.linuxcabal.org/pub/mirrors/Mageia/distrib/1/i586/media/nonfree/release

Of course LinuxCabal.org is not necessarily the best mirror for your location, so you may do like in my example with another mirror.

If you want to use a specific mirror:
$ urpmi.addmedia “Nonfree 32bit Release” <mirror url>/i586/media/nonfree/release
$ urpmi.addmedia --update “Nonfree 32bit Updates” <mirror url>/i586/media/nonfree/updates

If you had already added the x86_64 online repos, you can get the url from your box:

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urpmq --list-url | grep Nonfree

just replace:
/x86_64/
with:
/i586/

in the url.

I know it's not ideal, but hopefully the situation can/will be improved.

OK got it. All now good.
Akien, Ahmed:

Thank you very much

Two problems showed up.

I was messing up on the syntax

ftp://ftp

The mirror I am using for 64 bit

webconquest.com

is missing (?) the required 32 bit repositories. Used the "linuxCabal"

Cheers

It exists: ftp://mageia.webconquest.com/distrib/1/ ... ia/nonfree

My apologies, to everyone, if I have misled anyone with my answer.
I skipped the part about 32-bit Adobe flash-plugin-player (ugh... I still use the 64-bit one, the "square").
I thought it was irrelevant with MontyWilliams's question. My mistake.

If you can confirm, as doktor5000 wrote, that the only reason to add a 32-bit non-free repository to a 64-bit mageia installation,
is for the 32-bit flash-plugin-player, wouldn't be beeter to have a "sticky" post, with 3-4 quide lines
on how to download the "stupid thing" (flash-plugin-player) from Adobe's download page and how to place it
in the correct folder, etc, so the users (mostly us, non-experienced) don't get into such trouble, like MontyWilliams did?
Just a thought.

Thanks for reading
and again, my apologies.

Bye
John66

Well, first let me say that the flash-player is a topic qhich has been discussed several times here, from various points of view. You will easily find those discussions.

One of the points which have been said repeatedly:
The "Square" is outdated software (November 2010), while flashplayer (32-bit) has received many security updates during these last 7 months. Security fixes which are not included in that old "Square". It should not be Mageia policy to actively promote the usage of such insecure software, namely such as flashplayer which has proved to (almost) be "insecure by nature".

wobo

You misunderstood me.
I didn't meant to write a guideline for the 64-bit flash-player-plugin (I know about the security issues), or even suggested that someone should use it.
I meant -and wrote- about the 32-bit flash and the "installation" of it in 64-bit systems.
I know that there are posts repeatedly about that topic (and not only in this forum). And as you see, people, users, still keep asking.
So wouldn't be better to be a "sticky post" about it? That is what I wrote.

Bye
John66

Ok, now what would you write there?
1. That it is not a good idea to install the 32-bit plugin in a 64-bit system, but users shall do it nevertheless because there is no reliable 64-bit plugin? You will be swamped by advocates of Square.
2. That users should forget about flashplayer and use HTML5? (YoiuTube is running a test, since I clicked on a "I will" button there almost all YouTube videos I want to see are presented in HTML5 and FF takes them ok.
3. That gnash is doing alright with most flash videos?

Just a few thoughts.... I know that "the unwashed masses" want their flashplayer plugin.