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[SOLVED] Question about upgrade manager

PostPosted: Nov 29th, '12, 06:22
by mark9117
Please forgive me if this is in the wrong place or has been asked a hundred time before. I've been drinking and can't locate the information with the search feature.

I need, actually want, to upgrade my desktop from Mageia 1 to Mageia 2. I know that under Mandriva, the upgrade feature of the update notifier applet was less than reliable. By "less than reliable" I mean it broke your machine 9 times out of 10.

Has that feature been improved enough to actually use in Mageia 1? It would be really cool if I could just tell this thing to upgrade and go to bed and not find a steaming pile of kernel panic when I got up.

Barring that, can I just set the media manager to the repos for Mageia 2 and update everything?

Thanks for whatever info you have.

Mark

Re: Question about upgrade manager

PostPosted: Nov 29th, '12, 12:03
by claire
Hi Mark

There are a couple of areas to watch out for which are currently being improved for Mageia 3, so if you do have an issue with them then you should find things go alot better next time. If you are able to then manually changing repos to Mageia 2 and updating online would probably be a good option. Don't try to upgrade using Live ISOs, they are not intended for that purpose, the Installer ISOs (DVDs) are able to upgrade but I would recommend upgrading online wherever possible, especially this long after release, as there have been many updates.

The upgrade applet has historically disabled Nonfree and Tainted medias during upgrade (Mdv2010.2 -> Mga1 -> Mga2) and only upgrades from Core, which is purely free software. This can cause problems where you have hardware which needs nonfree firmware (Some graphics cards, wifi etc). For Mageia 3 the plan is to change that behaviour so it will leave medias enabled which are already enabled.

Also, upstream support for many older intel devices has been dropped, something which affects all distributions unfortunately. If this affects you then you might encounter problems after the reboot. You can try adding xdriver=vesa kernel option at the grub menu screen and sometimes acpi=off helps too.

You can have a read through the errata here: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata and release notes here https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Release_Notes

There is probably somebody who can advise you better but HTH

Claire (MrsB)

Re: Question about upgrade manager

PostPosted: Nov 29th, '12, 16:04
by djennings
Definitely do it by upgrading sources then
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urpmi.update -a
urpmi urpmi
urpmi --auto-select
urpmi --auto-select
urpmi kernel-desktop-latest

Do the update twice because the first time some packages may not install.
If any packages still refuse to upgrade delete any package blocking the upgrade with
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rpm -e --nodeps package
and then add it in again later if you still need it.

As always backup any essential data.
Hopefully Bug 6061 will be fixed before Mga3 comes out. Can you hurry it along Claire?

Re: Question about upgrade manager

PostPosted: Nov 30th, '12, 11:23
by filip
I also recommend reading upgrade guide.

Re: Question about upgrade manager

PostPosted: Nov 30th, '12, 13:06
by claire
djennings wrote:Can you hurry it along Claire?


I'll do my best :)

Re: Question about upgrade manager

PostPosted: Dec 8th, '12, 01:47
by wintpe
Ive said it loads of times before and ill say it again.

Before you start an upgrade using any of the options,

Ie dvd, network or fresh install.

Download the 100 meg iso of latest clonezilla.

Burn it to an 800 meg cd

Boot from it.

Then image your whole drive to an attached usb, sata or network attached drive.

If you find stinking pile of ********* in morning and its to big to shovel, the just

Restore and rethink........

Regards peter

Re: Question about upgrade manager

PostPosted: Dec 8th, '12, 04:39
by mark9117
wintpe wrote:Ive said it loads of times before and ill say it again.

Before you start an upgrade using any of the options,

Ie dvd, network or fresh install.

Download the 100 meg iso of latest clonezilla.

Burn it to an 800 meg cd

Boot from it.r


And of course this is good advice.

I'm backed up well enough that I could just do a fresh install, and I'm thinking about doing just that. I like the way it cleans out the cruft.

Okay, thank you all.

Mark

Re: Question about upgrade manager

PostPosted: Dec 8th, '12, 20:53
by doktor5000
Please mark the thread accordingly by editing the topic of the first post and prefix it by [SOLVED], thanks.