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[SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 22nd, '12, 13:15
by stinger
Hi all
I have searched but can't find a solution to my problem.

How do I create a live usb-stick from the Mageia-ISO in Windows ?

Re: Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 23rd, '12, 00:19
by tom_
try
stinger wrote:How do I create a live usb-stick from the Mageia-ISO in Windows ?


here
you can find some tips :)

Re: Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 23rd, '12, 19:13
by stinger
Thank you very much, just what I was searching for :-)

Re: Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 23rd, '12, 20:27
by isadora
Stinger, very welcome to the Mageia-forum!!! :)

Great to see your problem is solved.
Would you mind marking the topic solved?
You can do so by editing the title in the first post.
Pre-fix the title with [SOLVED].

Thanks in advance.
And oh yes, have great times with Mageia. ;)

Re: [SOLVED]Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 24th, '12, 10:40
by stinger
Thanks again
Thread is now marked solved.
( couldn't find the darn thing ;) )

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 24th, '12, 20:13
by stinger
Hi again.
I tried Rufus http://rufus.akeo.ie/, and the liveusb-creator from fedora , I cant get any of them to work. :(
Rufus creates an image that boots the kernel fine but it can' mount the root file system.

The liveusb-creator from Fedora creates an image that boots the kernel fine too but can't find the usb-drive because of a naming issue, Fedora liveusb-creator renames the drive to "LIVE" and It seems that Mageia only accepts it's own name "Mageia-2-GNOME-LiveCD" or something like that.

That leaves only mandriva-seed-windows.zip. That one worked, phew ! ;) But then again, only works with a WinXP.

I think it's a bit hard for a newbee to create a live usb stick from the images compared to other distros, hope it will be easier in near future.

But once the sh.. boots, wauw what an amazing Gnome desktop you have got :o , I think it's the best out there, why make it so difficult to get there ?

I have used Linux since 2001, my first successful installation was Mandrake 8.2, then after all the breakage with the 9 series I moved to PCLinuxOS, went back to Mandriva with the 10 series but switched to Ubuntu in 2005 with the "Breezy Badger" 5.10, have been a Ubuntu user since.

But now Ubuntu has Unity instead of Gnome and I really like Gnome better.
I think you have done a wonderful job with both the Mandriva-fork and the beautiful implementation of Gnome, my kudos :)

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 25th, '12, 12:44
by tom_
Thanks for reporting your experiences :)

maybe it would be better to have them in a bug report
as whishes for the next release,
suggesting to improve the wiki page and the procedure

please follow guidelines

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 26th, '12, 14:01
by stinger
Will do a bug report too ;)
Thanks for the advice.
Cheers

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 27th, '12, 10:30
by Xtigyro
Neither of the methods worked for me.
Rufus does not boot the system. The same with the Fedora tool. The same with: the "Universal-USB-Installer", "LinuxLive USB Creator", "Unetbootin".

"Mandriva-seed" does not find any plugged usb stick (Windows 7, 32-bit) even if the compatability mode for Win XP is used.

And I do not have any DVD/CD-ROM.

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 27th, '12, 11:10
by tom_
some guy has succesfully used this tool from winseven

https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/

Could you try it and let us kwon if it works for you?

thanks

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 27th, '12, 16:04
by Xtigyro
tom_ wrote:some guy has succesfully used this tool from winseven

https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/

Could you try it and let us kwon if it works for you?

thanks


Sure. I'll try it later but since yesterday I cannot open ubuntu.com or launchpad.net... Does somebody know why is that? :)

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 27th, '12, 18:23
by Xtigyro
Xtigyro wrote:
tom_ wrote:some guy has succesfully used this tool from winseven

https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/

Could you try it and let us kwon if it works for you?

thanks


Sure. I'll try it later but since yesterday I cannot open ubuntu.com or launchpad.net... Does somebody know why is that? :)

The app requires "img" to be used instead of "iso". What I should do in this case? I tried to use the "iso" but the usb stick is useless, no data is written on it which can be read.

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 28th, '12, 11:06
by tom_
you can easily change the file type and then it should work,
but you said it didn't work for you :(

I'm starting to think the image you have downloaded is not working... have you checked its md5?

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 28th, '12, 19:04
by Xtigyro
tom_ wrote:you can easily change the file type and then it should work,
but you said it didn't work for you :(

I'm starting to think the image you have downloaded is not working... have you checked its md5?

I've tried at least 5 times different iso's (three GNOME and KDE edition isos) from at least 3 different mirrors.

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 29th, '12, 10:40
by tom_
Xtigyro wrote:I've tried at least 5 times different iso's (three GNOME and KDE edition isos) from at least 3 different mirrors.


to be really sure you should verify the checksum of the file.

On the download page, when click on a version,
you can see a window reporting something like

$ md5sum Mageia-2-x86_64-DVD.iso
0274423b95aed09b53286b5fc7282fef


when you have downloaded the .iso file,
you can check if the file is good with a simple utility like

http://www.winmd5.com

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 29th, '12, 11:48
by Xtigyro
Okay, I'll check it later. No problem! :)

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 29th, '12, 20:46
by doktor5000
Please, no fullquotes when you only reply with one sentence.

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 29th, '12, 23:46
by Xtigyro
tom_ wrote:to be really sure you should verify the checksum of the file.

me@ubuntu:/media/x-data/torrs/lx/Mageia-2-LiveCD-GNOME-Europe2-i586-CD$ md5sum Mageia-2-LiveCD-GNOME-Europe2-i586-CD.iso
57cb6f5cd2d95c9c58ea6c9e688723ba Mageia-2-LiveCD-GNOME-Europe2-i586-CD.iso


It matches.

When using Rufus to make the bootable usb stick, the system hangs with this error:

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 30th, '12, 01:19
by tom_
there is a workaround here:

use mandrivaseed for linux from a virtual machine (maybe it works also on your ubuntu)
to create the bootable Pen Drive Mageia 2.

or better, why you don't simply use
Code: Select all
dd
from ubuntu??

if you want to help the disto, you could also open a bug report following these guidelines describing what you saw

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Aug 30th, '12, 12:04
by Xtigyro
A bug is filed and I'll wait for the problem to be resolved. - https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7254

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Oct 21st, '12, 01:31
by tammerlane
I addressed this issue many months ago. There is NO interest in this forum for helping anyone to install Mageia from Windows. When the Linux fanboys who run this forum see that you run Windows, they loose interest. Linus Torvalds said that Linux must "win the hearts and minds of Windows users" if it is to increase usage worldwide. What good is a great distro if you discourage 98% of the the planet from using it. Mageia could have solved this in 2 weeks if they tried. Guess you gotta be a Linux geek to run Mageia. Why not learn a lesson from Ubuntu, Mint etc., and make easier to install. And perhaps you should remove the SOLVED label - since you only pretended to solve it.

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Oct 21st, '12, 04:22
by Ken-Bergen
tammerlane wrote:I addressed this issue many months ago. There is NO interest in this forum for helping anyone to install Mageia from Windows. ...........Why not learn a lesson from Ubuntu, Mint etc., and make easier to install. And perhaps you should remove the SOLVED label - since you only pretended to solve it.
Reading the thread the solution was in the second post.
Subsequent posts suggesting that there is still a problem come from those that didn't read the link in the second post and were still trying the old hacks that don't work with Hybrid ISO's.

No one here has anything against those that want to or for various reasons have to use Windows.

The question was how to put a Mageia ISO on a USB stick and as I said was answered in the second post.

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Oct 21st, '12, 11:18
by doktor5000
tammerlane wrote:I addressed this issue many months ago. There is NO interest in this forum for helping anyone to install Mageia from Windows. When the Linux fanboys who run this forum see that you run Windows, they loose interest.


This is totally false statement. Actualy many of us run dual-boot installs with windows and are often in the same situation that they only have a windows
box to create a linux boot media to migrate someone to windows. And there are many cases where someone got pointed to windows tools
to do the job in this forum. So please get your facts straight before you brag about "fanboism" next time.

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Oct 21st, '12, 16:55
by tammerlane
To Ken-Bergen and doktor5000: This post is NOT solved. Even the original poster makes it clear. tom gives some tips on possible solutions and workarounds. And then isadora says to mark the post SOLVED, which it was not (IT was even difficult to figure out how to do that - and no one in the forum sayed how to mark the post solved. once again you guys expected the reader to figure it out.) . And then tom says to file a bug report - the most helpful suggestion so far. Of course you expected the reader to figure out how to do this. Xtigyro says "either of the methods worked for me.
Rufus does not boot the system. The same with the Fedora tool. The same with: the "Universal-USB-Installer", "LinuxLive USB Creator", "Unetbootin".

"Mandriva-seed" does not find any plugged usb stick (Windows 7, 32-bit) even if the compatability mode for Win XP is used.

And I do not have any DVD/CD-ROM." Does that sound SOLVED?

Then tom starts talking about the md5 sum - hey since you aren't going to help anyway why not blame it on the reader, perhaps implying that the reader is to stupid to figure out how to check if it was a good download. I addressed these issues in February. At that time I pointed out that there was little interest in helping Windows users. There is no elegant GUI method to create usb installations of Mageia, only primitive workarounds and pretend solutions. Issues like this are why Windows users have little interest in Linux, relegating it to a small niche in the computer world - primitive and not ready for prime time.

Re: [SOLVED] Create live usb-stick from Windows ?

PostPosted: Oct 21st, '12, 18:57
by Latte
tammerlane wrote:And then isadora says to mark the post SOLVED, which it was not (IT was even difficult to figure out how to do that - and no one in the forum sayed how to mark the post solved. once again you guys expected the reader to figure it out.) .
isadora wrote:Would you mind marking the topic solved?
You can do so by editing the title in the first post.Pre-fix the title with [SOLVED].


tammerlane wrote:And then tom says to file a bug report - the most helpful suggestion so far. Of course you expected the reader to figure out how to do this
tom wrote:if you want to help the disto, you could also open a bug report following these guidelines describing what you saw


I'm sorry, but did you read all posts and follow the links? If it's still not clear how to report a bug (after reading the linked how-to), then of course you can ask for assistance and I don't think you won't get any further help.

BTW: did you follow the linked bug-report and the tried the dd.exe David described in the bug report?