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Greetings all
Booted my PC up earlier, went into Dolphin to move some files from the back up external drive to the HDD. Problem is my external backup is not showing up? Where would I start to look for a reason for this?
Regards

plug in the drive, then in a terminal

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su
mount
dmesg
tail -n 50 /var/log/syslog

mount will show currently mounted drives
dmesg will show if the drive was detected and its device number
syslog will show if it got mounted or if an error was detected

Hi
Tried the commands you have suggested. Would have posted them, but too many characters. Having gone through everything I cannot see the ext HDD anywhere.

What else would you suggest?

Regards

Leave out the full output of the "dmesg" command, but post the rest.

SAlineBoy wrote:Hi
Tried the commands you have suggested. Would have posted them, but too many characters. Having gone through everything I cannot see the ext HDD anywhere.

What else would you suggest?

Regards

You haven't said what type of external HDD it is - USB? - Network? - or what?

After plugging in my external USB HDD, the last line of output from mount is this:

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/dev/sdc1 on /media/BackUps_ type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096)

Do you see anything resembling that.

Hi
Drive is a USB Fujitsu Siemens Storagebird

Result of "Mount" is:

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/dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered)
[...]
/dev/sdb6 on /var type ext4 (rw,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered)
/dev/sdb5 on /tmp type ext4 (rw,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered)
/dev/sda6 on /home type ext2 (rw,relatime,errors=continue,user_xattr,acl)
usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,relatime,devgid=43,devmode=664)

Syslog:

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Aug 19 10:20:34 localhost rtkit-daemon[1980]: Supervising 4 threads of 2 processes of 1 users.
Aug 19 10:20:34 localhost pulseaudio[2509]: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
Aug 19 10:20:34 localhost net_applet[2514]: ### Program is starting ###
Aug 19 10:20:34 localhost mgaapplet[2517]: ### Program is starting ###
Aug 19 10:20:37 localhost dbus-daemon[803]: dbus[803]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.ColorManager' unit='colord.service'
Aug 19 10:20:37 localhost dbus[803]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.ColorManager' unit='colord.service'
Aug 19 10:20:38 localhost dbus-daemon[803]: dbus[803]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.ColorManager'
Aug 19 10:20:38 localhost dbus[803]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.ColorManager'
Aug 19 10:20:39 localhost mgaapplet[2517]: running: ionice -p 2517 -n7
Aug 19 10:20:41 localhost kernel: [   58.086543] IT8718 SuperIO detected.
Aug 19 10:20:41 localhost kernel: [   58.088629] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver
Aug 19 10:20:41 localhost kernel: [   58.090547] ppdev0: no associated port!
Aug 19 10:20:42 localhost MageiaUpdate[2593]: ### Program is starting ###
Aug 19 10:20:53 localhost MageiaUpdate[2593]: opening the RPM database
Aug 19 10:21:02 localhost MageiaUpdate[2593]: opening the RPM database
Aug 19 10:22:44 localhost MageiaUpdate: transaction on / (remove=0, install=0, upgrade=2)
Aug 19 10:22:53 localhost MageiaUpdate[2593]: [RPM] usbmuxd-1.0.7-2.2.mga2.i586 installed
Aug 19 10:22:53 localhost MageiaUpdate[2593]: [RPM] libusbmuxd1-1.0.7-2.2.mga2.i586 installed
Aug 19 10:22:54 localhost MageiaUpdate[2593]: [RPM] usbmuxd-1.0.7-2.mga2.i586 removed
Aug 19 10:22:55 localhost MageiaUpdate[2593]: [RPM] libusbmuxd1-1.0.7-2.mga2.i586 removed
Aug 19 10:22:57 localhost MageiaUpdate[2593]: running: rpm -ql libusbmuxd1-1.0.7-2.2.mga2
Aug 19 10:22:57 localhost MageiaUpdate[2593]: running: rpm -ql usbmuxd-1.0.7-2.2.mga2
Aug 19 10:22:58 localhost MageiaUpdate[2593]: opening the RPM database
Aug 19 10:25:26 localhost udisksd[2085]: Error opening /etc/crypttab file: Failed to open file '/etc/crypttab': No such file or directory (g-file-error-quark, 4)
Aug 19 10:25:40 localhost mgaapplet[2517]: trying distributions list from https://releases.mageia.org/api/a/i586?product=Default&version=2&mgaonline_version=2.77.33
Aug 19 10:25:41 localhost mgaapplet[2517]: Computing new updates...
Aug 19 10:25:41 localhost mgaapplet[2517]: running: urpmi.update --update
Aug 19 10:25:54 localhost mgaapplet[2517]: updating inactive backport media Core Backports Testing (distrib9), Nonfree Backports Testing (distrib19), Tainted Backports Testing (distrib29), Core Backports (distrib37), Core Backports Testing (distrib39), Nonfree Backports (distrib47), Nonfree Backports Testing (distrib49), Tainted Backports Testing (distrib59)
Aug 19 10:25:54 localhost mgaapplet[2517]: running: urpmi.update Core Backports Testing (distrib9)
Aug 19 10:25:57 localhost mgaapplet[2517]: running: urpmi.update Nonfree Backports Testing (distrib19)
Aug 19 10:26:00 localhost mgaapplet[2517]: running: urpmi.update Tainted Backports Testing (distrib29)
Aug 19 10:26:02 localhost mgaapplet[2517]: running: urpmi.update Core Backports (distrib37)
Aug 19 10:26:04 localhost mgaapplet[2517]: running: urpmi.update Core Backports Testing (distrib39)
Aug 19 10:26:06 localhost mgaapplet[2517]: running: urpmi.update Nonfree Backports (distrib47)
Aug 19 10:26:08 localhost mgaapplet[2517]: running: urpmi.update Nonfree Backports Testing (distrib49)
Aug 19 10:26:10 localhost mgaapplet[2517]: running: urpmi.update Tainted Backports Testing (distrib59)
Aug 19 10:26:20 localhost mgaapplet[2517]: Packages are up to date
Aug 19 10:39:01 localhost /USR/SBIN/CROND[5029]: (root) CMD ([ -d /var/lib/php ] && find /var/lib/php/ -type f -depth -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -mmin +$(/usr/lib/php/maxlifetime) -print0 | xargs -r -0 rm)
Aug 19 10:40:05 localhost sensord: Chip: nouveau-pci-0100
Aug 19 10:40:05 localhost sensord: Adapter: PCI adapter
Aug 19 10:40:05 localhost sensord:   temp1: 66.0 C
Aug 19 10:40:05 localhost sensord: Chip: acpitz-virtual-0
Aug 19 10:40:05 localhost sensord: Adapter: Virtual device
Aug 19 10:40:05 localhost sensord:   temp1: 40.0 C
Aug 19 10:50:08 localhost smartd[653]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel changed from 77 to 61
Aug 19 10:50:08 localhost smartd[653]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 23 to 39
Aug 19 10:50:08 localhost smartd[653]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered changed from 88 to 71
Aug 19 10:50:08 localhost smartd[653]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel changed from 77 to 61
Aug 19 10:50:08 localhost smartd[653]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 23 to 39
Aug 19 10:50:08 localhost smartd[653]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered changed from 62 to 54

Regards

Unfortunately the latter doesn't have the required output, or you did it too long after pluggin the drive.

Please do the following:

• 1. unplug the drive
• 2. open a terminal, as root do tailf /var/log/messages
• 3. plug the drive, wait half a minute
• 4. post the newly added output from the terminal here

And please use code tags next time: ftp://ftp.mandrivauser.de/rpm/rpm/extra ... e_tags.ogv

Aug 19 17:18:56 localhost kernel: [25153.074759] chrome[2656]: segfault at 6 ip 00000006 sp bff8b34c error 4 in SYSV00000000 (deleted)[7de8d000+425000]
Aug 19 17:20:06 localhost sensord: Chip: nouveau-pci-0100
Aug 19 17:20:06 localhost sensord: Adapter: PCI adapter
Aug 19 17:20:06 localhost sensord: temp1: 71.0 C
Aug 19 17:20:06 localhost sensord: Chip: acpitz-virtual-0
Aug 19 17:20:06 localhost sensord: Adapter: Virtual device
Aug 19 17:20:06 localhost sensord: temp1: 40.0 C
Aug 19 17:20:08 localhost smartd[653]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel changed from 57 to 56
Aug 19 17:20:08 localhost smartd[653]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 43 to 44
Aug 19 17:20:08 localhost smartd[653]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered changed from 50 to 51

What are code tags?

Regards

SAlineBoy, click the link doktor5000 provided.
It is presenting you a screencast explaining all about the use of code-tags.

.....clicking on the link just refreshes the page.......

Under which browser?

Apart from that, if you did exactly as i described, seems your computer is not detecting the external harddrive at all.
Are you sure it is correctly powered on and not in any powersaving mode? Did you try a different USB port? Can you try to connect another USB device, like a mouse or usb stick in the ports you tried? Does the harddrive work correctly when attached to another computer or operating system?

Hi
Chomium browser

Drive is powered up, not in powersaving mode, I can hear it humming, tried in all ports, all other devices work in all ports, unable to check in another pc.

Up until last night it was working. It sounds like it is trying to seek.

When was the last time you powered it on?

This morning, just before I powered the pc up

Well as you didn't access it in the meantime, why not unplug it from the computer and try to power it off and back up again, and then plug it in?

powered down pc, unplugged power and usb from external HDD. powered up pc, reconnected hdd and powered it up. Still not detected.

Must leave now. I will resume tomorrow am.
God bless

Powered up pc and external drive this morning. Both now working.

While I am delighted that all now works, I would still be interested to know what happened. As this is our back up drive, it is important to us to know it's reliable.

I may just bite the bullet and buy a new one, but if I could save myself some money all the better.

Anyone any ideas or opinions?

Yep, run gsmartcontrol over it and post the results here.

For reliable hard drives, i'd personally only recommend Western Digital, and only the Caviar Black ones as those get you 5 years warranty.
And if you use it as backup drive, bite the bullet and get a NAS which allows for a RAID 1 at least, so you have at least somee redudancy.
Although that shouldn't be your only backup solution for critical data ...

Many thanks