why kde in mageia 2 still useing a software driver

[almusalimalmusalimah]

hello everyone

i asked this Q so many many times before

but all what i got is (( its cauldron ))

but now there is no excuse

so why kmix still use built-in Audio Analog stereo rather than Intel-HDA

[almusalimalmusalimah]

hey people

i am not joking

this is a critical bug

sometimes when kmix using this driver

there will be no any sound effect come from kcmnotify

and sometimes this problem will be in flash videos in browsers

and some times is in totem or the other media players

so please help

[doktor5000]

What do you mean with software driver? If you don't connect your audio equipment via HDMI, then the Analog Stereo one is the only one which will offer sound.

[almusalimalmusalimah]

What do you mean with software driver? If you don't connect your audio equipment via HDMI, then the Analog Stereo one is the only one which will offer sound.

this built in driver kmix suggested it to use it instead intel-hda

i dont know why

so i go to its configuration panel to change it

then kde give me a message like this

kmix found there is a driver called intel-hda but it will be dropped since its will not be used

so i answered its Q for that decision with no

but its ignore my choice and dropped it and use built in driver instead intel-hda

[doktor5000]

Again: The intel-HDA thing is for HDMI ouput, the other for normal output. I've already wrote that before.
If you change that there will be no sound at all. I'm afraid you've got an understanding problem there ...

[almusalimalmusalimah]

Again: The intel-HDA thing is for HDMI ouput, the other for normal output. I've already wrote that before.
If you change that there will be no sound at all. I'm afraid you've got an understanding problem there ...

then tell me why kde 4.6 in mageia 1 used intel-hda

and kde 4.8 in mageia 2 use this buggy driver

[colin]

There is some confusion here... "Built in Analog Stereo" is like to be your Intel HDA device, it's just called something nicer and more generic rather than a brand name most users don't know.

I also think there is some confusion as kmix does not really suggest anything similar regarding intel-hda nor will it give any pop up messages about devices not being available or falling back to other devices. This is likely something coming from Phonon or some other system, not kmix. So I think in order to be clearer about which components you have the problem with you need to do a few things to show us exactly what you are referring to.

Please:
1. Attach the output of "pacmd ls"
2. Attach screenshots of what you see in the "Playback Devices" tab of kmox.
3. Attach screenshots of the popups your refer to and where you configure things to use Intel HDA.

[almusalimalmusalimah]

you are right ..... it is phonon .. which dropped intel-hda

sorry to confuse you .... and everyone specially you Mr.doktor5000

colin ..... this is the output for pacmd ls

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pacmd ls
Welcome to PulseAudio! Use "help" for usage information.
>>> Memory blocks currently allocated: 3, size: 213.8 KiB.
Memory blocks allocated during the whole lifetime: 456902, size: 1.6 GiB.
Memory blocks imported from other processes: 0, size: 0 B.
Memory blocks exported to other processes: 0, size: 0 B.
Total sample cache size: 86.0 KiB.
Default sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
Default channel map: front-left,front-right
Default sink name: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo
Default source name: alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo
Memory blocks of type POOL: 2 allocated/85638 accumulated.
Memory blocks of type POOL_EXTERNAL: 0 allocated/830 accumulated.
Memory blocks of type APPENDED: 1 allocated/1 accumulated.
Memory blocks of type USER: 0 allocated/0 accumulated.
Memory blocks of type FIXED: 0 allocated/213071 accumulated.
Memory blocks of type IMPORTED: 0 allocated/158192 accumulated.
26 module(s) loaded.
    index: 0
        name: <module-device-restore>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "Automatically restore the volume/mute state of devices"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 1
        name: <module-stream-restore>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "Automatically restore the volume/mute/device state of streams"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 2
        name: <module-card-restore>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "Automatically restore profile of cards"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 3
        name: <module-augment-properties>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "Augment the property sets of streams with additional static information"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 4
        name: <module-alsa-card>
        argument: <device_id="0" name="pci-0000_00_1b.0" card_name="alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0" namereg_fail=false tsched=yes fixed_latency_range=no ignore_dB=no deferred_volume=yes card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1">
        used: 0
        load once: no
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "ALSA Card"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 5
        name: <module-udev-detect>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "Detect available audio hardware and load matching drivers"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 6
        name: <module-bluetooth-discover>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Joao Paulo Rechi Vita"
                module.description = "Detect available bluetooth audio devices and load bluetooth audio drivers"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 7
        name: <module-esound-protocol-unix>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: no
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "ESOUND protocol (UNIX sockets)"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 8
        name: <module-native-protocol-unix>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: no
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "Native protocol (UNIX sockets)"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 9
        name: <module-gconf>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "GConf Adapter"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 10
        name: <module-default-device-restore>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "Automatically restore the default sink and source"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 11
        name: <module-rescue-streams>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "When a sink/source is removed, try to move their streams to the default sink/source"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 12
        name: <module-always-sink>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Colin Guthrie"
                module.description = "Always keeps at least one sink loaded even if it's a null one"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 13
        name: <module-intended-roles>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "Automatically set device of streams based of intended roles of devices"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 14
        name: <module-suspend-on-idle>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "When a sink/source is idle for too long, suspend it"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 15
        name: <module-console-kit>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "Create a client for each ConsoleKit session of this user"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 16
        name: <module-position-event-sounds>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "Position event sounds between L and R depending on the position on screen of the widget triggering them."
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 17
        name: <module-role-cork>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "Mute & cork streams with certain roles while others exist"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 18
        name: <module-filter-heuristics>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Colin Guthrie"
                module.description = "Detect when various filters are desirable"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 19
        name: <module-filter-apply>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Colin Guthrie"
                module.description = "Load filter sinks automatically when needed"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 20
        name: <module-dbus-protocol>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Tanu Kaskinen"
                module.description = "D-Bus interface"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 21
        name: <module-switch-on-port-available>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: no
        properties:

    index: 22
        name: <module-x11-publish>
        argument: <display=:0>
        used: -1
        load once: no
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "X11 credential publisher"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 23
        name: <module-device-manager>
        argument: <do_routing=1>
        used: -1
        load once: yes
        properties:
                module.author = "Colin Guthrie"
                module.description = "Keep track of devices (and their descriptions) both past and present and prioritise by role"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 24
        name: <module-x11-xsmp>
        argument: <display=:0 session_manager=local/localhost.localdomain:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/3376,unix/localhost.localdomain:/tmp/.ICE-unix/3376>
        used: -1
        load once: no
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "X11 session management"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
    index: 25
        name: <module-cli-protocol-unix>
        argument: <>
        used: -1
        load once: no
        properties:
                module.author = "Lennart Poettering"
                module.description = "Command line interface protocol (UNIX sockets)"
                module.version = "2.0.0-1.mga2"
1 sink(s) available.
  * index: 0
        name: <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo>
        driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
        flags: HARDWARE HW_MUTE_CTRL HW_VOLUME_CTRL DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY FLAT_VOLUME DYNAMIC_LATENCY
        state: SUSPENDED
        suspend cause: IDLE
        priority: 9959
        volume: 0: 100% 1: 100%
                0: 0.00 dB 1: 0.00 dB
                balance 0.00
        base volume:  96%
                     -1.00 dB
        volume steps: 65537
        muted: no
        current latency: 0.00 ms
        max request: 0 KiB
        max rewind: 0 KiB
        monitor source: 0
        sample spec: s16le 2ch 48000Hz
        channel map: front-left,front-right
                     Stereo
        used by: 0
        linked by: 0
        configured latency: 0.00 ms; range is 0.50 .. 1837.50 ms
        card: 0 <alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0>
        module: 4
        properties:
                alsa.resolution_bits = "16"
                device.api = "alsa"
                device.class = "sound"
                alsa.class = "generic"
                alsa.subclass = "generic-mix"
                alsa.name = "ALC269 Analog"
                alsa.id = "ALC269 Analog"
                alsa.subdevice = "0"
                alsa.subdevice_name = "subdevice #0"
                alsa.device = "0"
                alsa.card = "0"
                alsa.card_name = "HDA Intel"
                alsa.long_card_name = "HDA Intel at 0xf0900000 irq 43"
                alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
                device.bus_path = "pci-0000:00:1b.0"
                sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0"
                device.bus = "pci"
                device.vendor.id = "8086"
                device.vendor.name = "Intel Corporation"
                device.product.name = "5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio"
                device.form_factor = "internal"
                device.string = "front:0"
                device.buffering.buffer_size = "352800"
                device.buffering.fragment_size = "176400"
                device.access_mode = "mmap+timer"
                device.profile.name = "analog-stereo"
                device.profile.description = "Analog Stereo"
                device.description = "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo"
                alsa.mixer_name = "Intel IbexPeak HDMI"
                alsa.components = "HDA:10ec0269,10cf0200,00100004 HDA:80862804,80860101,00100000"
                module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
                device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
        ports:
                analog-output-speaker: Speakers (priority 10000, available: unknown)
                        properties:

                analog-output-headphones: Headphones (priority 9000, available: unknown)
                        properties:

        active port: <analog-output-speaker>
2 source(s) available.
    index: 0
        name: <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo.monitor>
        driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
        flags: DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY DYNAMIC_LATENCY
        state: SUSPENDED
        suspend cause: IDLE
        priority: 1950
        volume: 0: 100% 1: 100%
                0: 0.00 dB 1: 0.00 dB
                balance 0.00
        base volume: 100%
                     0.00 dB
        volume steps: 65537
        muted: no
        current latency: 0.00 ms
        max rewind: 0 KiB
        sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
        channel map: front-left,front-right
                     Stereo
        used by: 0
        linked by: 0
        configured latency: 0.00 ms; range is 0.50 .. 1837.50 ms
        monitor_of: 0
        card: 0 <alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0>
        module: 4
        properties:
                device.description = "Monitor of Built-in Audio Analog Stereo"
                device.class = "monitor"
                alsa.card = "0"
                alsa.card_name = "HDA Intel"
                alsa.long_card_name = "HDA Intel at 0xf0900000 irq 43"
                alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
                device.bus_path = "pci-0000:00:1b.0"
                sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0"
                device.bus = "pci"
                device.vendor.id = "8086"
                device.vendor.name = "Intel Corporation"
                device.product.name = "5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio"
                device.form_factor = "internal"
                device.string = "0"
                module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
                device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
  * index: 1
        name: <alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo>
        driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
        flags: HARDWARE HW_MUTE_CTRL HW_VOLUME_CTRL DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY DYNAMIC_LATENCY
        state: SUSPENDED
        suspend cause: IDLE
        priority: 9959
        volume: 0:  34% 1:  34%
                0: -28.00 dB 1: -28.00 dB
                balance 0.00
        base volume:  33%
                     -29.00 dB
        volume steps: 65537
        muted: no
        current latency: 0.00 ms
        max rewind: 0 KiB
        sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
        channel map: front-left,front-right
                     Stereo
        used by: 0
        linked by: 0
        configured latency: 0.00 ms; range is 0.50 .. 2000.00 ms
        card: 0 <alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0>
        module: 4
        properties:
                alsa.resolution_bits = "16"
                device.api = "alsa"
                device.class = "sound"
                alsa.class = "generic"
                alsa.subclass = "generic-mix"
                alsa.name = "ALC269 Analog"
                alsa.id = "ALC269 Analog"
                alsa.subdevice = "0"
                alsa.subdevice_name = "subdevice #0"
                alsa.device = "0"
                alsa.card = "0"
                alsa.card_name = "HDA Intel"
                alsa.long_card_name = "HDA Intel at 0xf0900000 irq 43"
                alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
                device.bus_path = "pci-0000:00:1b.0"
                sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0"
                device.bus = "pci"
                device.vendor.id = "8086"
                device.vendor.name = "Intel Corporation"
                device.product.name = "5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio"
                device.form_factor = "internal"
                device.string = "front:0"
                device.buffering.buffer_size = "352800"
                device.buffering.fragment_size = "176400"
                device.access_mode = "mmap+timer"
                device.profile.name = "analog-stereo"
                device.profile.description = "Analog Stereo"
                device.description = "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo"
                alsa.mixer_name = "Intel IbexPeak HDMI"
                alsa.components = "HDA:10ec0269,10cf0200,00100004 HDA:80862804,80860101,00100000"
                module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
                device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
        ports:
                analog-input: Analog Input (priority 10000, available: unknown)
                        properties:

                analog-input-microphone: Microphone (priority 8700, available: no)
                        properties:

        active port: <analog-input>
6 client(s) logged in.
    index: 0
        driver: <module-console-kit.c>
        owner module: 15
        properties:
                application.name = "ConsoleKit Session /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session1"
                console-kit.session = "/org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session1"
    index: 4
        driver: <protocol-native.c>
        owner module: 8
        properties:
                application.name = "KMix KDE 4"
                native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client"
                native-protocol.version = "26"
                application.process.id = "3148"
                application.process.user = "mageia"
                application.process.host = "localhost.localdomain"
                application.process.binary = "kdeinit4"
                application.language = "ar_SA.UTF-8"
                window.x11.display = ":0"
                application.process.machine_id = "37f83321243e4937799f1c0200000095"
                application.process.session_id = "37f83321243e4937799f1c0200000095-1338113436.761280-1340480310"
    index: 6
        driver: <protocol-native.c>
        owner module: 8
        properties:
                application.name = "KMix KDE 4"
                native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client"
                native-protocol.version = "26"
                application.process.id = "4640"
                application.process.user = "mageia"
                application.process.host = "localhost.localdomain"
                application.process.binary = "kdeinit4"
                application.language = "ar_SA.UTF-8"
                window.x11.display = ":0"
                application.process.machine_id = "37f83321243e4937799f1c0200000095"
                application.process.session_id = "37f83321243e4937799f1c0200000095-1338113436.761280-1340480310"
    index: 10
        driver: <module-x11-xsmp.c>
        owner module: 24
        properties:
                application.name = "XSMP Session on KDE as 1028c1d320b210000133811346600000033760008"
                xsmp.vendor = "KDE"
                xsmp.client.id = "1028c1d320b210000133811346600000033760008"
    index: 11
        driver: <protocol-native.c>
        owner module: 8
        properties:
                application.name = "libcanberra"
                native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client"
                native-protocol.version = "26"
                application.version = "0.28"
                application.id = "org.freedesktop.libcanberra"
                application.process.id = "3847"
                application.process.user = "mageia"
                application.process.host = "localhost.localdomain"
                application.process.binary = "knotify4"
                application.language = "ar_SA.UTF-8"
                window.x11.display = ":0"
                application.process.machine_id = "37f83321243e4937799f1c0200000095"
                application.process.session_id = "37f83321243e4937799f1c0200000095-1338113436.761280-1340480310"
    index: 268
        driver: <cli.c>
        owner module: 25
        properties:
                application.name = "UNIX socket client"
1 card(s) available.
    index: 0
        name: <alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0>
        driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
        owner module: 4
        properties:
                alsa.card = "0"
                alsa.card_name = "HDA Intel"
                alsa.long_card_name = "HDA Intel at 0xf0900000 irq 43"
                alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
                device.bus_path = "pci-0000:00:1b.0"
                sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0"
                device.bus = "pci"
                device.vendor.id = "8086"
                device.vendor.name = "Intel Corporation"
                device.product.name = "5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio"
                device.form_factor = "internal"
                device.string = "0"
                device.description = "Built-in Audio"
                module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
                device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
        profiles:
                output:analog-stereo: Analog Stereo Output (priority 6000)
                output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo: Analog Stereo Duplex (priority 6060)
                output:hdmi-stereo: Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output (priority 5400)
                output:hdmi-stereo+input:analog-stereo: Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output + Analog Stereo Input (priority 5460)
                output:hdmi-surround: Digital Surround 5.1 (HDMI) Output (priority 300)
                output:hdmi-surround+input:analog-stereo: Digital Surround 5.1 (HDMI) Output + Analog Stereo Input (priority 360)
                input:analog-stereo: Analog Stereo Input (priority 60)
                off: Off (priority 0)
        active profile: <output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo>
        sinks:
                alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo/#0: Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
        sources:
                alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo.monitor/#0: Monitor of Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
                alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo/#1: Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
        ports:
                analog-output-speaker: Speakers (priority 10000, available: unknown)
                        properties:

                analog-output-headphones: Headphones (priority 9000, available: unknown)
                        properties:

                analog-input: Analog Input (priority 10000, available: unknown)
                        properties:

                analog-input-microphone: Microphone (priority 8700, available: no)
                        properties:

                hdmi-output-0: HDMI / DisplayPort (priority 5900, available: no)
                        properties:

0 sink input(s) available.
0 source outputs(s) available.
1 cache entrie(s) available.
    name: <dialog-error>
        index: 0
        sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
        channel map: front-left,front-right
                     Stereo
        length: 88036
        duration: 0.5 s
        volume: n/a
                n/a
                balance 0.00
        lazy: no
        filename: <n/a>
        properties:
                media.role = "event"
                event.description = "Message dialog shown"
                event.id = "dialog-error"
                media.name = "dialog-error"
                media.filename = "/usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/dialog-error.oga"
                application.name = "مشغل الأفلام توتم"
                native-protocol.peer = "UNIX socket client"
                native-protocol.version = "26"
                application.icon_name = "totem"
                window.x11.display = ":0"
                window.x11.screen = "0"
                application.process.id = "23207"
                application.process.user = "mageia"
                application.process.host = "localhost.localdomain"
                application.process.binary = "totem"
                application.language = "ar_SA.UTF-8"
                application.process.machine_id = "37f83321243e4937799f1c0200000095"
                application.process.session_id = "37f83321243e4937799f1c0200000095-1338113436.761280-1340480310">>>

and here is the screenshot

[doktor5000]

sorry to confuse you .... and everyone specially you Mr.doktor5000

No problem with that, i've forwarded your problem to Colin, who's your pulseaudio maintainer and sound guru in general.

[colin]

OK, so this "Built in Analog Stereo" is your intel HDA. If you want to switch to your HDMI you can change profile (you'll have to use the Phonon config in systemsettings to do this).

So can I ask, do you hear sound? You'll obviously have to turn the volume up (it's at 0 just now in your screen shot).