New install - no acces to Mageia Control centre

[James225]

Pleased to say my install this morning went fine with just a minor issue.

All went smoothly although i could not get any sound for Youtube and not able to access the Mageia Control Centre through icon in the Panel. I used the console and ran dnf command line for updates which was fine. Did a 'restart' and was delighted to find i had sound but still no access to the Mageia Control Centre. Obviously my root password is correct as i used it in the terminal.

Previous linux experience has been Xubuntu since 2008 so i always used aptitude on the CLI. Never a fan of apt. As the root password is okay what can i do to get access to the Mageia Control Centre.

[James225]

From what i can deduce it would seem that dnf is in the repos. RPM Drake is what i tried to access with the cog icon in the panel as you can see in my screenshot... i thought that was the graphical version of dnf which it seems is in fact yumex-dnf which i have now installed and is completely different.

I went into the xfce mouse menu looking through all apps and noticed 'Install and Remove software' and added this to the panel. The icon being like the Mageia icon right of the cog icon in my screenshot. When i clicked this i got the root password window up and after entering and clicking authenticate went straight into RPMDrake. So the cog icon does not seem to work. Strangely RPMdrake does not show dnf as installed but yumex-dnf does.

So all sorted but leaves me with the question of which to use. My understanding of package managers with debian distros is one should chose one package manager and stay with that as each build their own database of installed packages. [With debian distros if one uses apt or synaptic and then switch to using aptitude it is known to remove packages 'off it's own bat' where as if used from the start no problems. Aptitude is the best most powerful package manager i have come across... but must be used with care - really a developers tool and not for the everyday user]. As i have used dnf on the terminal i presume i should stay with that rather that using RPMdrake [and presumably its terminal backend is urpmi] which i have not looked at.

Would be grateful if someone could advise.

[morgano]

Welcome to Mageia

Normally on Mageia urpmi is used, if from command line, or launch the graphical drakrpm (alias rpmdrake) from command line.

The main control panel, Mageia Control Center, can be launched from command line as "mcc". It in turn launches applications like rpmdrake.

DNF can be used as package manager - if repositories are configured, and you launch it from command line.
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Using_DNF

[doktor5000]

Please explain further. As i understand the main repos are core and core updates. One only needs to enable tainted and non-free if one wants to use them.

When i used dnf i didn't configure anything... and it seemed to work.

[doktor5000]

You're asking to please explain further, and explain it yourself ... what do you actually want to have explained ?

[James225]

Morgano has said that one has to configure the repos to use DNF but from what i can see one doesn't... i have little technical knowledge and just a linux user.

removed quote. ~Germ

[Germ]

https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Using_DNF

[doktor5000]

Morgano has said that one has to configure the repos to use DNF

No he didn't - he said "if repositories are configured" which is the requirement to use dnf, but that's the same for urpmi.

[morgano]

Sorry for accidentally confusing you.
I am no pro on DNF.

I found now one thing on that wiki page that need to be corrected:

dnf repolist shows last metadata check, the enabled repos and their size. First it downloads any yet not downloaded.

For me it simply list repos.
What is the command (if any) to do what that descrition say?

[doktor5000]

For me it simply list repos.

It would download metadata automatically if it would be out of date (mostly defined by metadata_expire in dnf.conf) but nowadays there's usually dnf-makecache.timer which does this regularly (every hour by default IIRC) so you don't notice that the metadata out of date.

If you would want to update the metadata then that would be dnf makecache - but this basically isn't needed at all anymore these days as dnf would update metadata if necessary when doing dnf search, list, update or something similar.

[James225]

Morgano has said that one has to configure the repos to use DNF

No he didn't - he said "if repositories are configured" which is the requirement to use dnf, but that's the same for urpmi.

I haven't configured DNf but seems to work. But from what in have learnt so far i'll stay with urpmi - did the updates this morning okay.