Virtualbox is only a void stub.

[rampegon]

Hello beautiful people.
I have just installed Mageia on my old laptop (ACER Extensa 7630).
It looks wonderful and well featured.
But! In Software Management the item for installing Virtualbox is only a stub. It does not install anything!
What's the matter? No virtualization? It is not my whim, I need to run a (cursed) windows virtual machine because of my job.
Somebody knows a solution?
Thanks!

[sturmvogel]

https://wiki.mageia.org/en/VirtualBox
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Virtualisation

[doktor5000]

Oh thanks! This is really cool. "On your host, install the virtualbox package, and it will by dependency also pull in the virtualbox-kernel matching the kernel you have installed, and virtualbox-kernel-latest so it gets updated automatically in the future."
I am delighted to know. But HOW can I install the virtualbox package if in Software Management the item for installing Virtualbox is only an empty stub and does not install ANYTHING?

[sturmvogel]

If you have a x86_64 machine and try to install the i586 virtualbox package (or vice versa), no dependencies get pulled. But if you install the correct virtualbox package matching your machine architecture, all dependencies get pulled automticaly. So it looks like you have chosen the virtualbox package for the wrong architecture.

[rampegon]

I understand that I have not explained myself well.





In Software Management two choices of two versions of Virtualbox are presented: 6.1.18 and 6.1.26 (they are the most recent).
It doesn't matter which one you select, the Manager says: 0B selected. And when "Apply" is given, in fact nothing happens. Nothing gets installed. Other programs install correctly and work. This one no.
The Acer Extensa 7630 is a 32-bit vintage machine. Maybe this is the problem: incompatibility with the 32-bit version. It would be nice if there was a notice to say that.

[sturmvogel]

It seems that you don't have setup your repos correctly. For media setup see:
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installing_and_removing_software
and
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Install_media_in_Mageia_for_beginners

If you have enabled the 32 and 64bit repos it looks like this:

Screenshot_20211009_142356.png (147.81 KiB) Viewed 1718 times

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urpmq --list-media active

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lscpu

According to the Virtualbox homepage 32bit Hosts are no longer supported. The support ended with version 5.2 in July 2020.
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

[rampegon]

It seems that you don't have setup your repos correctly. For media setup see:
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installing_and_removing_software
and
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Install_media_in_Mageia_for_beginners

Already done.

If you have enabled the 32 and 64bit repos it looks like this:

Screenshot_20211009_142356.png

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urpmq --list-media active

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lscpu

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[rampegon@localhost ~]$ urpmq --list-media active
Core Release
Core Updates
Core Backports
Nonfree Release
Nonfree Updates
Nonfree Backports
Tainted Updates
Tainted Backports


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[rampegon@localhost ~]$ lscpu
Architecture:                    i686
CPU op-mode(s):                  32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order:                      Little Endian
Address sizes:                   36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
CPU(s):                          2
On-line CPU(s) list:             0,1
Thread(s) per core:              1
Core(s) per socket:              2
Socket(s):                       1
Vendor ID:                       GenuineIntel
CPU family:                      6
Model:                           23
Model name:                      Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T6400  @ 2.0
                                 0GHz
Stepping:                        10
CPU MHz:                         1399.210
CPU max MHz:                     2000,0000
CPU min MHz:                     1200,0000
BogoMIPS:                        3990.03
L1d cache:                       64 KiB
L1i cache:                       64 KiB
L2 cache:                        2 MiB
Vulnerability Itlb multihit:     KVM: Mitigation: VMX unsupported
Vulnerability L1tf:              Mitigation; PTE Inversion
Vulnerability Mds:               Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no
                                  microcode; SMT disabled
Vulnerability Meltdown:          Mitigation; PTI
Vulnerability Spec store bypass: Vulnerable
Vulnerability Spectre v1:        Mitigation; usercopy/swapgs barriers and __
                                 user pointer sanitization
Vulnerability Spectre v2:        Mitigation; Full generic retpoline, STIBP d
                                 isabled, RSB filling
Vulnerability Srbds:             Not affected
Vulnerability Tsx async abort:   Not affected
Flags:                           fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep
                                  mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts ac
                                 pi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht tm pbe nx lm consta
                                 nt_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts cpuid aperfmpe
                                 rf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3
                                 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 xsave lahf_lm pti dth
                                 erm


According to the Virtualbox homepage 32bit Hosts are no longer supported. The support ended with version 5.2 in July 2020.
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

So that's the fact. It is no longer supported.
Thanks for your patience.

[sturmvogel]

Hm, according to the CPU info it provides support for 64bit. So you might try an 64bit installation on this laptop and you would have the possibility to install virtualbox.

[morgano]

Dropping 32 bit is also mentioned in our Release Notes https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_8_Rel ... VirtualBox

[sturmvogel]

So the i586 packages should be dropped. But they are still existing in Cauldron...

[doktor5000]

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[rampegon@localhost ~]$ urpmq --list-media active
Core Release
Core Updates
Core Backports
Nonfree Release
Nonfree Updates
Nonfree Backports
Tainted Updates
Tainted Backports


FWIW, you should disable all the backports repositories. And you're missing Tainted Release. So check the linked documentation in our wiki for how to add a full set of repositories.

[rampegon]

Hm, according to the CPU info it provides support for 64bit. So you might try an 64bit installation on this laptop and you would have the possibility to install virtualbox.

You are right, I reinstalled from the x86-64 version and it works. Virtualbox is available and works. But! in the end I found that the CPU of the laptop does not support hardware virtualization ... so it is not possible to run any virtual machine. Perfect! I'm all over again. I will look for a further solution. Maybe WINE. Heartfelt thanks to everyone for your help. Mageia is a really nice distribution.

[morgano]

Thank you. And welcome to our party

Bummer that CPU...

If you are trying to run a program we do not package, have a look at https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Ways_to_install_programs for some ways.

For wine note the requirement for 32 bit libs - also on 64 bit system - described on that page.

[benmc]

Virtualbox is available and works.

does this mean it installs and runs, or does it mean that something else?

you need to reboot after install of Virtualbox to enable extra kernel modules.
be sure that "Intel Virtualization Technology" is enabled in your BIOS.

to access some peripherals, you also need to add guest additions and oracle extension pack and add your user to the group: vboxusers

[sturmvogel]

be sure that "Intel Virtualization Technology" is enabled in your BIOS.

This processor does not support virtualisation technology:
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/40479/intel-core-2-duo-processor-t6400-2m-cache-2-00-ghz-800-mhz-fsb.html

[benmc]

just found that exact article on line after I posted.

sorry for the noise