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[SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 24th, '20, 23:40
by meinsta
Hello after installing Ruby, then a software for projects named TaskJuggler, then GanttProject,
then a package for some fonts I needed msttcore--fonts-installer-2.6.-1.noarch, then I have shutdown the computer.

When I started it again I got the screen you can see in the attachment.

At this moment, in order to login, I have to start Mageia in Safe mode and then login as root, then logout and login again as my classic user.

Does anyone know how to solve it?

Thank you in advance!

Re: Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 25th, '20, 00:25
by doktor5000
The screenshots don't really show what the underlying issue is, it would be helpful if you could run
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journalctl -ab > /tmp/journal.log
as root and then later attach /tmp/journal.log here.

Re: Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 25th, '20, 06:50
by meinsta
It says "Permission denied" even if I am logged in as root.

Re: Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 25th, '20, 06:56
by meinsta
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# journalctl -ab > /tmp/journal.log

In the attachment there is the file.
Thank you!

Re: Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 25th, '20, 16:59
by doktor5000
It seems like it cannot detect your monitor properly or set the resolution/backlight, this goes on repeatedly from nov 24 23:33:26 until nov 25 03:11:04

It could be an idea to remove existing kscreen configuration below ~/.kde4/share/apps/kscreen and ~/.local/share/kscreen

Apart from that I don't really see an issue.

Re: Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 25th, '20, 22:39
by meinsta
Thank you!
I see now that in the task bar, in the right, there is an icon that wasn't there before. It sais "Software Renderer In Use"

Re: [SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 27th, '20, 20:26
by meinsta
Anyway, at the moment it is quite inconvenient that in order to start Mageia as normal user I have to chose Safe Mode, then i have to swich from root to normal user, but it work only in Safe Mode.
Do I have to reinstall Mageia? Or do you know any other soultion?
Thank you in advance!

Re: [SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 27th, '20, 22:16
by JoesCat
Hi meinsta,
Go into Mageia Control Center, and select "Hardware(left screen)->"Set up Graphical Server(right screen)"
The graphical card default may be for an incorrect card.
Choose Xorg->vesa as your graphical card. This is an old standard, but should work fine. Just lacks some of the GPU niceties that you would get out of a GPU.
Watch for any updates that are graphics related, as you may need to reset this again before next boot.

I'm testing out Mageia8, and since my video card is no longer supported by Nvidia, the suggested card that appears is wrong.
This was the recommendation (from mageia6->7). Choose Xorg->vesa.

Hope this helps.

Re: [SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 28th, '20, 00:00
by meinsta
Hi @JoesCat,
I did what you have suggested above and then I pressed Test button. And I got this:
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An error occurred:
(EE)
Fatal server error:

Try to change some parameters


I have to mention that it is Intel now, but I have Nvidia (hardware). But last time when I tried to set this up, my laptop didn't start in graphical mode at all. That wasn't nice :)

Re: [SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 28th, '20, 01:20
by JoesCat
I get the same error message if I use the Test button to.
My current hardware is the NV42GL [Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI] which lost support somewhere between Mageia6 going to Mageia7 - it's an old card, and as someone suggested (on another forum), think about upgrading the PC vs upgrading the video card = LOL

I also get the same "Test" message if I press "Test" too.
It may seem a little odd at first to see Intel, but VESA is an older standard.

Where you may see differences in VESA vs NVidea are graphics intensive stuff like Video, where the CPU does the work, not the GPU

Re: [SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 28th, '20, 01:22
by JoesCat
If you had trouble with GRUB in graphical mode, then you may want to set bootup to run in text mode before trying this.

Re: [SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 28th, '20, 01:38
by meinsta
Thank you very much for your feedback!
I will apply your suggestion then I will give here the feedback.
:)

Re: [SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 28th, '20, 03:07
by JoesCat
In terms of older and legacy drivers, it may not be worth trying to load older drivers, for example the NVidia 304 I would have preferred for Mageia8 would likely run into problems and require me to then downgrade from XOrg 1.20.9 backwards to XOrg 1.18, which in turn would require downgrading other stuff to be compatible with 1.18 - in the long run, after downgrading all sorts of packages, I'd be at an older version and missing-out on the new-and-improved.

Xorg-fbdev is a backup choice in case Xorg-vesa does not work for you: https://doc.mageia.org/mcc/3/en/content/XFdrake.html
Note
In case of problems, Xorg - Vesa will work with most graphic cards and give you time to find and install the right driver while in your Desktop Environment.
If even Vesa doesn't work, choose Xorg - fbdev, which is used while installing Mageia, but doesn't allow you to change resolution or refresh rates.

Re: [SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 28th, '20, 05:53
by meinsta
I have a Nvidia GeForce GTX 960M

Re: [SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 28th, '20, 06:41
by JoesCat
You have a very recent video card.
Based on that - You are better-off discarding my suggestions (old hardware) and to be following Doctor 5000 directions (new hardware - maybe needing further debugging).

Re: Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 28th, '20, 07:35
by meinsta
doktor5000 wrote:It seems like it cannot detect your monitor properly or set the resolution/backlight, this goes on repeatedly from nov 24 23:33:26 until nov 25 03:11:04

It could be an idea to remove existing kscreen configuration below ~/.kde4/share/apps/kscreen and ~/.local/share/kscreen

Apart from that I don't really see an issue.


I searched for kscreen but it seems that I do not have such directory. What I foud is usr/share/kde4/apps/kconf_update

Re: [SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 28th, '20, 11:11
by JoesCat
Probably a typo :-)

Early versions of kde used ~/.kde
Then kde4 used ~/.kde4
Currently kde5 uses ~/.kde for config and ~/.local for data

If you are running/testing Mageia8 you'll see kscreen here:
ls -l ~/.local/share/

Earlier versions running kde4 you'll see kscreen likely here:
ls -l ~kde4/share/apps/

Assuming you have kde5, you may want to backup first, then remove:
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cd ~/.local/share
cp -pR kscreen kscreen_backup
rm -R kscreen/*


If you have space to install an alternate desktop, such as xfce, it gives you an alternative non-plasma desktop if you run into problems.

Re: [SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 28th, '20, 14:55
by banjo
I believe that IceWM is installed by default on Mageia for this purpose. Look for it as an option on the login screen.

https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Desktop_environments

Re: [SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 28th, '20, 20:42
by meinsta
Yes. Ice is installed. I hope to get to it because now it stops before getting to the screen where you can choose the screen.
I will tell you after I will remove the folder kscreen.

Re: [SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 28th, '20, 23:04
by banjo
Are you saying that sddm is not displaying the login screen, or that Grub2 will not run at all?

Re: [SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 29th, '20, 03:19
by meinsta
JoesCat wrote:Hi meinsta,
Go into Mageia Control Center, and select "Hardware(left screen)->"Set up Graphical Server(right screen)"
The graphical card default may be for an incorrect card.
Choose Xorg->vesa as your graphical card. This is an old standard, but should work fine. Just lacks some of the GPU niceties that you would get out of a GPU.
Watch for any updates that are graphics related, as you may need to reset this again before next boot.

I'm testing out Mageia8, and since my video card is no longer supported by Nvidia, the suggested card that appears is wrong.
This was the recommendation (from mageia6->7). Choose Xorg->vesa.

Hope this helps.

I did that and now startx command doesn't work anymore. Can anyone help please? :)
Thank you in advance!

Re: [SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 29th, '20, 05:34
by banjo
A similar thing happened to me a while back, and the problem was a bad Nvidia driver plus some kernel parameters that were not correct.

Take a look at that thread and see if you can try anything in it.

https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=13640

What graphics driver is it using? Nouveau? You can find that in the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf. It looks like a graphics driver issue.

Re: [SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 29th, '20, 18:55
by meinsta
The first 3/8 files containing the errors (in red).
I will put here the other errors also.

Re: [SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 29th, '20, 18:57
by meinsta
The files with errors (4 to 6) from 8 files.

Re: [SOLVED] Started Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen

PostPosted: Nov 29th, '20, 18:58
by meinsta
The last (7 and 8) from 8 files with errors.