[work-around] latest kernel will not boot

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[work-around] latest kernel will not boot

Postby nwtmg » Aug 29th, '20, 11:34

Hi,

From the latest upgrade I cannot boot. I am now using

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 uname -a

Linux localhost 5.1.14-desktop586-1.mga7 #1 SMP Sat Jun 22 10:29:41 UTC 2019 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux


The previous upgrade would not boot but I thought the problem would be resolved in the next upgrade.

Laptop is old toshiba with 2 gig ram.

Thanks.
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Re: latest kernel will not boot

Postby doktor5000 » Aug 29th, '20, 11:56

5.1.14 is far from the latest upgrade, it was the kernel that Mageia 7 released with initially.

Would you also mind to share some more specific information, like about the hardware in that old laptop.
Or how far it actually boots, does it load the bootloader, does it try to load the initrd, does it load the actual installed system, and how far and what is the last message you see.

Also, did you try to simply reinstall the latest kernel, maybe you simply had a bad download.
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Re: latest kernel will not boot

Postby nwtmg » Aug 29th, '20, 18:16

From

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lspci

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub (rev 07)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
00:1a.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03)
00:1a.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 03)
00:1a.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 93)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M LPC Interface Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801IBM/IEM (ICH9M/ICH9M-E) 4 port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8040T PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (rev 12)
0a:01.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): O2 Micro, Inc. Firewire (IEEE 1394) (rev 02)
0a:01.2 SD Host controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Integrated MMC/SD Controller (rev 02)
0a:01.3 Mass storage controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Integrated MS/xD Controller (rev 01)


Grub2 loads then I select the top entry. Goes to blank screen without cursor then cursor appears and then the screen is frozen. I then have to hard boot.
Let me know of any other commands to try. Thanks.
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Re: latest kernel will not boot

Postby doktor5000 » Aug 29th, '20, 18:53

doktor5000 wrote:Also, did you try to simply reinstall the latest kernel, maybe you simply had a bad download.

Could help you with the command but you didn't share what kernels you currently have installed
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rpm -qa|grep kernel|sort

Also, which is the most recent kernel that still boots and which is the first one that doesn't boot anymore ?
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Re: latest kernel will not boot

Postby benmc » Aug 29th, '20, 22:45

can you edit the grub kernel parameter and remove
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splash quiet


I have one spare machine that requires this,
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Re: latest kernel will not boot

Postby nwtmg » Aug 30th, '20, 12:08

Reinstalled the latest kernel.

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rpm -qa|grep kernel|sort

kernel-desktop586-5.1.14-1.mga7-1-1.mga7
kernel-desktop586-5.6.14-2.mga7-1-1.mga7
kernel-desktop586-5.7.14-1.mga7-1-1.mga7
kernel-desktop586-latest-5.7.14-1.mga7
kernel-firmware-20190603-1.mga7
kernel-firmware-nonfree-20200817-1.mga7.nonfree
kernel-userspace-headers-5.7.14-1.mga7
virtualbox-kernel-5.1.14-desktop586-1.mga7-6.0.8-22.mga7
virtualbox-kernel-5.6.14-desktop586-2.mga7-6.0.24-1.mga7
virtualbox-kernel-5.7.14-desktop586-1.mga7-6.0.24-4.mga7
virtualbox-kernel-desktop586-latest-6.0.24-4.mga7



both
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kernel-desktop586-5.6.14-2.mga7-1-1.mga7
kernel-desktop586-5.7.14-1.mga7-1-1.mga7

will not boot. The only bootable one is kernel-desktop586-5.1.14-1.mga7-1-1.mga7 .
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Re: latest kernel will not boot

Postby nwtmg » Aug 30th, '20, 12:33

Removed splash quiet and successful boot. With splash quiet in place no boot. If I have to make that change permanent that would be no problem. How do I do it.

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uname -a

Linux localhost 5.7.14-desktop586-1.mga7 #1 SMP Fri Aug 7 14:46:00 UTC 2020 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
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Re: latest kernel will not boot

Postby nwtmg » Aug 30th, '20, 13:11

Made the above change using the Mageia control panel in the Boot section.. Should I mark this solved?
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Re: latest kernel will not boot

Postby benmc » Aug 30th, '20, 22:30

nwtmg wrote:Should I mark this solved?


good question.
not really a fix, as you will likely need to redo for every kernel update, so make a note to self.

better to mark as a [work-around], so that at least anyone else with the issue can find a temporary fix to get them going.
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Re: latest kernel will not boot

Postby Erik » Aug 31st, '20, 09:52

I got the same problem last friday when I updated my installation having returned from vacation. The system information is:

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System:    Kernel: 5.4.0-42-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.3.0 Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2
           tk: Gtk 3.24.13 wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM Distro: Linux Mint 20 Ulyana
           base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: H81M-HDS serial: <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends
           v: P1.90 date: 07/02/2014
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Pentium G3220 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Haswell rev: 3
           L2 cache: 3072 KiB
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 11995
           Speed: 2999 MHz min/max: 800/3000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2999 2: 2999
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics
           vendor: ASRock driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0402
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.8 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
           resolution: 1280x1024~60Hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (HSW GT1) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.0.8 compat-v: 3.0
           direct render: Yes
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio vendor: ASRock
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:8c20
           Device-2: Logitech Webcam C310 type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo bus ID: 3-2:2
           chip ID: 046d:081b
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-42-generic
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: ASRock
           driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8168
           IF: enp2s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 1.14 TiB used: 371.46 GiB (31.7%)
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: DT01ACA100 size: 931.51 GiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s
           serial: <filter>
           ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: A-Data model: SP900 size: 238.47 GiB speed: 3.0 Gb/s
           serial: <filter>
Partition: ID-1: / size: 47.42 GiB used: 12.01 GiB (25.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5
           ID-2: /home size: 816.43 GiB used: 359.45 GiB (44.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 3.91 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5
           ID-4: swap-2 size: 4.04 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
USB:       Hub: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 2.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0002
           Hub: 1-1:2 info: Intel ports: 4 rev: 2.0 chip ID: 8087:8008
           Hub: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 2.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0002
           Hub: 2-1:2 info: Intel ports: 6 rev: 2.0 chip ID: 8087:8000
           Hub: 3-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 10 rev: 2.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0002
           Device-1: 3-2:2 info: Logitech Webcam C310 type: Video,Audio
           driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo rev: 2.0 chip ID: 046d:081b
           Device-2: 3-3:3 info: Brother Industries DCP-J152W type: Printer driver: usblp rev: 2.0
           chip ID: 04f9:02df
           Device-3: 3-5:4 info: Brother Industries HL-2130 series type: Printer driver: usblp
           rev: 2.0 chip ID: 04f9:003f
           Device-4: 3-9:5 info: Alcor Micro Multi Flash Reader type: Mass Storage
           driver: usb-storage rev: 2.0 chip ID: 058f:6366
           Hub: 4-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 3.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0003
           Hub: 5-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 2.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0002
           Device-5: 5-2:2 info: Cambridge Silicon Radio Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
           type: Bluetooth driver: btusb rev: 2.0 chip ID: 0a12:0001
           Hub: 6-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 3.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0003
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 36.0 C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A

Info:      Processes: 204 Uptime: 5m Memory: 3.53 GiB used: 1.10 GiB (31.1%) Init: systemd v: 245
           runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 9.3.0 alt: 9 Client: Unknown python3.8 client inxi: 3.0.38


The booting process stopped after logging in. This suggested to me that some plasma file had got corrupted. So I removed all plasma related files and began again. This did not help. So I made a new installation. Linux Mint this time, because that was the only system I had got on a USB stick. Later I remembered that Mageia starts up with the option of a recovery mode. (Never used this in all sixteen years of using Mandrake/Mandriva/Mageia.) I started up with the kernel before the newest. Everything worked flawalessly as ever. So I removed the latest kernel and "kernel-latest". No problem at all.

I hope this information is useful to those who understand the workings of the Mageia Kernel.

Greetings

Erik
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Re: [work-around] latest kernel will not boot

Postby nwtmg » Aug 31st, '20, 14:37

Sounds similar. Next time you boot press the e key and when the text appears look for splash quiet. Remove that text and press cntrl x. Your system should boot. Let me know. Thanks.
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Re: [work-around] latest kernel will not boot

Postby Erik » Aug 31st, '20, 16:53

In order to do this experiment I reinstalled kernel 5.7.14 with kernel-latest. Immediately after this I go a kernel update tot 5.7.19. Both crashed after the login sound. The removal of "splash quiet" on booting did not help with each kernel. The only way to boot and login successfuly is to use a 5.6.x kernel.

Does this help you?

Greetings

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Re: latest kernel will not boot

Postby doktor5000 » Aug 31st, '20, 16:59

Erik wrote:I got the same problem
[...]
The booting process stopped after logging in.

That's not the same problem at all. Please create a separate thread for your issue.
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