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Mageia Installation Without ICEwm

PostPosted: Nov 11th, '19, 22:27
by hardrock
Hi all:

I am new to Mageia. I love the system but I have a problem. I have installed the software many times

and still can't find a way to install it without the ICEwm Desktop. All I want is the Plasma Desktop and

nothing else. Does anyone out there know how to do this. I am sick of Ubuntu and want to use Mageia.

Thanks for your time.

Re: Mageia Installation Without ICEwm

PostPosted: Nov 12th, '19, 14:34
by doktor5000
Hi there, I don't really understand why you want to do this? If you only want to use Plasma, then IceWM is not really getting in your way, it's just there as a failsafe and installed by default.
You can just uninstall it later on if you really don't want to have it installed, but in case Plasma may have an issue then you don't have a fallback desktop, you should be aware about that.

Re: Mageia Installation Without ICEwm

PostPosted: Nov 12th, '19, 15:36
by hardrock
Hi doktor5000:
Thanks for your quick reply.
I would like for you to tell me how to delete ICEwm without messing up the Plasma.
It uses up my too much disk space. All I want is Plasma, nothing else.
I don't have any disk space to spare.
I usually back up my complete system. If I have a problem I can restore my system in a flash. Not a problem.
Mageia is a very nice system. It is somewhat different from Ubuntu, but I want to learn to use it.
Thanks again for your reply. Have a great day!

Re: Mageia Installation Without ICEwm

PostPosted: Nov 12th, '19, 17:08
by doktor5000
Well, if you don't have disk space to spare, the removal of IceWM won't help that much, it will only save you 4MB.

Also this sounds like a typical X-Y problem. Maybe it would have been better if you asked in the first place how to free up space.
Please show the output as root of
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du -mx / | sort -rn | head -50

as this shows what directory in the / filesystem uses up what space.

Also please show the output of
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rpm -qa --queryformat '%{size} %{name}\n' | sort -rn | head -50

which will show the 50 biggest installed packages. This is a good starting point to check some of those at the top of the list, as they provide the most potential for disk space savings.


FWIW, removal of icewm would look like that:

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urpme -a icewm
To satisfy dependencies, the following 3 packages will be removed (4MB):
  icewm-i18n-1.5.4-2.mga7.noarch
  icewm-light-1.5.4-2.mga7.i586
   (due to missing icewm-theme-oxygen-aya)
  icewm-theme-oxygen-aya-0.1-12.mga7.noarch
Remove 3 packages? (y/N)

Re: Mageia Installation Without ICEwm

PostPosted: Nov 13th, '19, 15:47
by hardrock
Sorry it took so long to get back to you.
I spent yesterday loading the complete system back in from scratch.
This took a few hours to do, for the 6th time.
Thanks for the info on removing ICEwm, Glad it is gone.
After I reloaded the system I decided to back it all up on a thumb drive.
I noticed it was taking along time to back up 300,000 files.
My back up program was going crazy migrating through all the unused space between all the partitions.
The drive was chopped up with many different partitions.
Should have been only 2. Next time I will try the custom feature when installing.
Also, is there a way to get rid of the first login screen and go directly to the user screen?
This is a great system. With a few tweaks it could be the best Linux version out there.
Hopefully the developers will continue their great work and make that happen!

Re: Mageia Installation Without ICEwm

PostPosted: Nov 13th, '19, 20:36
by hardrock
Here is what you wanted me to post:

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[root@localhost scott]# rpm -qa --queryformat '%{size} %{name}\n' | sort -rn | head -50
320037047 kernel-firmware-nonfree
275379498 libreoffice-core
191463587 compiler-rt
189204642 firefox
172629577 thunderbird
143124028 digikam
123039596 fonts-otf-source-han
122659176 lib64opal3.16.2
116541866 iwlwifi-firmware
112159432 lib64qt5webenginecore5
107884822 java-1.8.0-openjdk-headless
96972777 gimp
80299616 mariadb-common
75248893 CAV_LINUX
71675234 kernel-desktop-5.3.7-4.mga7
71221937 lib64clang8.0
70330239 kernel-desktop-5.1.14-1.mga7
63587504 libdri-drivers
63411332 libllvm8.0
59845932 foomatic-db
59254839 mariadb-client
59171696 lib64dri-drivers
57903711 breeze-icons
57744456 lib64llvm8.0
57016678 gcc
56707666 geoip-database
51970545 perl
51446265 libpinyin-data
46598880 kernel-desktop-devel-5.3.7-4.mga7
46170992 lib64qt5webkit5
46046329 kernel-desktop-devel-5.1.14-1.mga7
45854318 anthy
44955248 lib64webkit2gtk4.0_37
41918056 webkit2-plugin-process-gtk2
39938209 vlc
39819722 hugin
37338982 radeon-firmware
34299090 ibus
32304913 oxygen-icons5
31465716 libreoffice-calc
30867167 k3b
30436310 glibc
29310190 lib64python3.7-stdlib
28543064 lib64gtk+2.0-devel
28188598 marble-handbook
28186242 plasma-desktop
27597600 codeblocks
27179840 icu63-data
27059066 gcc-c++
26943792 lib64flite1

Re: Mageia Installation Without ICEwm

PostPosted: Nov 14th, '19, 13:09
by doktor5000
hardrock wrote:Also, is there a way to get rid of the first login screen and go directly to the user screen?


You mean autologin into your desktop session? Sure, but you would need to mention what login manager you're using currently.
If you still use a regular Plasma installation, then it should be sddm - for that have a look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SDDM#Autologin

Re: Mageia Installation Without ICEwm

PostPosted: Nov 14th, '19, 22:43
by magic
Usually the "Set up autologin to automatically log in" option in the Boot section of the control center works quite well too (on a normal setup anyway).