Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

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Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby lloyd » Oct 3rd, '17, 18:14

I have Mageia 6 with K3B V 2.10.0. I have burned several 25G Blu-ray (BD-R) discs with it, which seems fine (they are my data files) However, if I try to make a copy of the disc (using K3B's COPY function), all I get is an error saying "unsupported media type". If I can burn them, why can't I copy them?
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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby wintpe » Oct 4th, '17, 14:28

So you are saying you cant copy disks that you have burned.

if thats correct, that does not seem right.

if you were trying to copy commercial that would be a prob as there are other factors.

did it get anywhere , and was the error after a while.

or was it immediately.

my thinking is has k3b run out of temporary space to copy, or does it just not see the device.

otherwise you may have been the first to try this.

I have a blueray writer at home, i can try this later to see if its also a problem.

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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby lloyd » Oct 4th, '17, 17:21

That's exactly what I'm saying. The error comes up immediately. I CAN copy a commercial disk (a Blu-ray movie - at least the one I tried) with no problem. I change the temporary directory (for the ISO file) to one that I know has tons of free space. I just tried something out. I have about 12 BD-R discs. 11 out of the 12 (when I click on "USE THE SAME DEVICE FOR BURNING") comes up with the message "APPENDABLE DATA ERROR". The one that actually DOES work (I seem to remember it did crash once (I think it was either mkisofs or genisofs that crashed). That (I think) is the disc that actually works (it IS copyable) Clicking on "USE THE SAME DEVICE FOR BURNING" says "APPENDABLE DATA BD-R". So, I'm thinking it's possibly a bug in one of these files, or possibly K3B itself.
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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby wintpe » Oct 5th, '17, 11:17

OK if i get a chance ill try and test it. If not if anyone else out there has a chance to verify this as an issue and not lloyd's hardware then please have a go.

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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby lloyd » Oct 12th, '17, 16:57

Ok, I've determined definitely that it is NOT my hardware. I tried burning the same ISO file using BurnAware and CDburnerXP (both under Windows 10) Both discs worked perfectly, and K3B was able to copy them without any problems. What the two Windows programs said was "incomplete disc." I'm pretty sure that they were not finalized (closed) correctly.
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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby wintpe » Oct 16th, '17, 11:22

sorry not had time to test, short term, distractions.

ill try to get round to it
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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby lloyd » Oct 16th, '17, 13:50

One of the developers (Leslie Zhai) told me that v2.10.0 is not being maintained anymore, and that I should install the newer version. (v16 or 17 or something like that) I have no idea how to do that) And it says I need a certain library, which I have no clue what package it's part of.
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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby wintpe » Oct 16th, '17, 14:55

there are possible problems linking a late k3b against the versions of plasma we use.

but of course it might not be k3b itself, as k3b will use many CLI tools to get the job done.

so it could be any one of these.

perhaps try an alternative to k3b , and see if the problem is replicated.

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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby lloyd » Oct 16th, '17, 17:37

As I've said, it DOES work under Windows. So I guess that's my temporary workaround.
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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby wintpe » Oct 17th, '17, 10:53

thats not what i was suggesting

if we can establish that another linux CD burning app has the same problem, it may indicate that one of the supporting utilities, like makeisofs, or other is at fault, and not k3b

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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby lloyd » Oct 17th, '17, 13:49

Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant. What other Linux programs have the capability to burn BD-R discs? I think I tried Brasero, and it wouldn't even detect my BD drive.
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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby wintpe » Oct 18th, '17, 17:31

its cdrtools i believe thats behind this.

and i think you can use them as a CLI

not tried this but grabbed from a web site

/bin/mkisofs -J -r -iso-level 3 -allow-multidot -allow-leading-dots -joliet-long -o IMAGE.iso disc/

cdrecord dev=/dev/sr0 -v -pad -data IMAGE.iso

or somethink like that

you will probably see this in the background with ps -ef in a terminal when k3b is burning.

so it might just be a newer version of cdrtools is required.

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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby lloyd » Oct 25th, '17, 16:55

Ok, now, it's a different, but related problem. I can't burn an ISO file to a Blu-ray disc. K3B detects the Blu-ray disc, but won't go further. (in fact, I re-installed all of Mageia, hoping that something would fix the problem. It didn't) I think this only happens with Blu-ray discs. If I just want to burn data files on a BD-R disc, that seems to work OK. It's just ISO files that are causing the problem. The thing is, it used to work without any problems. Now, it just hangs at "waiting for media" and the only choice is "cancel". Clicking "load" does nothing. I've heard it could possibly be a problem with growisofs. Where could I get a newer copy of CDRTOOLS? I think I have V1.11.1 (or whatever Mageia came with)
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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby wintpe » Oct 26th, '17, 11:53

well one way is prove it has nothing to do with K3B by running the command in a terminal that k3b runs.

you should be able to get this by running ps -ef|grep "string"

where string is k3b, growiso, mkisofs, or just looking at processes owned by you.

then run the command as a command line.

same result, raise it as a bug to the mageia bug team.

maybe the maintainer will get a newer version and push it through testing and you can add the testing repo and validate the fix for him/her.

this is the best aproach as it helps everyone.

but you could also download the cdrtools tar.gz package from wherever its hosted.

then xtract it ; cd into its extracted path, and then run

./configure --prefix=/home/youuserid/cdrtools
make
make install.

then try running the same command using the explicit paths of /home/youruserid/cdrtools/bin/xxxx1234

for each binary used in the command.

once you have proved a solution, again raise a bug report with your findings.

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by showing them whats wrong, and what fixes it.



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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby lloyd » Nov 10th, '17, 15:02

So now I have a different problem. Whenever I try to burn an ISO file to Blu-ray, everything starts out fine. K3B says it found a blank BD-R. But it refuses to load it. I click on "load" and nothing happens. So I cancel it (that works) But then, I can't close K3B because it won't close. It just totally locks up. (I can minimize it) Sometimes I use Ctrl-Alt-BackSpace (which doesn't always work) or Konsole to manually kill it (that always works). The thing is, it actually DID work at one time. I re-installed the whole distro and that didn't fix it. Is it possible to upgrade to the newer version of K3B or downgrade to the earlier version (2.03a)?
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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby wintpe » Nov 10th, '17, 18:34

is it possible to burn another distro or mga5 to a usb and boot from that and try that.

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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby lloyd » Nov 11th, '17, 13:35

is it possible to burn another distro or mga5 to a usb and boot from that and try that.

regards pete


Yes, it's possible. I tried it. Loaded Linux Mint 18.2 onto a USB stick and ran K3B from that (it was K3B v2.03a) Exactly the same results, as in, it still did exactly the same thing. Is there any way to run the latest version from Cauldron on Mageia 6?
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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby wintpe » Nov 12th, '17, 23:58

before you do that try fedora 26 live
thats probably not to diff from Cauldron

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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby lloyd » Nov 13th, '17, 01:12

Ok, I'm going to try that.
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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby lloyd » Nov 17th, '17, 17:24

Ok, so I've tried that using a different distro. First I tried KDE Neon running under Virtualbox. It installed K3B all right, but cdrtools is missing and I couldn't figure out where to get it or how to install it. I've also tried FC 26 and OpenSUSE. A lot of them just don't find the drive. Not sure why, but I'm sure it has to do with Virtualbox. As a temporary workaround, I have Windows 10 installed under Virtualbox and the BurnAware Free installed on Windows 10. That works perfectly, so I can live with it, even if I prefer using K3B.

I've also just d/l the SRPM of K3B 17.08. Is it possible to compile it (and get it to work) under Mageia 6?

Thank you!
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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby doktor5000 » Nov 17th, '17, 19:41

lloyd wrote:I've also just d/l the SRPM of K3B 17.08. Is it possible to compile it (and get it to work) under Mageia 6?

Please put that in a separate thread, and at least provide some more details from where you downloaded. And why shouldn't it be possible to compile that under mga6?
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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby wintpe » Nov 17th, '17, 23:15

yes k3b 2.10 does have this problem fails to see enough size on the blueray, at least thats the issue i see.
keeps saying insert medium, which i have, but fails to see that its a 25 gig blueray, my iso was only 10G

but im not sure if its my iso image that i created thats at fault, i created it with growisofs

i think 17 requires qt 5.9 but basically if you want to persist

"rpmbuild --rebuild k3b-17.08.0-1.mga7.src.rpm"

and install all the dependencies that it says are not installed, and there are lots, and im not sure if versions will not be satisfied at this point

it could still not be k3b at fault as im having the same issue with this command.

try this as a command line first as i suggested a few threads back.

wodim -v dev=/dev/sr0 -dao /home/user/file.iso

womin should also be able to burn an iso

i have the PIONEER BD-RW BDR-206 1.05 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0

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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby wintpe » May 4th, '18, 15:39

waking this one up again as i think this is still a problem.

this is with k3b 17.12.2



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BD-R Sequential (SRM)

Devices
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PIONEER BD-RW   BDR-206 1.05 (/dev/sr1, CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL) [DVD-ROM, DVD-R Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RAM, DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, BD-ROM, BD-R Sequential (SRM), BD-R Random (RRM), BD-RE] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump, Random Recording, Sequential Recording, Sequential Recording + POW] [%7]
PLEXTOR DVDR   PX-891SAW 1.03 (/dev/sr0, CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL) [DVD-ROM, DVD-R Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RAM, DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump] [%7]

K3b::IsoImager
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mkisofs print size result: 23670733 (48477661184 bytes)

System
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K3b Version: 17.12.2
KDE Version: 5.42.0
Qt Version:  5.9.4
Kernel:      4.14.38-desktop-1.mga6

Used versions
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mkisofs: 1.1.11
growisofs: 7.1

growisofs
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Executing 'builtin_dd if=/dev/fd/0 of=/dev/sr1 obs=32k seek=0'
/dev/sr1: pre-formatting blank BD-R for 49.8GB...
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/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/sr1=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=4gms -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:23670733 -dvd-compat -speed=7 -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m

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mkisofs calculate size command:
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/bin/genisoimage -gui -graft-points -print-size -quiet -volid learning 1 -volset  -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2017 SEBASTIAN TRUEG, MICHAL MALEK AND LESLIE ZHAI -publisher  -preparer  -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/k3b.U44439 -rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/k3b.J44439 -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/k3b.T44439 -no-cache-inodes -allow-limited-size -udf -full-iso9660-filenames -disable-deep-relocation -iso-level 3 -path-list /tmp/k3b.q44439

mkisofs command:
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/bin/genisoimage -gui -graft-points -volid learning 1 -volset  -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2017 SEBASTIAN TRUEG, MICHAL MALEK AND LESLIE ZHAI -publisher  -preparer  -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/k3b.s44439 -rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/k3b.j44439 -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/k3b.x44439 -no-cache-inodes -allow-limited-size -udf -full-iso9660-filenames -disable-deep-relocation -iso-level 3 -path-list /tmp/k3b.J44439


this resulted in unable to flush the cache

input output error

mkisofs crashed

50 gigabyte BD-R coaster created
Last edited by isadora on May 4th, '18, 18:39, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Placed command-output in between [CODE]-tags for better readability ;)
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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby wintpe » May 4th, '18, 17:32

managed to solve it myself as the afternoon went on, as i thought this was more of the same.

its not related or if it is its a lucky find.

my external BDR does not like being connected over e-sata but is fine with usb3

same thing happened with nero

so working fine so far, upto 13 gig as i write this.

regards peter
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Re: Can't copy my BD-R discs with K3B

Postby wintpe » May 4th, '18, 18:21

oh well you can all but hope.

mkisofs crashed again, has anyone successfully written a blueray

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