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Since Mageia 6 came out, I have been using Plasma now and in spite of many updates the login is still very, very slow. It takes up one minute to login! Rosa 9 with the new Plasma is much faster. I even deleted all Plasma settings that I could find: .kde, .kde4, .kded, .cache, the settings in .local/share, and in .config. Thus I got a fresh Plasma installation, but the login time is still the same. What kind of setting must I change? My graphics card is "Intel 810 and later".

Besides the boot time is 45 seconds. Is not that too slow also? My Rosa 8.1 installation on the same computer uses 35 seconds for boot and 25 for login; the Mint Mate installation uses 20 seconds for both.

Is there some setting that is wrong for Plasma?

Greetings.

Erik

Well, as you don't provide any other details, my reply would be: no, neither boot time nor login time are slow here, boot time is 10 seconds and login time is something slightly above 10 seconds.

Dear Doktor,

I have no idea what information would be helpful to you. Please enlighten me, and I shall give you all information yo may need.

Greetings,

Erik

Hi Erik,

you may want to try

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systemd-analyze blame

it should return a list of services and their time to load at boot.

Dear Ben,

the result of systemd-analyze blame is:

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[erikjan@ejvw ~]$ systemd-analyze blame
         11.557s shorewall.service
          9.639s systemd-journal-flush.service
          9.185s teamviewerd.service
          8.267s postfix.service
          6.904s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
          4.925s mandriva-everytime.service
          4.778s systemd-udev-settle.service
          4.454s dev-sda1.device
          4.076s NetworkManager.service
          3.939s network-up.service
          3.700s proc-fs-nfsd.mount
          3.533s fedora-loadmodules.service
          2.736s fedora-readonly.service
          2.211s gssproxy.service
          2.141s cups.service
          1.750s mga-bg-res.service
          1.668s upower.service
          1.560s systemd-logind.service
          1.559s resolvconf.service
          1.558s nscd.service
          1.521s rpcbind.service
          1.481s fedora-storage-init.service
          1.477s bluetooth.service
          1.248s network.service
           987ms systemd-resolved.service
           976ms chronyd.service
           904ms avahi-daemon.service
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All these services are necessary, I suppose, and I don't know which one are unnecessary.

I am more surprised by the fact that plasma needs so much time. Is there a log of login too?

Thank you for your suggestion.

Erik

as a comparison, heres mine:

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$ systemd-analyze blame
         12.454s shorewall.service
         11.201s shorewall6.service
          7.408s plymouth-quit-wait.service
          6.863s systemd-udev-settle.service
          5.627s cups.service
          3.662s mandriva-everytime.service
          3.658s network.service
          3.651s network-up.service
          3.301s upower.service
          3.301s udisks.service
          3.299s chronyd.service
          3.281s acpid.service
          3.211s systemd-journal-flush.service
          3.136s cpupower.service
          3.136s mga-bg-res.service
          3.115s ksm.service
          3.104s systemd-logind.service
          3.085s capi4linux.service
          3.057s saslauthd.service
          3.049s avahi-daemon.service
          2.452s resolvconf.service
          2.133s systemd-journald.service
          1.535s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-6994c3e9\x2da383\x2d41d5\x2db8e2\x2d1543c964b902.service
          1.259s virtualbox.service
          1.251s colord.service
          1.216s postfix.service
          1.200s fedora-readonly.service
          1.200s systemd-udevd.service
          1.181s udisks2.service
          1.021s systemd-vconsole-setup.service
           995ms polkit.service
           990ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
           554ms tmp.mount
           534ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
           534ms dev-hugepages.mount
           533ms dev-mqueue.mount
           502ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
           501ms systemd-remount-fs.service
           410ms iptables.service
           376ms systemd-backlight@backlight:acpi_video0.service     
           303ms systemd-sysctl.service 
           235ms mandriva-save-dmesg.service   
           201ms media-win_d.mount         
           177ms systemd-user-sessions.service   
           165ms partmon.service 
           151ms systemd-modules-load.service 
           140ms user@500.service   
           126ms ip6tables.service 
           125ms home.mount 
           115ms ksmtuned.service       
            88ms systemd-update-utmp.service   
            72ms plymouth-read-write.service       
            64ms fedora-loadmodules.service   
            59ms msec.service   
            50ms systemd-random-seed.service 
            43ms dev-disk-by\x2duuid-e1450db3\x2d1cd9\x2d417b\x2d99a4\x2d512be6c1db9c.swap     
            34ms rtkit-daemon.service 
            30ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service 
            24ms systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service     
            21ms kmod-static-nodes.service     
             3ms plymouth-start.service       
             2ms fedora-wait-storage.service 
             1ms systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service             
             816us sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount

System is Core i5, 8G ram, onboard intel Graphics, spinning disk, auto login enabled, Mga5 KDE4 (still thinking about upgrading )
I power the unit up in the morning, go away to do stuff and then come back to unit and leave running all day, so for me, boot time is not an issue.

I am sure others here will advise which (if any) services can be disabled at boot/login

edit: you may want to try that command in both mint and rosa, to see which services are (or not) running.

I also have a very slow start.
Here is my result:

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[jan@Humlan ~]$ systemd-analyze blame
     1min 3.017s webmin.service
         34.091s mysqld.service
         30.631s vmware-workstation-server.service
         29.196s httpd.service
         26.885s libvirtd.service
         24.943s nmb.service
         18.497s dkms-autorebuild.service
         17.425s systemd-journal-flush.service
         17.352s teamviewerd.service
         14.216s mandriva-everytime.service
         14.039s cups.service
         11.245s shorewall.service
         11.051s network-up.service
         10.450s postfix.service
         10.369s systemd-udev-settle.service
          5.732s ModemManager.service
          5.612s dev-sda7.device
          5.370s dev-sda5.device
          4.982s upower.service
          4.528s network.service
          4.524s rsyslog.service
          4.524s nscd.service
          4.523s acpid.service
          4.424s shorewall6.service
          4.385s systemd-logind.service
          4.283s sshd.service
          4.146s lm_sensors.service
          4.139s bluetooth.service
          4.059s saslauthd.service
          4.025s avahi-daemon.service
          3.858s hostapd.service
          3.732s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-eb452795\x2d7d78\x2d4d75\x2d8296\x2d843eb7719009.ser
          3.726s cpupower.service
          3.716s rpcbind.service
          3.716s virtualbox.service
          3.715s resolvconf.service
          3.715s partmon.service
          3.714s gssproxy.service
          3.703s msec.service
          3.703s mga-bg-res.service
          2.717s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-0ce7a917\x2d23b5\x2d4b12\x2d8d4d\x2dbeed9e99ba72.ser
          2.599s systemd-resolved.service
          2.333s udisks2.service
          2.227s sensord.service
          2.202s squeezeboxserver.service
          2.064s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-16a3e249\x2d6a17\x2d4b95\x2d840b\x2d67305e56a8de.ser
          1.998s fedora-readonly.service
          1.923s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-4a645cf2\x2db059\x2d4018\x2d98a3\x2ded2b0030736c.ser
          1.620s fedora-loadmodules.service
          1.256s fedora-storage-init.service
          1.116s drakxtools_http.service
           917ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
           912ms systemd-journald.service
           828ms systemd-networkd.service
           778ms polkit.service
           671ms systemd-fsck-root.service
           658ms systemd-udevd.service
           646ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
           641ms systemd-random-seed.service
           589ms plymouth-quit.service
           589ms plymouth-quit-wait.service
           537ms tmp.mount
           494ms mandriva-save-dmesg.service
           463ms dev-disk-by\x2duuid-56bb3f65\x2d3e42\x2d4177\x2d83f7\x2d42d06e37b4f4.swap
           438ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
           408ms systemd-timesyncd.service
           355ms fedora-storage-init-late.service
           355ms plymouth-read-write.service
           339ms vmware-USBArbitrator.service
           331ms proftpd.service
           314ms systemd-hostnamed.service
           305ms misc.mount
           301ms colord.service
           278ms systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-6d9d731b\x2db169\x2d485e\x2d9a8c\x2dc82c0c971d5f.ser
           243ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
           210ms user@970.service
           185ms systemd-sysctl.service
           181ms kmod-static-nodes.service
           180ms systemd-modules-load.service
           147ms storage.mount
           139ms systemd-user-sessions.service
           101ms systemd-update-utmp.service
            89ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
            89ms user@10001.service
            86ms systemd-remount-fs.service
            77ms var-www.mount
            70ms systemd-backlight@backlight:acpi_video0.service
            55ms systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service
            54ms home.mount
            51ms systemd-backlight@backlight:nv_backlight.service
            47ms systemd-rfkill.service
            42ms libvirt-guests.service
            26ms dracut-shutdown.service
            17ms rtkit-daemon.service
            15ms plymouth-start.service
             7ms fedora-wait-storage.service
             6ms dev-hugepages.mount
             6ms systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service
             5ms dev-mqueue.mount
             4ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount
             4ms systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-2aab70ef\x2d0865\x2d4dfe\x2d8aaa\x2d88014416ebf3.ser


Whats wrong?

Please use {Code]-tags for command-output, NOT [Quote]-tags.
Changed it for you, thanks ahead.

Here are my values from the current cauldron on a desktop.



There is no generally binding rule for a slow start. Everyone has to decide for himself whether he needs the services.
It is imperative that the systemd-analyze critical-chain command is also used for the decision. This shows in red which services require additional time.
There is also a fundamental difference between the services used on a desktop and a laptop!

After that, I can decide if I can "disable" a service or if I can use a "mask" service
It always means reading a lot and having a lot of time....
According to taste
https://www.certdepot.net/rhel7-get-started-systemd/
https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/
http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/blame-game.html
https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/s ... Debugging/

janpihlgren wrote:I also have a very slow start.
[...]
Whats wrong?

Please don't highjack other threads and start a separate one for your issues. This one is about slow login time, or at least that was what OP asked about primarily.

In your case the problem is obviously webmin which takes over a minute to start up.

my four year old laptop is about 10 seconds to boot and about 6 seconds to login (I7, 2 core, 4 gig ram, SSD)

my 5 year old desktop is about the same. (Phenom2-1100T, 16gig ram, SSD x 2)

the longest services to start up are network-up and mandriva -everytime at 4 and 2 seconds.

otherwise the rest are all sub 500ms.

So what hardware are you running Eric, (harddisk, CPU, memory, Chipset, all have a part to play in the time an OS takes to start)

you startup times look like something or everything is not performing very well.

it might be one component acting as a bottleneck.

I noticed everyone posting problems, seems to think us helpers are psychic, and can work out what you are running on, hence why i started the help us to help you thread, which seems to be ignored, or you have already decided it cant be a problem with my PC.

If we had at least a basic knowledge of you platform we could instantly see if the performance is expected for the hardware or way bellow par and hence an issue.

perhaps install sysstat package and run iostat -xN

as disk is now one of the slowest devices and can impact on performance, especially if its IDE.

It could be that a driver in the later kernels has an issue with a specific bit of hardware, and is going into a wait, I know if i connect one of my external disks incorrectly and the OS tries to probe it, the whole os boot up time gets lengthened, just because that disk is not coming on line and is hanging.
so look at /var/log/messages or dmesg and see if there are any io errors reported

regards peter

Dear Peter,
thank you for your remarks. I have downloaded lshw and sysstat. For good measure I added systemd-analyze time and blame. The results are:

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-bash-4.3# lshw
ejvw.maincomputer           
    description: Desktop Computer
    product: To Be Filled By O.E.M. (To Be Filled By O.E.M.)
    vendor: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    version: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    serial: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    width: 4294967295 bits
    capabilities: smbios-2.7 dmi-2.7 smp vsyscall32
    configuration: boot=normal chassis=desktop family=To Be Filled By O.E.M. sku=To Be Filled By O.E.M. uuid=00020003-0004-0005-0006-000700080009
  *-core
       description: Motherboard
       product: H81M-HDS
       vendor: ASRock
       physical id: 0
       serial: M80-4B025503402
     *-firmware
          description: BIOS
          vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
          physical id: 0
          version: P1.90
          date: 07/02/2014
          size: 64KiB
          capacity: 4032KiB
          capabilities: pci upgrade shadowing cdboot bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer acpi usb biosbootspecification uefi
     *-cache
          description: L1 cache
          physical id: 8
          slot: CPU Internal L1
          size: 128KiB
          capacity: 128KiB
          capabilities: internal write-back
          configuration: level=1
     *-cpu
          description: CPU
          product: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G3220 @ 3.00GHz
          vendor: Intel Corp.
          physical id: 9
          bus info: cpu@0
          version: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G3220 @ 3.00GHz
          slot: CPUSocket
          size: 3GHz
          capacity: 3800MHz
          width: 64 bits
          clock: 100MHz
          capabilities: x86-64 fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer xsave rdrand lahf_lm abm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase tsc_adjust erms invpcid xsaveopt dtherm arat pln pts cpufreq
          configuration: cores=2 enabledcores=2 threads=2
        *-cache:0
             description: L2 cache
             physical id: a
             slot: CPU Internal L2
             size: 512KiB
             capacity: 512KiB
             capabilities: internal write-back unified
             configuration: level=2
        *-cache:1
             description: L3 cache
             physical id: b
             slot: CPU Internal L3
             size: 3MiB
             capacity: 3MiB
             capabilities: internal write-back unified
             configuration: level=3
     *-memory
          description: System Memory
          physical id: c
          slot: System board or motherboard
          size: 4GiB
        *-bank:0
             description: DIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1333 MHz (0,8 ns)
             product: CT51264BA160BJ.C8F
             vendor: Conexant (Rockwell)
             physical id: 0
             serial: 16082108
             slot: ChannelA-DIMM0
             size: 4GiB
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 1333MHz (0.8ns)
        *-bank:1
             description: DIMM [empty]
             product: [Empty]
             vendor: [Empty]
             physical id: 1
             serial: [Empty]
             slot: ChannelB-DIMM0
     *-pci
          description: Host bridge
          product: 4th Gen Core Processor DRAM Controller
          vendor: Intel Corporation
          physical id: 100
          bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
          version: 06
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
          configuration: driver=hsw_uncore
          resources: irq:0
        *-display
             description: VGA compatible controller
             product: Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
             version: 06
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
             configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
             resources: irq:25 memory:f0000000-f03fffff memory:e0000000-efffffff ioport:f000(size=64) memory:c0000-dffff
        *-usb:0
             description: USB controller
             product: 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 14
             bus info: pci@0000:00:14.0
             version: 05
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm msi xhci bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=xhci_hcd latency=0
             resources: irq:26 memory:f0600000-f060ffff
           *-usbhost:0
                product: xHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.9.50-desktop-1.mga6 xhci-hcd
                physical id: 0
                bus info: usb@1
                logical name: usb1
                version: 4.09
                capabilities: usb-2.00
                configuration: driver=hub slots=10 speed=480Mbit/s
              *-usb:0
                   description: Video
                   product: Webcam C310
                   vendor: Logitech, Inc.
                   physical id: 1
                   bus info: usb@1:1
                   version: 0.12
                   serial: D4BD09A0
                   capabilities: usb-2.00
                   configuration: driver=snd-usb-audio maxpower=500mA speed=480Mbit/s
              *-usb:1
                   description: Printer
                   product: DCP-J152W
                   vendor: Brother
                   physical id: 2
                   bus info: usb@1:2
                   version: 1.00
                   serial: BROM3F262965
                   capabilities: usb-2.00 bidirectional
                   configuration: driver=usblp maxpower=2mA speed=480Mbit/s
              *-usb:2
                   description: Printer
                   product: HL-2130 series
                   vendor: Brother
                   physical id: 5
                   bus info: usb@1:5
                   version: 1.00
                   serial: D4N166651
                   capabilities: usb-2.00 bidirectional
                   configuration: driver=usblp maxpower=2mA speed=480Mbit/s
              *-usb:3
                   description: Mass storage device
                   product: Mass Storage Device
                   vendor: Generic
                   physical id: 9
                   bus info: usb@1:9
                   version: 1.00
                   serial: 058F63666471
                   capabilities: usb-2.00 scsi
                   configuration: driver=usb-storage maxpower=100mA speed=480Mbit/s
           *-usbhost:1
                product: xHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.9.50-desktop-1.mga6 xhci-hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@2
                logical name: usb2
                version: 4.09
                capabilities: usb-3.00
                configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=5000Mbit/s
        *-communication
             description: Communication controller
             product: 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 16
             bus info: pci@0000:00:16.0
             version: 04
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm msi bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=mei_me latency=0
             resources: irq:30 memory:f061a000-f061a00f
        *-usb:1
             description: USB controller
             product: 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB EHCI #2
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1a
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1a.0
             version: 05
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=ehci-pci latency=0
             resources: irq:16 memory:f0618000-f06183ff
           *-usbhost
                product: EHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.9.50-desktop-1.mga6 ehci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@3
                logical name: usb3
                version: 4.09
                capabilities: usb-2.00
                configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=480Mbit/s
              *-usb
                   description: USB hub
                   vendor: Intel Corp.
                   physical id: 1
                   bus info: usb@3:1
                   version: 0.05
                   capabilities: usb-2.00
                   configuration: driver=hub slots=4 speed=480Mbit/s
        *-multimedia
             description: Audio device
             product: 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1b
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0
             version: 05
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
             resources: irq:32 memory:f0610000-f0613fff
        *-pci:0
             description: PCI bridge
             product: 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #1
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1c
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.0
             version: d5
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pcieport
             resources: irq:16 ioport:2000(size=4096) memory:dfa00000-dfbfffff ioport:dfc00000(size=2097152)
        *-pci:1
             description: PCI bridge
             product: 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #4
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1c.3
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.3
             version: d5
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pcieport
             resources: irq:19 ioport:e000(size=4096) memory:f0500000-f05fffff
           *-network
                description: Ethernet interface
                product: RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
                vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
                physical id: 0
                bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
                logical name: enp2s0
                version: 0c
                serial: d0:50:99:59:84:c5
                size: 100Mbit/s
                capacity: 1Gbit/s
                width: 64 bits
                clock: 33MHz
                capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
                configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=full firmware=rtl8168g-2_0.0.1 02/06/13 ip=192.168.178.15 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=100Mbit/s
                resources: irq:31 ioport:e000(size=256) memory:f0504000-f0504fff memory:f0500000-f0503fff
        *-pci:2
             description: PCI bridge
             product: 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #5
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1c.4
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.4
             version: d5
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pcieport
             resources: irq:16 memory:f0400000-f04fffff
           *-usb
                description: USB controller
                product: ASM1042A USB 3.0 Host Controller
                vendor: ASMedia Technology Inc.
                physical id: 0
                bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
                version: 00
                width: 64 bits
                clock: 33MHz
                capabilities: msi msix pm pciexpress xhci bus_master cap_list
                configuration: driver=xhci_hcd latency=0
                resources: irq:16 memory:f0400000-f0407fff
              *-usbhost:0
                   product: xHCI Host Controller
                   vendor: Linux 4.9.50-desktop-1.mga6 xhci-hcd
                   physical id: 0
                   bus info: usb@4
                   logical name: usb4
                   version: 4.09
                   capabilities: usb-2.00
                   configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=480Mbit/s
                 *-usb
                      description: Bluetooth wireless interface
                      product: CSR8510 A10
                      vendor: Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd
                      physical id: 2
                      bus info: usb@4:2
                      version: 88.91
                      capabilities: bluetooth usb-2.00
                      configuration: driver=btusb maxpower=100mA speed=12Mbit/s
              *-usbhost:1
                   product: xHCI Host Controller
                   vendor: Linux 4.9.50-desktop-1.mga6 xhci-hcd
                   physical id: 1
                   bus info: usb@6
                   logical name: usb6
                   version: 4.09
                   capabilities: usb-3.00
                   configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=5000Mbit/s
        *-usb:2
             description: USB controller
             product: 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB EHCI #1
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.0
             version: 05
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=ehci-pci latency=0
             resources: irq:23 memory:f0617000-f06173ff
           *-usbhost
                product: EHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.9.50-desktop-1.mga6 ehci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@5
                logical name: usb5
                version: 4.09
                capabilities: usb-2.00
                configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=480Mbit/s
              *-usb
                   description: USB hub
                   vendor: Intel Corp.
                   physical id: 1
                   bus info: usb@5:1
                   version: 0.05
                   capabilities: usb-2.00
                   configuration: driver=hub slots=6 speed=480Mbit/s
        *-isa
             description: ISA bridge
             product: C220 Series Chipset Family H81 Express LPC Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.0
             version: 05
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: isa bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=lpc_ich latency=0
             resources: irq:0
        *-storage
             description: SATA controller
             product: 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller 1 [AHCI mode]
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.2
             version: 05
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: storage msi pm ahci_1.0 bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=ahci latency=0
             resources: irq:24 ioport:f0b0(size=8) ioport:f0a0(size=4) ioport:f090(size=8) ioport:f080(size=4) ioport:f060(size=32) memory:f0616000-f06167ff
        *-serial
             description: SMBus
             product: 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.3
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.3
             version: 05
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             configuration: driver=i801_smbus latency=0
             resources: irq:18 memory:f0615000-f06150ff ioport:f040(size=32)
  *-scsi
       physical id: 1
       bus info: scsi@5
       logical name: scsi5
       capabilities: scsi-host
       configuration: driver=usb-storage

-bash-4.3# iostat -xN
Linux 4.9.50-desktop-1.mga6 (ejvw.maincomputer)         02-10-17        _x86_64_     (2 CPU)

avg-cpu:  %user   %nice %system %iowait  %steal   %idle
           1,07    0,58    0,44    3,86    0,00   94,05

Device:         rrqm/s   wrqm/s     r/s     w/s    rkB/s    wkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz   await r_await w_await  svctm  %util
sda               0,32     1,08   58,55    0,98  1767,28    22,61    60,14     0,18    2,98    2,55   28,27   1,20   7,14
sdb               0,00     0,00    0,07    0,00     2,08     0,00    58,88     0,00    0,40    0,40    0,00   0,19   0,00

-bash-4.3# systemd-analyze time
Startup finished in 3.186s (kernel) + 33.663s (userspace) = 36.850s

-bash-4.3# systemd-analyze blame
          9.534s postfix.service
          7.156s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
          4.168s systemd-udev-settle.service
          3.778s network-up.service
          3.772s dev-sda1.device
          3.362s mandriva-everytime.service
          3.304s NetworkManager.service
          3.079s teamviewerd.service
          2.178s mga-bg-res.service
          2.154s cups.service
          2.030s fedora-readonly.service
          1.903s upower.service
          1.869s gssproxy.service
          1.423s fedora-loadmodules.service
          1.411s resolvconf.service
          1.396s systemd-vconsole-setup.service
          1.292s network.service
          1.283s proc-fs-nfsd.mount
          1.236s nfs-server.service
          1.144s fedora-storage-init.service
          1.090s chronyd.service
          1.010s udisks2.service
          1.003s iptables.service
          1.003s nscd.service
           989ms cpupower.service
           980ms rsyslog.service
           832ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
           758ms systemd-logind.service
           733ms bluetooth.service
           721ms rpcbind.service
           593ms systemd-fsck-root.service
           489ms avahi-daemon.service
           453ms systemd-udevd.service
           413ms systemd-networkd.service
           409ms systemd-rfkill.service
           393ms systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-b3677ebc\x2d9510\x2d44bd\x2d97de\x2d6c6cc90b1ae9.service
           391ms home.mount
           359ms systemd-sysctl.service
           348ms nfs-idmapd.service
           276ms user@492.service
           276ms msec.service
           263ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
           258ms systemd-journald.service
           253ms dev-disk-by\x2duuid-36f42edc\x2d7181\x2d4d30\x2d9e1d\x2d141556393a2a.swap
           235ms partmon.service
           190ms rpc-statd.service
           182ms systemd-timesyncd.service
           172ms systemd-journal-flush.service
           168ms systemd-random-seed.service
           164ms polkit.service
           162ms dev-hugepages.mount
           156ms nfs-config.service
           151ms mandriva-save-dmesg.service
           148ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
           142ms fedora-storage-init-late.service
           140ms systemd-resolved.service
           137ms rtkit-daemon.service
           126ms user@500.service
           107ms xinetd.service
           105ms systemd-remount-fs.service
           104ms systemd-hostnamed.service
            88ms plymouth-read-write.service
            85ms nfs-mountd.service
            83ms systemd-update-utmp.service
            79ms plymouth-quit.service
            73ms systemd-backlight@backlight:acpi_video0.service
            72ms systemd-modules-load.service
            71ms ip6tables.service
            68ms plymouth-quit-wait.service
            64ms acpid.service
            52ms kmod-static-nodes.service
            50ms systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service
            43ms rpc-statd-notify.service
            39ms dev-mqueue.mount
            38ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
            23ms var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount
            16ms systemd-user-sessions.service
            14ms dracut-shutdown.service
            12ms plymouth-start.service
             5ms fedora-wait-storage.service
             3ms systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service
             1ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount
             1ms tmp.mount


All this is about boot time. I hope you can conclude from all this why login takes a long time too.

I hope all this will tell you what you need to know.

Thank for your offer to help.

Greetings,

Erik.

You should also run

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systemd-analyze plot > boot.svg

and attach the resulting file boot.svg here.
And you should take a look at the services that take the most time to start, from your earlier output:

[erikjan@ejvw ~]$ systemd-analyze blame
11.557s shorewall.service
9.639s systemd-journal-flush.service
9.185s teamviewerd.service
8.267s postfix.service
6.904s NetworkManager-wait-online.service

Those make up for for ~45 seconds, the question being whether some of those are started in parallel or not.

Here is boot.svg:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hm35o4sn4hibdtg/boot.svg?dl=0

Thank you for your help.

Erik

not all that i asked, but I can conclude from the hw it should be performing similar to my laptop.

what hard disks do you have ?

and dmesg output, something is slowing that system down alot.

install rsyslog, if its not installed already, and check /var/log/messages for any thing complaining .

I know first time login to mga6 can be slow, but once the dot files/directories are created its usually very quick from then on.

regards peter

Dear Peter,

my HDD is just a run of the mill disk drive, no SSD, SATA connection.

Here is dmesg and messages of the latest boot and login:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/puama1u559vvj ... n.txt?dl=0

I had a look myself; there are a lot off errors. I made a new user; the login took about 8 seconds. I copied all my documents, pictures (a lot) and videos to the new user, and after this the login took about thirty seconds. so possibly there are too many files in my home. I did not yet copy my Thunderbird and Firefox directories.

thank you for your help.

Greetings,

Erik

OK just a run of the mill.

many of the modern high capacity drives are no longer optimized for performance, but size instead, older sata drives can be pretty bad.

even though linux is a very efficient OS compared to say windows, as later versions come along, hw requirements do go up.

with a empty home drive login was 30 seconds, was that the first time, or second, as I said first time is usually much slower as it initializes all the dot files.

it should be much quicker, on second time, my laptop on SSD is 6 seconds.

I know I should not push buying hardware as a solution to your problem, but you would be amazed (if it is related to HD performance) how much faster things are with an SSD.

you dont need a big one, a 128gig to host the OS, then make your run of the mill one your data drive.

anyway do a speed test of your harddisk.

i just ran this on a redhat 6 one at work with a 10K sas on mirrored raid and this is the reading I got.

you need a reasonable size otherwise you get a buffered reading which is inaccurate.

you should expect similar from a modern sata, whereas SSD will be 2.5 times faster.

run this as root

dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/test count=1024M
^C46676593+0 records in
46676593+0 records out
23898415616 bytes (24 GB) copied, 170.451 s, 140 MB/s

I control C's it as i got fed up waiting.

regards peter

Dear Peter,

the result is:

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-bash-4.3# dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/test count=1024M
dd: schrijven naar '/home/test': Geen ruimte meer over op apparaat
516795161+0 records gelezen
516795160+0 records geschreven
264599121920 bytes (265 GB, 246 GiB) copied, 2108,23 s, 126 MB/s
-bash-4.3#

Is your conclusion that one minute to boot and one minute to login are normal?

Is there no remedy for all the errors in "messages"?

Thank you for your help.

Greetings.

Erik

OK nothing wrong with your disk, could be a little faster but its not the problem.

the problem is multiple fold from what I can see.

network mangler is having issues with your ethernet network cards, and is taking way too long to initialise them.

also looks like you have some visualized network device that is also taking time.

Are you running some visualization, or did you try some at some point. as it looks like its still hanging around.

i would suggest looking in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts and seeing what ifup-xxxxx files there are.

also run "ifconfig -a" see if there are more network devices than you expect, as according to dmesg you should just have one nic, an r8619.

networkmanager keeps complaining about a wlp3s0u2 device which would be a dlink dwa-192.

all these messages are probably part of the problem, and eliminating them will be a good start.

regards peter

Dear Peter,

I removed the wireless files from /etc/sysconfig/network.d and gained twenty seconds! Thank you very much! Boot time is now 35 seconds.

I do not know what a "visualized network device" is; please enlighten me.

There are also a lot of plasma errors, do you have a remedy for these also?

Thank you for your help; it is much appreciated.

Greetings,

Erik.

Erik, in general it is advised to create separate topics for different issues.
It makes searching in the forum easier for somebody else, who might run into the same problem in future, and chances people are picking up your issue is bigger.

Please, don't forget to mark the topic [SOLVED].
You can do so, by editing the subject/title in the first message in this topic.
Write [SOLVED] to the left of subject/title, thanks ahead.

And im going to sum up with, there are many errors in that log file.
youve solved one.
I would ask you to think about the history your system has been through and why this solved error and the remaining ones came about.
should you rebuild and get them all solved in one hit.
well i would, but I can build and fully configure my system in a matter of 1 or two hours.

if you can id say its worth it, you should be seeing boot times on that hardware like my laptop, ie 10 and 6 seconds login or there about.

regards peter

Dear Peter,

thank you very much for your help. I learned a lot from you. I followed your suggestion to do a clean install of Mageia 6. When it became available I did an online upgrade instead of a clean installation, as I did with all upgrades since Mandrake 10. This, I see now, was a mistake. After the clean installation the boot time is reduced to 31 seconds, and the login to 32 seconds. My home directory being what it is, I suppose these are reasonable times.

In the mean time I also googled for plasma and its slow login. I understand that the problem is due to bugs in plasma itself, and not due to my configuration or too slow computer.

Tanks again and greetings.

Erik

one last post on this Erik

consider what i said about SSD.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/DREVO-128GB-In ... 128Gig+SSD

ive bought one of these, for one of my older systems.

only £46

this is not a high end make, but still boasts 500 meg read.

that will realy boost you boot and login times, and generaly make your system more responsive.

not alot to pay, keep your spinning harddisk just for home, or maybe just make it data and keep /home on the SSD, and keep it small.

regards peter