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First off, I don't use ktorrent, preferring Transmission. A little while back, an instance of ktorrent got started by accident. I didn't notice this for quite a while, but I did note an unprecedented, unanticipated and unwanted upload, which threatened to surpass my monthly broadband allowance several time over, and crippled my download speeds to a fraction of the norm. For some time, I was at a loss to understand why, since no application appeared to be the culprit. I finally traced the reason to this ktorrent instance, which was totally invisible. It ran, totally uncontrolled as to speed, without anything on the monitor screen to indicate it's presence. It was finally found and killed by finding it's pid, and that ended the problem. Curious, I've tried it on another, identical machine, with exactly the same results. . I've tried starting it from the launcher, from it's association as a bittorrent file, and from the control line command, all with the same result. Has anyone else come up with this? I did use ktorrent a long, long time ago, with no problems , but for various reasons moved to other clients

What problem is it exactly that you're talking about? That it doesn't show a tray icon?

doktor5000 wrote:What problem is it exactly that you're talking about? That it doesn't show a tray icon?

I always use KTorrent and have this happen to me too.

Its Icon is almost always in the hidden icon area which is the small up arrow between the speaker volume and the clock. It is very easy to leave running and forget about it. It restarts automatically on reboot if you don't quit the programme before you shut down.

You can avoid excessive seeding by not allowing seeding after your torrented file has finished downloading.

It would be most helpful if its icon was not put in the hidden section. is there any way to ensure this?

"It would be most helpful if its icon was not put in the hidden section. is there any way to ensure this?"

Yes.

Start Ktorrent so it is running. Right click the little selector arrow in the system tray. This is the little arrow that you would normally use to show the hidden icons. Select "System Tray Settings". Select "Entries". Find Ktorrent and change its visibility to "Always Visible". Then press OK.

I have to admit that I'd completely forgotten about the 'hidden' icon section, and yes it was there, or at least it appeared when I re-started ktorrent. For the life of me, I can't understand why we have 'hidden' functions. If we need the function we need to see it, If we don't. it needs to be deleted. It seems a particular nonsense, if starting the function, it goes straight to 'hidden'. Ah well. perhaps I'm too logically minded.

seanmacsuibhne wrote:It would be most helpful if its icon was not put in the hidden section. is there any way to ensure this?

Yes, check your systray settings and set it to "always visible" for ktorrent.

rodgoslin wrote:I have to admit that I'd completely forgotten about the 'hidden' icon section, and yes it was there, or at least it appeared when I re-started ktorrent. For the life of me, I can't understand why we have 'hidden' functions. If we need the function we need to see it, If we don't. it needs to be deleted. It seems a particular nonsense, if starting the function, it goes straight to 'hidden'. Ah well. perhaps I'm too logically minded.

Other people may not want their whole taskbar to be cluttered with systray icons, I like that function.
If you don't like it then feel free to create a KDE bugreport and discuss about the default settings or about the removal of that.

doktor5000 wrote:

seanmacsuibhne wrote:It would be most helpful if its icon was not put in the hidden section. is there any way to ensure this?

Yes, check your systray settings and set it to "always visible" for ktorrent.

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Thank you again for your help. I didn't know about that setting.

Seán

For completeness sake, KDE basically behaves the same way as windows does, they also don't show all icons in systray by default.

From my experience, following what Windows does is not a trait I'd admire, nor encourage. For many years it has always puzzled me as to how people could be so blindingly stupid. I tend to put it down to group think and the committee principle, and the old tenet that the intelligence of a group is in inverse ratio to its size. But, then, I'm an individualist. When I first came across the 'hidden' icon, my first thought was "Why?". And my second thought was "Why? Give me one good reason. It's not as if we're still using tiny monitor screens, at a low resolution". To me, the computer is a tool, a means to an end. Not an end in itself. If it looks nice, so well and good, but it doesn't make it any better at what it does.

rodgoslin wrote:When I first came across the 'hidden' icon, my first thought was "Why?". And my second thought was "Why? Give me one good reason.

To not clutter the systray are with dozens of icons. This is a good default setting, if you don't like it best discuss that upstream with the authors of the desktop environment, this is the wrong place to rant about this and it will not achieve anything.

True, but the original reason for the posting, was apparently irrational action by the operating system. It put me to a lot of trouble before I found it's cause. I shall, in the future lay my 'rants' on the on the appropriate forum.

rodgoslin wrote:True, but the original reason for the posting, was apparently irrational action by the operating system.

No, the original reason was that you had a torrent client running in the background, there was no irrational action, at least not from the OS.

I did say 'apparently'