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Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 7th, '17, 09:36
by melange
Hi all,

Much to say and support needed. But Ill try and keep on topic and break it down... I have essentially for the most part been using ROSA Linux for the past 2 years. However as time has gone by Ive found that using the ROSA Fresh free version ( testing OS essentially for their production OS ROSA Enterprise edition... I am finding to many bugs and am tired of all the effort in fixes.

For reasons I can cover another day only ROSA works on my OS ( or related this OS Mandriva etc )
Long story but another day.

My main issue is I urgently need to install a program called Zoom. In ROSA I had an issue with energy and RAM hitting peaks and lows with no obvious reason this was happening. ROSA shipped with Kernel 4.3 I updated to 4.8 solved those issues.

But the key problem I am yet to understand. When running a command e.g urpmi libxcb-xtest.so.0
it force installs 32bit libs when the OS / computer is 64bit.. Multiple times when installing something large it ROSA mixes 32bit libs and 64 bit libs.

What I have just found is my install of Zoom in Mageia is starting to resemble that ROSA install problem. But before I contine I think I am missing something obvious I want to instal libxcb-xtest.so.0 so I run urpmi libxcb-xtest.so.0 but urpmi command not found…..
What I see happening after I can install libxcb-xtest.so.0 ( I wonder if Magia will force install 32 or 64 bit libs…
Either way I suspect what will happen next is Zoom will not be able to find libxcb-xtest.so.0 where it expects it to be. I tried find / |grep libxcb-xtest.so.0> and other means for the life of me I cant find where that libxcb-xtest.so.0 end up. I have attached a screen shot of what happens in ROSA , when trying to start Zoom, and I am 100% sure the exact same thing is going to happen on Magia . The whole install is a mess to be honest but I have got it running on ROSA in the past but after a clean install of ROSA I cant get it to run. Once I work out urpmi lol ill come back pulled an all nighter on this mystery

If anyone can get the Zoom software working Id love to know how you do it !!!!!!!!!!!

THANKS

Re: Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 7th, '17, 09:40
by isadora
Hello and welcome melange!!!!

For one thing: urpmi should be run as root

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Re: Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 7th, '17, 09:45
by melange
Yeah no sleep for a long time brain snap there only been doing that everyday for 2 years... Anyway as I thought...

Password:
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[root@localhost zoom]# urpmi libxcb-xtest.so.0
To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed:
  Package                        Version      Release       Arch   
(medium "Core 32bit Release")
  libxau6                        1.0.8        5.mga5        i586   
  libxdmcp6                      1.1.1        7.mga5        i586   
(medium "Core 32bit Updates")
  libxcb-xtest0                  1.11.1       1.mga5        i586   
  libxcb1                        1.11.1       1.mga5        i586   
185KB of additional disk space will be used.
88KB of packages will be retrieved.
Proceed with the installation of the 4 packages? (Y/n) ^[^[


Why i586 ??

Re: Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 7th, '17, 09:52
by isadora
Just installed zoom on my laptop through Mageia Control Centre.
It installed just fine without any dependencies, and is startable from konsole.

Sorry, can't tell you more about.

Re: Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 7th, '17, 10:07
by melange
I have not even got around to looking the control centre or how it works yet.. Can you please be more specific on how you did this > Steps

Thanks !

Re: Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 7th, '17, 10:14
by melange
I think you will find it starts but there are some issues without the dependencies I think you will encounter. One I am certain of is the recoding feature where the meeting is recorded.. For some reason Zoom creates a video file and an audio file during the process and at the end of the meeting you open one of the files with an OS that has zoom installed and the video and audio join.. I have never been able to make this happen in Linux.. I had to drop the 2 files into Windows with Zoom convert then bring back to Linux... But I am desperate to get this running so let me know when you can what process you took

Thanks !!!!!!!!

Re: Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 7th, '17, 10:21
by isadora
Lots of information concerning Mageia Control Centre (MCC) can be found at:
https://doc.mageia.org/mcc/5/en/content/mcc-intro.html

Again, i am not specialized into zoom.
I know for programs installed on my laptop (x86_64) sometimes 32-bits-dependencies are needed, i just accept and it always goes like expected.

Re: Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 7th, '17, 10:36
by melange
If you say you installed it easily then I would not think it would have taken much to say how you did it. There is totally no purpose saying I installed it easily then say go and read how the control centre works when it sounds like you could type 1 line and help..

Thanks !

Re: Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 7th, '17, 10:42
by Ken-Bergen
As root
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urpmi zoom
I too have never used zoom so I have no idea how well it works.

Re: Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 7th, '17, 10:44
by melange
Another perhaps stupid question... How did you launch it ?

Re: Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 7th, '17, 10:46
by isadora
Just issue:
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zoom

from konsole as regular user

Re: Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 7th, '17, 11:49
by Lebarhon
melange wrote:Password:
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[root@localhost zoom]# urpmi libxcb-xtest.so.0
To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed:
  Package                        Version      Release       Arch   
(medium "Core 32bit Release")
  libxau6                        1.0.8        5.mga5        i586   
  libxdmcp6                      1.1.1        7.mga5        i586   
(medium "Core 32bit Updates")
  libxcb-xtest0                  1.11.1       1.mga5        i586   
  libxcb1                        1.11.1       1.mga5        i586   
185KB of additional disk space will be used.
88KB of packages will be retrieved.
Proceed with the installation of the 4 packages? (Y/n) ^[^[


Why i586 ??


It seems they don't exist in x86_64, so i586 is the good choice.
https://madb.mageia.org/package/list/ap ... /t_search/

About using MCC for software management, see:
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Software_man ... e_software

Re: Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 7th, '17, 14:10
by jkerr82508
I think that on a 64bit Mageia you should install lib64xcb-xtest0, which provides /usr/lib64/libxcb-xtest.so.0

You should always provide urpmi with a package name, not a file name. To find the package name:
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urpmf  libxcb-xtest.so.0
lib64xcb-xtest0:/usr/lib64/libxcb-xtest.so.0

Jim

Re: Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 7th, '17, 22:49
by merlin
To find out which dynamic libraries a program needs or is using, try using ldd as root

ldd `which zoom`

this assumes the zoom program is on the $PATH

ldd will provide the paths to the libraries that the program is using,

Note that on a 64-bit system that 32-bit libraries can be used for programs that need 32-bit libraries. However, you normally would install the 64-bit library packages and they have different rpm filenames to the 32-bit rpm packages.

Re: Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 7th, '17, 23:05
by melange
So from the zoom website there are 9 distro's supported with RPM's and DEB's and you can choose 64 bit or 32 bit... > Or there is the .tar compile option. Is what your suggesting is using the .tar method ?

Re: Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 8th, '17, 21:32
by doktor5000
Why do you now want to install a package from their website and not the previously recommended way to install the zoom package from the Mageia repositories?

Re: Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 9th, '17, 03:08
by melange
Doktor: I think I am having trouble doing this at the moment as I am getting message: mageia plus insert the medium named core release: Can you clarify with me the process you use to install zoom..
Thanks

Re: Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 9th, '17, 05:38
by melange
SOLVED: I actually found a solution urpmi.removemedia -a && urpmi.addmedia --distrib --mirrorlist On Mageia (and Mandriva) Linux, this command will clear your existing urpmi configuration and configure it to use only network sources. It can be useful after you have installed from CD/DVD and
don't want to continually be prompted to insert CD/DVD each time you install a package.

Re: Day 1 Mageia..

PostPosted: Jan 9th, '17, 15:26
by isadora
Please melange, don't forget to mark the topic [SOLVED].
You can do so, by editing the subject/title in the first message in this topic.
Write [SOLVED] to the left of subject/title, thanks ahead. ;)