Impossible to boot any Mageia Live-CD

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Impossible to boot any Mageia Live-CD

Postby John66 » Sep 2nd, '11, 17:35

As I wrote in the title, I can't boot from the Mageia Live CDs (any of them).

I have Mageia installed in my machine (from Free DVD 64-bit) from day 1. Successfully, with no problems, the fastest installation ever (no more than 15-16 minutes).
I'm a happy user, but I want to be able to boot from Live CD or install Mageia from it. It's important for me.

I have already read the various topics in the forum (also from other forums), about that kind of problem, but I can't find a solution.
So, following the various suggestions I came across, I've done -already- the following:

I downloaded various Mageia ISOs.
Mageia Live CD Gnome Europa 1, 3 times (2 from direct link, 1 via torrent).
Mageia Live CD Gnome Europa 2 (from direct link).
Mageia Live CD KDE Europa 1 (2 times, from direct link & torrent).
I've double-checked the sums (md5 & sha1) for all the downloaded images, they were correct.

I've burned the ISOs, with the lowest possible speed (4x).
One ISO was burned with brasero. Another one with AcetoneISO.
All the others with k3b, from various installations (Mandriva 2010.2, Mageia 1, Mageia Cauldron, PCLOS 2011.06), just to ensure that k3b worked OK (I knew that it was OK, but that's the correct procedure).
I verified every written image with k3b. All of them were correct. I burned only CD discs that I've used many times in the past and never gave me errors (Taiyo Yuden, TDK, Philips).
I couldn't boot (or install) Mageia with any of the cds.

My DVD drive it's OK. Many distros are installed the last year, about 15 only the last 6 months.
To be sure that there is no "sudden" problem with the dvd drive, I've installed PCLOS 2011.06 (again, after the problem I'm describing) and an Ubuntu variant.
I also booted various Live CDs & DVDs I had, even a multi-boot DVD with 5 distros. I had no problem with any of these distributions. But with Mageia... No luck.

Then copied 2 of the downloaded images in the usb memory I always use for installations or for live-boot. I used the 3 methods I know: the dd command, mandriva-seed & unetbootin. But... no joy.

In the Live CDs I've burned & the images I've put in the usb flash memory, I used various kernel boot commands, like: SAFE SETTINGS, NO ACPI, NO LOCAL APIC (hitting F4 in boot screen), noacpi, acpi=0,
acpi=off, acpi=no, noapic, nolapic, noirqbalance, irqpoll, irqfixup, splash=verbose, rdblacklist=nouveau, nouveau.modeset=0, nvidia.modeset=0, ide=nodma, nomodeset, and some other I can't remember now.
Some of them in combination with another one or more.
I know, some of these commands may be wrong or inappropriate for the problem, but I'm not an experienced user (just an average newbie) and I was just trying to fix the problem myself.

Other info:
1. After the screen with the three boot options, whatever I select (boot or install), I just see the boot-splash (I think that's the name), with the line of dots that show the progress of the "booting procedure".
It takes tooooo long to reach the last dot (about 10 minutes, maybe more) and nothing happens. After that, I waited (a couple of times up to 20-30 minutes) for something to happen... with no avail.
It's was always repeatable.
2. During that "boot progress", in the 2nd or 3rd dot (if I remember correctly) the message "Press Esc for verbose mode" should appear. That kind of message, or any other message, never appeared (every time).
3. If I hit Esc (to go to verbose mode) I get a black screen, with a blinking cursor on the upper left corner.
If I hit again Esc, I get this message: could not start boot splash: No such file or directory.
Then, every time I hit Esc, again the same message.
Image
4. When trying to boot with the Live-CD and wrote splash=verbose in kernel boot parameters, to see any useful messages, I get this:
(I managed only to take a shot of the last messages, all the other are to fast to capture)
Image
Where I placed the red arrow in the image, is where it stops for several seconds, then the next lines come up.
5. I googled for the messages in the screen (below the red arrow), like:
"could not start boot splash: No such file or directory"
"bio too big device logo0 (2 > 0)"
"SQUASHFS error: squashfs_read_data failed to read block 0x0"
I couldn't find anything useful, that I haven't tried already.
6. When trying to boot with the ISO in a usb memory and I enter the splash=verbose kernel boot parameter, I get this:
Image
7. Some of the times, that I tried booting with the usb (using splash=verbose boot option) I left it plugged in more time than usual,
just to see if there would be more messages than the previous photos. This message appears, although I don't remember if I pressed also any keys (like Ctrl+Alt+F3):
Image

Hardware (but it's very hard to believe there is a problem with it):
Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-M720-US3 (rev. 1.0) BIOS version F2 (updated 2-3 months ago)
4 GB RAM (DDR2 800)
CPU AMD Phenom 8650 (X3)
Graphics Card XFX nvidia7900GS 256MB (PCI Express)
SATA Hard Drives
IDE DVD-drive
Internet Connection: levelone WUA-0603 (H/W version 2.0) usb wireless.
Yes, I tried to boot with or without the usb wireless card, so most probably it's not the problem.

I can't think of any other information to give. If you think of something, ask me.

I downloaded the "Kernel Boot Command-Line Parameter Reference" from kernel.org and I'm willing to try every command in it, if you think that somewhere in these pages is the solution.

Does anyone has an idea, a workaround, a specific combination of boot parameters... or anything, so I can boot from a Mageia Live-cd & install it?

Thanks in advance


PS. Sorry for the long post, but I don't want you to waste your time in answers that I've already tested.
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Re: Impossible to boot any Mageia Live-CD

Postby doktor5000 » Sep 2nd, '11, 18:26

Well, i've not had a look at the LiveCDs yet. But in the three last screenshots, what appears to me to be a problem are the SQUASH-FS errors,
and in the last screenshot a kernel-oops from what appears to be an usb device. You could also try the nomodeset kernel option,
or xdriver=vesa to rule out problems with the nouveau driver, that some models seems to have.
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Re: Impossible to boot any Mageia Live-CD

Postby John66 » Sep 2nd, '11, 19:49

doktor500 thanks for your answer.
xdriver=vesa & nomodeset didn't make any difference.

I'm in a state of just hoping that the solution isn't something stupid-simple, something obvious, something "under my nose" that I can't see or think.
(I'll bang my head on the wall, if that's the case).
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Re: Impossible to boot any Mageia Live-CD

Postby barjac » Sep 2nd, '11, 22:40

I filed this bug the day that mga1 was released.
https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1506
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Re: Impossible to boot any Mageia Live-CD

Postby John66 » Sep 3rd, '11, 00:21

bar jac

I'm aware of that bug report, but only today (after your reply), I noticed that there were new comments, from the last days of August.
So, it seems I'm not the only one with the problem...
I must add "my case" in that bug report.

Thanks
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Re: Impossible to boot any Mageia Live-CD

Postby John66 » Sep 3rd, '11, 00:46

Some more info, that might someone find useful
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$ lspcidrake -v | grep IDE
pata_amd        : nVidia Corporation|MCP78S [GeForce 8200] IDE [STORAGE_IDE] (vendor:10de device:0759 subv:1458 subd:5002) (rev: a1)

$ lspcidrake -v | grep SATA
ahci            : nVidia Corporation|MCP78S [GeForce 8200] AHCI Controller [STORAGE_SATA] (vendor:10de device:0ad4 subv:1458 subd:b002) (rev: a2)

$ lspcidrake
Card:NVIDIA GeForce 6100 to GeForce 360: nVidia Corporation|G71 [GeForce 7900 GS] [DISPLAY_VGA] (rev: a1)
firewire_ohci   : Texas Instruments|TSB43AB23 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) [SERIAL_FIREWIRE]
unknown         : Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]|Family 10h Processor Link Control [BRIDGE_HOST]
k10temp         : Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]|Family 10h Processor Miscellaneous Control [BRIDGE_HOST]
amd64_edac_mod  : Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]|Family 10h Processor DRAM Controller [BRIDGE_HOST]
unknown         : Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]|Family 10h Processor Address Map [BRIDGE_HOST]
unknown         : Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]|Family 10h Processor HyperTransport Configuration [BRIDGE_HOST]
shpchp          : nVidia Corporation|MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Express Bridge [BRIDGE_PCI] (rev: a1)
ahci            : nVidia Corporation|MCP78S [GeForce 8200] AHCI Controller [STORAGE_SATA] (rev: a2)
unknown         : nVidia Corporation|MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Bridge [BRIDGE_PCI] (rev: a1)
snd_hda_intel   : nVidia Corporation|MCP72XE/MCP72P/MCP78U/MCP78S High Definition Audio (rev: a1)
pata_amd        : nVidia Corporation|MCP78S [GeForce 8200] IDE [STORAGE_IDE] (rev: a1)
ehci_hcd        : nVidia Corporation|MCP78S [GeForce 8200] EHCI USB 2.0 Controller [SERIAL_USB] (rev: a1)
ohci_hcd        : nVidia Corporation|MCP78S [GeForce 8200] OHCI USB 1.1 Controller [SERIAL_USB] (rev: a1)
ehci_hcd        : nVidia Corporation|MCP78S [GeForce 8200] EHCI USB 2.0 Controller [SERIAL_USB] (rev: a1)
ohci_hcd        : nVidia Corporation|MCP78S [GeForce 8200] OHCI USB 1.1 Controller [SERIAL_USB] (rev: a1)
unknown         : nVidia Corporation|MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Memory Controller [MEMORY_RAM] (rev: a1)
unknown         : nVidia Corporation|MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Memory Controller [MEMORY_RAM] (rev: a1)
i2c_nforce2     : nVidia Corporation|MCP78S [GeForce 8200] SMBus [SERIAL_SMBUS] (rev: a1)
unknown         : nVidia Corporation|MCP78S [GeForce 8200] LPC Bridge [BRIDGE_ISA] (rev: a2)
unknown         : nVidia Corporation|MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Memory Controller [MEMORY_RAM] (rev: a2)
hub             : Linux 2.6.38.8-desktop-4.mga ohci_hcd|OHCI Host Controller [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub]
hub             : Linux 2.6.38.8-desktop-4.mga ohci_hcd|OHCI Host Controller [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub]
Mouse:evdev     : Logitech|USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse [Human Interface Device|Boot Interface Subclass|Mouse]
hub             : Linux 2.6.38.8-desktop-4.mga ehci_hcd|EHCI Host Controller [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub]
hub             : Linux 2.6.38.8-desktop-4.mga ehci_hcd|EHCI Host Controller [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub]
rt2870          : Ralink|802.11 n WLAN
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Re: Impossible to boot any Mageia Live-CD

Postby Germ » Sep 3rd, '11, 12:56

Try unplugging all the USB devices you can and give it a try.
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Re: Impossible to boot any Mageia Live-CD

Postby John66 » Sep 3rd, '11, 19:21

Germ

I have already tested that option, nothing happens..
For the record, the only usb device I have it's the wireless wi-fi.
Thanks, anyway.
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Re: Impossible to boot any Mageia Live-CD

Postby doktor5000 » Sep 3rd, '11, 19:58

There could still be some internal stuff connected via USB.
Well, you should open a bugreport and see how it goes out: https://bugs.mageia.org/enter_bug.cgi?p ... mat=guided
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Re: Impossible to boot any Mageia Live-CD

Postby barjac » Sep 4th, '11, 13:50

doktor5000 wrote:Well, you should open a bugreport and see how it goes out: https://bugs.mageia.org/enter_bug.cgi?p ... mat=guided
I don't follow - why open a duplicate?
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Re: Impossible to boot any Mageia Live-CD

Postby doktor5000 » Sep 4th, '11, 14:14

:oops: Sorry, my conscience seems to have skipped over your post, although i read it.
So no, no additional bugreport needed.
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Re: Impossible to boot any Mageia Live-CD

Postby doktor5000 » Sep 4th, '11, 19:12

Could both of you try maybe: viewtopic.php?p=6525#p6525 ?
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Re: Impossible to boot any Mageia Live-CD

Postby John66 » Sep 4th, '11, 21:17

I "subscribed" to the bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1506 that was proposed by bar jac.

Could both of you try maybe: viewtopic.php?p=6525#p6525 ?

I'm aware of this topic, also. But it is for an already installed Mageia and the problem is for an attempt to boot afterwards.
Anyway, I tested the kernel boot options proposed there, some time ago. Did it again today. No luck.

In my initial post, the last photo (screen-shot) might not be representative of the problem.
I'm struggling with that problem, over a month now. This picture could be as a result of a specific kernel boot option, which I can't remember now.
Also, I can't remember if I was booting with a cd or usb, at the time I took that shot.

So, I have a new screen-shot (photo). I was trying again, yesterday & today, to boot with the KDE live cd (new download, new burn).
When the boot process hangs (the dvd drive stops spinning), when I hit Ctrl+Alt+F3, I get this:
Image
I get that screen, even without the usb wireless card plugged in. I even tried with the usb mouse unplugged & with the kernel boot option: nousb.
Take a look at the lines 11 to 15 (about usbhid).
Any ideas?

I have some ideas, more like a hunch, no hard evidence. But I don't have the knowledge or the skills to do it.
I'll write about it in my next post
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Re: Impossible to boot any Mageia Live-CD

Postby John66 » Sep 13th, '11, 08:25

During the weekend, I booted a Mageia KDE Live CD in a friend's machine without a problem.
His pc is not so different from mine.
Is there something I should note down from his configuration, that may help me with this problem?
Does anyone have an idea?

Also the live usb, I made from Mageia KDE Live cd ISO, that I can't boot with, worked OK in an old laptop.
The most disappointing... Ι'm feeling incompetent to do something!
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