XFCE4 post-install LXDE clean-up?

[globetrotterdk]

I got tired of the slightly anemic LXDE desktop and installed the full XFCE4 desktop through Rpmdrake. Now I am wondering how I can best purge LXDE and all of the configuration files from my system. I assume it is something like

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urpme lxde*

to remove the packages, but I don't see any "purge" switch available for urpm.

For any XFCE4 users out there, any ideas about how to install the clipman plug-in? I see there is a bug posted https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2017 , with a reference to the Cauldron repo. Does that mean that users wanting to keep a stable system, have to wait until the clipman plug-in is backported?

[doktor5000]

For any XFCE4 users out there, any ideas about how to install the clipman plug-in? I see there is a bug posted https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2017 , with a reference to the Cauldron repo. Does that mean that users wanting to keep a stable system, have to wait until the clipman plug-in is backported?

For one, there is no "purge" switch like f.ex. apt-get has. Also there is no easy way to remove all packages of a given category
and all their dependencies. Best bet would be to feed the list of packages that make up LXDE to urpme, but the list
you would need to do manually.
If you're a bit into command line usage, you can query your local RPM database for all packages,
grep for those who have "Graphical desktop/Xfce" as category and pipe this list to urpme, this would already
remove the biggest part of XFCE4. For the libraries, this is not possible so easily.

For the second question cited above, no, not actually. As xfce4-clipman-plugin was available for Mandriva 2010.2
from official repositories, it can be issued as an update to Mageia 1, provided it passes QA validation.
As it currently doesn't seem to have a maintainer currently, i'll try to look into providing it as an update candidate.

[globetrotterdk]

For one, there is no "purge" switch like f.ex. apt-get has. Also there is no easy way to remove all packages of a given category and all their dependencies. Best bet would be to feed the list of packages that make up LXDE to urpme, but the list you would need to do manually. If you're a bit into command line usage, you can query your local RPM database for all packages, grep for those who have "Graphical desktop/Xfce" as category and pipe this list to urpme, this would already
remove the biggest part of XFCE4. For the libraries, this is not possible so easily.

Thanks for the quick reply. OK, I'll see if I can sort something out with the command line and the LXDE packages. How do I get rid of all the LXDE configuration files and hidden folders?

[djennings]

To find out what packages are in LXDE do

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$ urpmq --requires task-lxde
--requires behaviour changed, use --requires-recursive to get the old behaviour
desktop-common-data
lxde-common
lxappearance
lxterminal

lxde-common itself has dependencies

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$ urpmq --requires lxde-common
--requires behaviour changed, use --requires-recursive to get the old behaviour
openbox
lxpanel
lxsession[>= 0.4.1]
pcmanfm[>= 0.9.8]
lxterminal
lxde-icon-theme
mageia-lxde-config[>= 0.5]
mageia-theme[*]

Then to remove them

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urpme lxde-common lxappearance lxterminal

and so on
Note : mageia-theme is needed by all the other desktops so if you try to uninstall it you will uninstall every other desktop too.

The configuration files are in ~/.config/lxpanel and lxterminal

[globetrotterdk]

Thanks for all the posted info. There were also configuration files in ~/.config/libfm and openbox, for anyone else reading this thread.

Is there any chance that Mageia will eventually shift to a cli package manager the is a bit more advanced? I notice that PCLinuxOS uses Apt for RPM, and it is built on Mandriva.

[doktor5000]

urpm tools are advanced enough for mostly all use cases, so why should it be changed?

[globetrotterdk]

urpm tools are advanced enough for mostly all use cases, so why should it be changed?

I don't have any previous experience with Mandriva or Mageia, but my general impression with .rpm based package managers is that they vary a lot in their package handling abilities. I am first and foremost a Debian based distro user and testing the freshness of a new distro, so it is natural for me to suggest something I am familiar, particularly as there is no "purge" switch in urpm . I also thought that since PCLinuxOS (Mandriva based):
1) Must have had some good reasons for switching to apt4rpm.
2) It must not be extremely difficult to switch to apt4rpm, when such a small distro implemented apt4rpm.
3) It would be an opportunity for Mageia to implement some new ideas.
4) I personally would recommend Mageia to all of my friends if the developers were willing to implement alternative desktops like PCLinuxOS has been doing with WMii http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=84400.0, Zenix with Awesome http://zenix-os.net/ and Salix has done with Ratpoison http://www.salixos.org/wiki/index.php/Home I would love a Mageia version with ScrotWM and Dmenu.

[isadora]

Where it concerns apt4rpm, take a look at:
https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3163

All the suggestions in point 4 look just great, so much enthusiastic input shows me, a great willing for contributing into the Mageia-project.
Please take a look around at our contribution-page:
http://www.mageia.org/en/contribute/

[globetrotterdk]

...so much enthusiastic input shows me, a great willing for contributing into the Mageia-project.
Please take a look around at our contribution-page: http://www.mageia.org/en/contribute/

Ha ha. I didn't see that one coming did I ? Actually, I would like to. I'll take a few days and think about where I can best contribute, but will return to the contrib page. Thanks.

[doktor5000]

Well, as this is a community distro, you should always ask (this applies to real life, too)
"Who will do the work which i'm asking for?"