[EXPLAINED] Fonts missing in LibreOffice

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[EXPLAINED] Fonts missing in LibreOffice

Postby kajosim » Sep 21st, '21, 16:18

Hi

Using a fresh install Mageia 8 Plasma desktop.
Opening some old .ODT files I notice that LibreOffice no longer recoognices some fonts including some of the 35 standard PostScript fonts.

When in KWrite going : Settings -> Configure Editor I can chose all the fonts I expect to find. Likewise in GIMP.
But in LibreOffice eg fonts :
    Bitstream Charter
    Charter
    Century Schoolbook L
    Courier
    URW Chancery L
    URW Palladio L
    Utopia
are not available. And the Nimbus fonts have changes to their names. Some URW font names miss an 'L' at the end.
In fact some font names in KWrite and GIMP are doubles , one with and one without 'L'
AbiWord is the same as LibreOffice.

MCC shows that the packages urw-fonts and fonts-ttf-urw are installed.

I have tried to check older versions and the issue also exist in Mag7 and 6 . Mag5 seems to be OK.

Regards
Last edited by kajosim on Oct 26th, '21, 14:38, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Fonts missing in LibreOffice

Postby kajosim » Oct 26th, '21, 14:37

This is what I have found out.

First I tried to compare Mag5 and Mag8 to see whether there were some font files I could copy from Mag5 and install on Mag8. But I found nothing.
Further search shows that fonts in Mag8 is quite similar to other contemporary Linux distributions.

The missing fonts are eg explained in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... ug/1758632
As of version 5.3, LibreOffice no longer supports Type 1 fonts, making these commonly used fonts unusable by default. See: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/sho ... ?id=104701.


Therefore TTF versions of the 35 standard PostScript font has been made available. In MCC software installation it is the fonts-ttf-urw - The 35 standard True Type fonts​

The font decription has been improved over time and for some reasons the font names has changed.

Some information based on http://luc.devroye.org/fonts-97589.html and somewhere about : URW-base35 – URW "Base 35" font pack for LaTex
In summary :
Century Schoolbook = New Century Schoolbook = C059
Dingbats = Zapf Dingbats = D050000L
Nimbus Mono L = Courier = Courier New
Nimbus Roman No9 L = Nimbus Roman = Times = (Times New Roman ?)
Nimbus Sans L = Nimbus Sans Narrow = Helvetica
Standard Symbols L = Symbol
URW Bookman
URW Chancery L Medium Italic = Zapf Chancery = Z003 (=Zapf Calligraphic)
URW Gothic L Book = Avant Garde = URW Gothic
URW Palladio L = Palatino = P052


Some information about C059 and P052 can be found in : https://blogfonts.com/c059.font and https://blogfonts.com/p052.font

It seems that Type1 is on its way to become obsolete, and OTF is a better replacement than TTF .

But still, even though the new Opentype fonts looks identical to the old Type1 fonts there is a difference in the amount of "head-space" so there is a bigger line distance (line hight) in the type1 fonts.
That may be the reason why LibreOffice Writer "Text body"-Style has Line Spacing set to 1.15 lines which is a predefined value.

To me TTF-fonts look nice and of good quality but Adobes type1 fonts look more professional with the bigger spacing.

So that explaines the Core 35 fonts. I was still missing Bitstream Charter which I found and downloaded from https://github.com/peplow/Bitstream-Charter .

Regards.
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Re: [EXPLAINED] Fonts missing in LibreOffice

Postby morgano » Oct 27th, '21, 09:16

Thank you for the information
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