[SOLVED] How Do I Stop Orphan Notifications?

[yankee495]

I've tried urpmi $(urpmq --auto-orphans) and get the following:

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[root@localhost ~]# urpmi $(urpmq --auto-orphans)
No package named kernel-desktop-devel-3.12.7-1.mga4
[root@localhost ~]#


After an update I found I still get the orphan notice. I think maybe the "no package named..." is stopping it from marking the orphans.

I know not to uninstall them...just want the notice to stop.

[yankee495]

Ok, I uninstalled the package kernel-desktop-devel-3.12.7-1.mga4

Then I did this again and I think it worked? Does it look ok now?

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[root@localhost ~]# urpmi $(urpmq --auto-orphans)
No package named kernel-desktop-devel-3.12.7-1.mga4
[root@localhost ~]# urpmi $(urpmq --auto-orphans)
Packages vboxadditions-kernel-3.12.8-desktop-2.mga4-4.3.6-8.mga4.x86_64, kernel-desktop-3.12.8-2.mga4-1-1.mga4.x86_64, cups-drivers-magicolor5440dl-1.2.1-15.mga4.x86_64, rsnapshot-1.3.1-10.mga4.noarch, cups-drivers-magicolor2430dl-1.6.1-15.mga4.x86_64, perl-Gtk2-Notify-0.50.0-8.mga4.x86_64, perl-Tree-DAG_Node-1.110.0-2.mga4.noarch, cups-drivers-2008-5.mga3.x86_64, perl-XML-Filter-BufferText-1.10.0-4.mga4.noarch, lib64ossp_uuid16-1.6.2-9.mga4.x86_64, virtualbox-kernel-3.12.8-desktop-2.mga4-4.3.6-8.mga4.x86_64, perl-XML-Validator-Schema-1.100.0-3.mga4.noarch, poster-0-0.20060221.9.mga4.x86_64, cups-drivers-lxx74-0.8.4.2-12.mga4.x86_64, fglrx-kernel-3.12.8-desktop-2.mga4-13.251-9.mga4.nonfree.x86_64, task-printing-lexmark-2011-3.mga4.x86_64, printer-utils-2008-5.mga3.x86_64 are already installed
Marking kernel-desktop-3.12.8-2.mga4 as manually installed, it won't be auto-orphaned
Marking cups-drivers-magicolor5440dl as manually installed, it won't be auto-orphaned
Marking rsnapshot as manually installed, it won't be auto-orphaned
Marking cups-drivers-magicolor2430dl as manually installed, it won't be auto-orphaned
Marking perl-Gtk2-Notify as manually installed, it won't be auto-orphaned
Marking perl-Tree-DAG_Node as manually installed, it won't be auto-orphaned
Marking cups-drivers as manually installed, it won't be auto-orphaned
Marking perl-XML-Filter-BufferText as manually installed, it won't be auto-orphaned
Marking lib64ossp_uuid16 as manually installed, it won't be auto-orphaned
Marking virtualbox-kernel-3.12.8-desktop-2.mga4 as manually installed, it won't be auto-orphaned
Marking perl-XML-Validator-Schema as manually installed, it won't be auto-orphaned
Marking poster as manually installed, it won't be auto-orphaned
Marking cups-drivers-lxx74 as manually installed, it won't be auto-orphaned
Marking task-printing-lexmark as manually installed, it won't be auto-orphaned
Marking printer-utils as manually installed, it won't be auto-orphaned
writing /var/lib/rpm/installed-through-deps.list
[root@localhost ~]#

I don't know why kernel-desktop-devel-3.12.7-1.mga4 doesn't show up to reinstall it. I've heard of a corrupted database.

Never had this problem.

[Ken-Bergen]

I don't know why kernel-desktop-devel-3.12.7-1.mga4 doesn't show up to reinstall it. I've heard of a corrupted database.

Never had this problem.

That's because it only existed in Cauldron and was replaced by kernel-desktop-devel-3.12.8-2.mga4 when or before Mageia4 was released.

[yankee495]

Fixed, thanked Doktoer5000, too many Tabs!

Thanks Ken,

I figured out the orphan problem. I post them, post the fix and mark them solved, for others to see.

I'm over at bugzilla doing a bug report on fglrx and the missing/wrong link from my Chrome problems, which by the way is working well.

I had a couple of times where the desktop just disappeared...just blink, gone. I figured it fixed it and all is well.

[Ken-Bergen]

Oops, I forgot to ask a basic question which is "Why?"

The message about orphans only appears when using urpmi which can only be run as root and can be safely ignored.

Marking all orphans as manually installed seems to be a futile exercise to me.

[yankee495]

Oops, I forgot to ask a basic question which is "Why?"

The message about orphans only appears when using urpmi which can only be run as root and can be safely ignored.

Marking all orphans as manually installed seems to be a futile exercise to me.

In MCC everytime I got an update it gave me the orphan notification after the update.

I got this information:

Mark all orphans as un-orphaned
To simply mark all orphaned packages as manually installed, one can use e.g.
urpmi $(urpmq --auto-orphans)

From here: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Removing_packages#Additional_Note_about_Orphans

[doktor5000]

The message about orphans only appears when using urpmi which can only be run as root and can be safely ignored.

Let's agree on "it should only be shown when using urpmi".
Please check https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920 and also the link in the last comment there.
It ougth to be "fixed" in rpmdrake, but sadly it's not.

[Ken-Bergen]

Let's agree on "it should only be shown when using urpmi".

I'm running Cauldron on three machines. I tested and that's how it works.
As Cauldron is so young I just thought it had been fixed earlier. My mistake.

[yankee495]

Ok, so I done it the right way, right?

I knew better than to remove them. Way back it used to tell you how to remove them and I thought some of them looked like they were needed so I Googled it or most likely went to the forum back then.

Anyway, I never pulled that stunt! Maybe this thread will stop people from removing them also.

[Ken-Bergen]

For what it's worth.
Since Mageia1 I've been running Cauldron.

I'd heard the horror stories so I decided to test.
After each update that suggested a reboot I did so then ran

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urpme --auto-orphans

And said Yes.
I have yet to see it break anything.

[doktor5000]

Yes, if used correctly it works just fine. E.g. for packagers that install quite a lot of development packages it can be used to remove all of them,
as those are not directly installed but those are required as BuildRequires, hence all marked orphans.

The point is, people don't think about consequences - if they remove some minor KDE or GNOME packages,
which also uninstall task-kde4 or task-gnome, then at first nothing happens, all is still working.
Use auto-orphans and Kaboom!