Dolphin's Logic is weird!

This forum is dedicated to basic help and support :

Ask here your questions about basic installation and usage of Mageia. For example you may post here all your questions about getting Mageia isos and installing it, configuring your printer, using your word processor etc.

Try to ask your questions in the right sub-forum with as much details as you can gather. the more precise the question will be, the more likely you are to get a useful answer

Dolphin's Logic is weird!

Postby MisteRibi » Aug 4th, '12, 04:15

Hi,

I'm just don't understand the logic from nautilus, see by yourself and if you understand, explain me!

http://imgur.com/Nddia

Thanks for reading,
Last edited by MisteRibi on Aug 4th, '12, 16:19, edited 1 time in total.
MisteRibi
 
Posts: 9
Joined: Aug 1st, '12, 19:01

Re: Nautilus's Logic is weird!

Postby doktor5000 » Aug 4th, '12, 16:11

What's the problem with the information on that screenshot?
You selected eight folder and two files. Those occupy ~84,5 GiB on the drive,
and contain 62417 folders and 6857 files altogether. The partition where all that resides on has
3,8 GiB free space, and the size of that partition is 102.8GiB and is 97% full.

BTW, that is not nautilus, but Dolphin, see the icon in the upper left corner.
Cauldron is not for the faint of heart!
Caution: Hot, bubbling magic inside. May explode or cook your kittens!
----
Disclaimer: Beware of allergic reactions in answer to unconstructive complaint-type posts
User avatar
doktor5000
 
Posts: 18058
Joined: Jun 4th, '11, 10:10
Location: Leipzig, Germany

Re: Nautilus's Logic is weird!

Postby isadora » Aug 4th, '12, 16:19

doktor5000 wrote:..........
BTW, that is not nautilus, but Dolphin, see the icon in the upper left corner.

.....and also the text "Dolphin" in the right in the tab. ;)
..........bird from paradise..........

Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
—Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
User avatar
isadora
 
Posts: 2766
Joined: Mar 25th, '11, 16:03
Location: Netherlands

Re: Nautilus's Logic is weird!

Postby MisteRibi » Aug 4th, '12, 16:22

doktor5000 wrote:What's the problem with the information on that screenshot?
You selected eight folder and two files. Those occupy ~84,5 GiB on the drive,
and contain 62417 folders and 6857 files altogether. The partition where all that resides on has
3,8 GiB free space, and the size of that partition is 102.8GiB and is 97% full.

The problem is that 102.8 - ~84.5 isn't equal 3.8
That's the problem!

isadora wrote:
doktor5000 wrote:..........
BTW, that is not nautilus, but Dolphin, see the icon in the upper left corner.

.....and also the text "Dolphin" in the right in the tab. ;)


Sorry, I have been a long time in gnome based :/
MisteRibi
 
Posts: 9
Joined: Aug 1st, '12, 19:01

Re: Nautilus's Logic is weird!

Postby doktor5000 » Aug 4th, '12, 22:57

MisteRibi wrote:The problem is that 102.8 - ~84.5 isn't equal 3.8
That's the problem!


Maybe you haven't selected all files on that partition, you could miss those in the hidden trashbin, or generally hidden files,
as those are not shown per default ... What do you want to achieve with that in the end?
Cauldron is not for the faint of heart!
Caution: Hot, bubbling magic inside. May explode or cook your kittens!
----
Disclaimer: Beware of allergic reactions in answer to unconstructive complaint-type posts
User avatar
doktor5000
 
Posts: 18058
Joined: Jun 4th, '11, 10:10
Location: Leipzig, Germany

Re: Nautilus's Logic is weird!

Postby MisteRibi » Aug 5th, '12, 00:42

doktor5000 wrote:Maybe you haven't selected all files on that partition, you could miss those in the hidden trashbin, or generally hidden files,
as those are not shown per default ...


I have activate the options for seeing hidden files, and there is no .Trash* anywhere.

doktor5000 wrote:What do you want to achieve with that in the end?


Having the true left size, not the false one, I mean:
be able to use all of my left place not just a litte just because Dolphin(or whenever the problem come from) don't want lol
MisteRibi
 
Posts: 9
Joined: Aug 1st, '12, 19:01

Re: Dolphin's Logic is weird!

Postby doktor5000 » Aug 5th, '12, 15:56

Then check in a terminal via
Code: Select all
du -hs /path/you/want/to/check
or
Code: Select all
df -h /path/you/want/to/check
Replace /path/you/want/to/check with the path you want to check, obviously. The problem could also be that you have many small files, which occupy inodes, and that way they use more space physically on the partition. I.e. they consume more space than their actual file size. df -i will tell you how many inodes are used.

FWIW, the local trashbin resides in ~/.local/share/Trash/files/ and those for external partitions are located at the root of those partitions in a folder called .Trash500.
Cauldron is not for the faint of heart!
Caution: Hot, bubbling magic inside. May explode or cook your kittens!
----
Disclaimer: Beware of allergic reactions in answer to unconstructive complaint-type posts
User avatar
doktor5000
 
Posts: 18058
Joined: Jun 4th, '11, 10:10
Location: Leipzig, Germany

Re: Dolphin's Logic is weird!

Postby MisteRibi » Aug 5th, '12, 19:15

doktor5000 wrote:Then check in a terminal via
Code: Select all
du -hs /path/you/want/to/check

That's the answer:
Code: Select all
93G     /home

doktor5000 wrote:Then check in a terminal via
Code: Select all
df -h /path/you/want/to/check

That's the anser:
Code: Select all
Sys. fich.     Taille Util. Dispo Uti% Monté sur
/dev/sda2        103G   95G  3,2G  97% /home

doktor5000 wrote:The problem could also be that you have many small files, which occupy inodes, and that way they use more space physically on the partition. I.e. they consume more space than their actual file size. df -i will tell you how many inodes are used.

I try it but I don't understant what that mean:
Code: Select all
# df -i /home
Sys. fich.     Inodes IUtil. ILibre IUti% Monté sur
/dev/sda2        6,5M    71K   6,4M    2% /home

doktor5000 wrote:FWIW, the local trashbin resides in ~/.local/share/Trash/files/ and those for external partitions are located at the root of those partitions in a folder called .Trash500.

There is no .Trash500 in the root partitions and all the ~/.local/share/Trash/files/ are empty!
MisteRibi
 
Posts: 9
Joined: Aug 1st, '12, 19:01

Re: Dolphin's Logic is weird!

Postby doktor5000 » Aug 5th, '12, 19:28

So 95GB out of 102GB are used. And only 2% inodes are used, so that shouldn't be a problem.
Cauldron is not for the faint of heart!
Caution: Hot, bubbling magic inside. May explode or cook your kittens!
----
Disclaimer: Beware of allergic reactions in answer to unconstructive complaint-type posts
User avatar
doktor5000
 
Posts: 18058
Joined: Jun 4th, '11, 10:10
Location: Leipzig, Germany

Re: Dolphin's Logic is weird!

Postby MisteRibi » Aug 5th, '12, 21:36

doktor5000 wrote:So 95GB out of 102GB are used. And only 2% inodes are used, so that shouldn't be a problem.

I don't understand your meaning, sorry :/
MisteRibi
 
Posts: 9
Joined: Aug 1st, '12, 19:01


Return to Basic support

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest