Trying to get a 64-bit Distro

[dwhite]

At the moment I'm using a 32-bit Mageia live on my system, but I'm downloading the dual CD as I type I used Mandriva from when it was Mandrake 7.2. As I say I'm trying to get a 64-bit Distro. I moved because I didn't like Mandriva 2011. Would it be possible to only do a dual 32 and 64 live CD?

[doktor5000]

Would it be possible to only do a dual 32 and 64 live CD?

No, as that would be a live DVD. Currently it's even getting more and more difficult to keep the size
of the standard livecd's below 700MB, and your proposal would require to dedicate additional ressources
for this, which are not available, relating to man-power at the moment.

[wilcal]

I've been using Mageia 1 64-bit on this platform:

SandyBridge - Video editing machine

Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz overclocked to 3.8GHz LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core
GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
GIGABYTE GV-N440D3-1GI GeForce GT 440 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B
Thermaltake V9 BlacX Edition with Docking Station
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus CPU Cooler
Kingwin KF-91-BK SATA Mobile Rack
Kingwin KF-91-T-BK SATA Mobile Rack Tray

Almost since the day it was released. As titled it's primarily
used as a video editing platform. I was a very long time user
of Mandriva and was extremely uncomfortable with the performance
of Mandriva 2011. Mageia 2 now in its early Alpha stage looks
to be even better.

I would suggest that the Mageia developers will welcome Mandriva
users to help develop and test Mageia as they would have the
best experience with the Distro structure.

FWIW. The following YouTube ( HD ) videos were all edited on my
Mageia 1 64-bit editing platform. Enjoy the shows:

http://www.youtube.com/user/wilcalint

[wobo]

I would suggest that the Mageia developers will welcome Mandriva
users to help develop and test Mageia as they would have the
best experience with the Distro structure.

Yes, you are right. That's what Mageia has been doing since day #1 - everybody is invited to test and give feedback, this has been announced, spread and shouted out loud for almost one year now. Still the number of testers and constructive feedback could be higher...

[dwhite]

I've got time although I take a lot to do anything. I did use the alias Linux computers on the Mandriva Forum I was trying then to import Netboks with a copylefted OS. Not being able to buy a naked laptop irked me.

[wilcal]

Not being able to buy a naked laptop irked me.

This is a good point. "Naked laptop" I assume is one purchased new
without an OS or a free OS. I have purchased a Dell Vostro 1015 Laptop
with the Linux OS. Cost $329 Basically the OS is free. Dell builds
Laptops ( and computers ) from common parts therefore their
products as I have experienced are very compatible with Linux.
My Vostro laptop runs Mageia 1 and 2 ( Alpha 1 Live-CD ) extremely
well.

Dell customer support has informed me that replacing the funky
Linux OS with another Linux OS does not negate the warranty.

[wobo]

Dell customer support has informed me that replacing the funky
Linux OS with another Linux OS does not negate the warranty.

Well, I would have been very amused if a dell customer support tried to tell me something else

Being able to buy "naked" laptops depends on where you live. There are many dealers over here selling laptops without any OS or with any Linux flavour. My netbook came with SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop, which I dumped before even booting it But I learned that in some regions it seems to be hard to get a "Windowless Computer".

[dwhite]

I eventually got an acer aspire one a natty little netbook with a Teiwaneeze linux pre-installed, it was £199.95, I loaded Mandriva 2009 on it within hours. The pre-installed OS was very fast but very 'lite' I'd previously had a Dell but they were selling machines with no features if you wanted Linux Pre-installed. ie... blue tooth, WiFi etc... stuff that might not have worked then, but with the next release. The dell was a Windows Inspiron 1300 the only thing Mandriva didn't fire up out of the box was the broardcom Wifi for that I had to use the wrappper.

[loanwolf]

you will eather love or hate me im not shure because i am verry new to linux on a long term baises and i have a knack for breaking software

and i have to say so far i am realy likeing this distro for the most part ever thing has been easy for me to use

[JoesCat]

I eventually got an acer aspire one a natty little netbook with a Taiwanese linux pre-installed, it was £199.95, I loaded Mandriva 2009 on it within hours. The pre-installed OS was very fast but very 'lite' I'd previously had a Dell but they were selling machines with no features if you wanted Linux Pre-installed. ie... blue tooth, WiFi etc... stuff that might not have worked then, but with the next release. The dell was a Windows Inspiron 1300 the only thing Mandriva didn't fire up out of the box was the broardcom Wifi for that I had to use the wrappper.

I used to run 2009 on a USB stick since the owner was used to using XP, but with every additional XP update, that little netbook got to a point it ran so damn slow and used up most of the 8GB SSD drive it was just annoying to call it a computer at that point.

I've switched that user from XP to Mageia 1 several months ago. On that same Acer Aspire One Netbook, I had to add a couple of tweaks to speed it up since the SSD isn't very fast to begin with (update fstab and also add another file for fan control), but it's running fine now, and I haven't had to go back and do any more virus cleanups since then either.

[JoesCat]

At the moment I'm using a 32-bit Mageia live on my system, but I'm downloading the dual CD as I type I used Mandriva from when it was Mandrake 7.2. As I say I'm trying to get a 64-bit Distro. I moved because I didn't like Mandriva 2011. Would it be possible to only do a dual 32 and 64 live CD?

You may want to note that some things are fine as 64-bit, but some things you may find more stable to use 32-bit. If that is the case, I would recommend having your /home on one partition, then creating a "/" for 64-bit and a "/" for 32-bit.

If you run like 100% linux, you should be okay with 64-bit. Where I've run into problems are stuff like some must-run apps that run under wine (in which case 32-bit is a better choice for some apps), or if you are running into some computer firmware issues (for example "winmodems" that must run a binary blob on the X86 side to be functional, instead of a true modem which has everything already built-in on the hardware side).

Which path you take (32 or 64), really depends on what you normally run, and what you "must-have". You may find that you're okay with 64-bit and then for the must-run-32-bit, you could run it in another manner, eg some sort of virtualbox, or other method.

[doktor5000]

Huh? You can perfectly run 32bit software on a 64bit system, why two seperate installations?
Also wine running fine here, and wine is a 32bit application, by the way. wine64 is only for
Win64 programs, which are really few.

[JoesCat]

Huh? You can perfectly run 32bit software on a 64bit system, why two seperate installations?
Also wine running fine here, and wine is a 32bit application, by the way. wine64 is only for
Win64 programs, which are really few.

I recall some stability problems with earlier programs in the past (especially when 64-bit linux was beginning to appear).

It may just be a case of a new incompatible installer with MPLAB, but I had trouble with the latest MPLAB and haven't gone looking to see if it's due to Wine (under 64bit) or MPLAB (latest version) itself "yet".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPLAB
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=11828&iTestingId=33788

[doktor5000]

Please don't translate one problem of yours to common experience and give advices based on that.
And looking at the AppDB all entries are either bronze, silver or gold rated, which means it works.
The problems will not come from running wine under 64bit.