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Is kaffeine dead?

Postby tarazed » Aug 21st, '14, 13:45

While browsing the basic/video subforum I came across the observation that kaffeine is dead and browsing generally saw that people were saying that back in 2010. I use it for TV only and have found it far easier than anything else to set up and run. It compares very favourably with me-tv. Never could get that to work properly and MythTV is a nightmare - ghastly immersive user interface. Kaffeine TV seemed to develop some faults but nothing I could not live with. There may be other workable alternatives but for the time being I shall stick with kaffeine. Just thought I would get that off my chest.
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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby isadora » Aug 21st, '14, 14:55

Kaffeine seems not really to be dead, as in, there are not any revisions any more.

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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby tarazed » Aug 21st, '14, 18:33

Thanks for looking that up.
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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby doktor5000 » Aug 21st, '14, 19:44

Kaffeine is pretty much dead since quite some time, and there are some bugs since the port to KDE4.
https://www.mail-archive.com/kde-devel@ ... 04046.html <- this is the announcement from the projects overview page, next to - Status: "Inactive"

Better check for https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Plasma_Media_Center - no, that's not yet packaged for Mageia.
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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby doktor5000 » Aug 21st, '14, 20:36

doktor5000 wrote:Better check for https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Plasma_Media_Center - no, that's not yet packaged for Mageia.


If you want to try it out, I can provide a package for Mageia 4 ...
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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby morgano » Aug 26th, '14, 02:11

I would like to try it on mga5 x86_64

- it maybe can be shipped with mga5 ?

I will next week upgrade our "family laptop" to cauldron and would like to grab terrestrial TV like i did on mga4 using kaffeine and a USB stick.
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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby doktor5000 » Aug 26th, '14, 20:08

Sadly I've not got any feedback from KDE team, as I wanted to deprecate kaffeine and import plasma-mediacenter. Will ask again.
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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby morgano » Nov 4th, '14, 22:33

I understand the devs have more urgent things to do getting mga5 out. Just noting:
§ plasma-mediacenter is out in version 1.3 since summer https://dot.kde.org/2014/06/23/plasma-m ... -available
§ version 2 is due in december so i guess it is more efficient to add it in cauldron when mga5 is out, and then soon backport to mga5.
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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby doktor5000 » Nov 4th, '14, 22:56

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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby tarazed » Nov 5th, '14, 13:11

kaffeine is certainly useful, to me anyway. Easy to set up and it supports DVB-T2. And would anything plasma work outside KDE?
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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby morgano » Nov 11th, '14, 19:21

OK thanks.
Oh, I did not know DVB-T is still a work in progress for plasma-mediacenter ( http://www.nikhatzi.gr/?p=45 ), so it is kaffeine for me.
IMO we realy must keep kaffeine then. (and if possible include plasma-mediacenter if things do not collide)
Or do something else in mageia support DVB-T?
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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby doktor5000 » Nov 11th, '14, 20:27

morgano wrote:Or do something else in mageia support DVB-T?

There are other viewers, like me-tv, tvheadend, xawtv
You can also try mythtv, vdr, xbmc, xine, mplayer of vlc.
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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby morgano » Nov 11th, '14, 23:29

OK thanks.
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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby MadmanRB » Nov 17th, '14, 00:58

yeah it seems pretty much done for I suggest just using vlc as VLC it's pretty much the Swiss army knife of media players
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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby morgano » Jan 2nd, '15, 02:02

I sat and could not figure out how to get vlc connect to my dvb-t stick...
Noticed kaffeine is packaged now for cauldron, installed it and it could scan and show channels.
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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby doktor5000 » Jan 2nd, '15, 03:31

morgano wrote:I sat and could not figure out how to get vlc connect to my dvb-t stick...

In VLC -> media -> open capture device -> capture mode -> select TV - digital and it will show a box where default for Tuner card is set to /dev/dvb/adapter0 and below you can select delivery system, e.g. DVB-T or DVB-T2.
Also explained in https://wiki.videolan.org/How_to_Use_a_Capture_Card and http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/VLC_media_player

Although that is more meant for testing purposes, as vlc is not what I'd recommend as regular viewer application for digital TV.
Better use something like me-tv which offers scanning for channels, EPG and convenience stuff like that. At least that's what I'd use for DVB-T.
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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby morgano » Jan 2nd, '15, 03:39

OK thanks :)
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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby rolf » Jul 25th, '15, 21:21

I've, also, tried a number of alternatives and find kaffeine to be the best/only solution for me to easily schedule and record up to two simultaneous OTA ATSC television programs on my dual tuner hauppauge hvr-2250 pcie card. I've set up an HP thin client to do this, for power savings, as I can leave this on for extended periods, unlike the impractical alternative of my 6-disk daily desktop tower. Currently, I run kaffeine 1.2.2-4 under Manjaro on that machine. Some more detail of that arrangement can be seen here: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r29713683-

Looking forward, absent an equivalent alternative, I would need some way, possibly another distro's rpm or build my own binary, if not a package from Mageia, which is kaffeine-1.2.2-6.mga5 on my desktop, tyvm, if I am to migrate the thin client to MGA.
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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby jkerr82508 » Jul 25th, '15, 22:08

Perhaps I misunderstand your question, but kaffeine-1.2.2-6.mga5 is available in the core repo. So if it is replaced that will not happen until mga6 at the earliest.

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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby rolf » Jul 25th, '15, 22:16

I said, "a package from Mageia, which is kaffeine-1.2.2-6.mga5 on my desktop, tyvm" but I wanted to "weigh in" about the enduring usefulness of this "dead" or undeveloped program, just speaking up in favor of kaffeine "Looking forward".
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Re: Is kaffeine dead?

Postby rolf » Aug 1st, '15, 23:07

jkerr82508 wrote:.... kaffeine-1.2.2-6.mga5 is available in the core repo.
Jim


Epilogue: For some reason, kaffeine lost track of the tuner card in the Manjaro installation on the thin client and I suspected this to be one of the several things that seem to have gotten lost during the larger software upgrades. The firmware was still being loaded, according to dmesg, so I took the opportunity to install MGA5, along with kaffeine, and make the various configurations to get my OTA recording thin client station up and running. All is working well, thanks.
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