An exercise in boredom with Win 10

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An exercise in boredom with Win 10

Postby zxr250cc » Jan 17th, '23, 05:43

Hi all,

I am still getting clean used Think Pads from fleabay and have had a couple come with Win 10 newly installed in them. Myself, having quit all Microsoft some time back, it is interesting to see how slow a laptop can be with Win 10 on it. This is an i7, 2.9 GHZ CPU with 8 GB of ram. This laptop flies with Linux and crawls with Win10. I did a dual boot install and am now planning to just go ahead and wipe the drive and reinstall Linux as the sheer slowness of 10 is actually irritating.

As a side note, as of the 8th it is twenty five years since buying a box with Red Hat 5 in it in Honolulu while passing through. !!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is so much easier to install and use Linux these days.

The choice of the kernel and other items in 9 are all nice to see.

Thanks all for all your efforts!

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Re: An exercise in boredom with Win 10

Postby benmc » Jan 18th, '23, 20:04

why not just delete/format the Windows partition(s) (and create a new partition if required) and then update the bootloader to remove the Windows entry?
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Re: An exercise in boredom with Win 10

Postby zxr250cc » Jan 18th, '23, 20:39

To delete Windows was the plan before buying the used Think Pads. I give them to non computer owning friends with Linux on them to get away from Microsoft data mining and bloat. The dual install was to see if the UEFI based install would work and it did. Once tried is enough. They will be wiped now. I'll have Linux on them before gifting others. My comments were just to highlight how much of system memory use is wasted with all the crap in Windows slowing the laptop down. It is a shame there is no program like System Monitor included in Win 10 to show all the background data usage as there is in various Linux distros.

I must note: did you see the part mentioning wiping the drive and reinstall with new Linux? Using SSD drives an install is very little time to do.

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Re: An exercise in boredom with Win 10

Postby doktor5000 » Jan 18th, '23, 23:31

zxr250cc wrote:It is a shame there is no program like System Monitor included in Win 10 to show all the background data usage as there is in various Linux distros.

Not sure what "background data usage" you're referring to. You can easily see what you're asking for in the details view in task manager or in the ressource monitor.
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Re: An exercise in boredom with Win 10

Postby zxr250cc » Jan 19th, '23, 02:16

Hi all,

Thanks for the reply.

System Monitor lets you see RAM usage and CPU % usage in real time at the same time. Windows does not replicate that sort of real time usage visual display program. Yes it offers info, just not the same way. (I suspect you know this better than me.)

The same hardware and memory runs slower for response time to commands in Win10 than with any Live or installed Linux distro I have used lately and the sheer slowness of it caused me to write the initial post. Having the program installed in the laptops made it detract somewhat from their appeal to me but it is easy to wipe a hard drive. Using Win 10 before erasing it was just reminding myself how I am glad it is not the daily software in use. As all computers in use by me are for my own use and not shared with others it is easy to leave Microsoft off all my stuff. I also don't have to go into the Linux software and turn off every version of data mining in it as this is so prevalent in current Windows software. I did that in the Win 10 in the drive before wiping it. That is 30-45minutes worth of search and stop for all the many ways they try to monetize your usage of your computer. Anyone thinking they have any privacy at all while Microsoft software is with default settings is sadly mistaken.

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Re: An exercise in boredom with Win 10

Postby doktor5000 » Jan 19th, '23, 23:40

zxr250cc wrote:System Monitor lets you see RAM usage and CPU % usage in real time at the same time. Windows does not replicate that sort of real time usage visual display program. Yes it offers info, just not the same way.

The task manager performance tab does show that on the left hand side. But I guess you just don't like windows.
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Re: An exercise in boredom with Win 10

Postby zxr250cc » Jan 20th, '23, 02:45

Hi all,

Windows.

3 sucked, 3.1 was better, 95 was bad, 98 fairly good, SE was horrible, XP was good, 7 OK, 8 terrible, 8.1 OK, 10 fairly good. I think XP was my favorite. Linux is better for me. I am not going to ever use 11 so have no reference for how it will be. So far it seems like beta ware from all the forums on line talking about it and the major changes each time they do a big patch. Maybe it will be good. Who knows at this point? End of this month Microsoft stop selling new licenses for retail 10 customers and support ends in 2025.

Some folks keep talking about the 'Year of Linux" desktop and wondering when it will happen. That was 2007 for me as then I started using Linux as the primary software in my home network with an XP laptop computer as an auxiliary unit and later on a desktop one to match a network set up overseas.

Again, thanks for all the hard work on the new release of 9.

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Re: An exercise in boredom with Win 10

Postby isadora » Jan 20th, '23, 09:03

Well for me Windows ME was some nightmare-OS.

Since i bought a brand new laptop last month with GeForce RTX 3070 TI-card, and Windows 11 pre-installed, i had some spare time to spend on this latest Windows-branch, 11.
Must say, it feels like walking around as a cat in a strange warehouse, but after some fiddling around could customize it according to my wishes.
I am in the wait for Mageia 9 to make it my OS-of-choice when it arrives, and hope for proper support regarding the graphic-card, but it always worked so no doubts.
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Re: An exercise in boredom with Win 10

Postby zxr250cc » Jan 20th, '23, 13:36

Hi all,

My error, as it was ME not SE I was thinking about. One of my business clients removed it and installed 98 Second Edition to get a good working laptop as ME was so buggy. If you liked DOS games, as many of us did, 98 was easy to tune for that. One thing I learned at that time also was how bad Windows was at removing old temp files, leaving garbage always and gradually choking the system with the clutter. During boot delete the temp file, create a new temp file and then set the created temp file to use for all temp files so that all the clutter was removed each time you booted the system by editing the registry. It worked well. 10 did try to fix that. One of the tuneup methods for all later Windows versions I used for years was manually deleting all the temp files and then defragging the HD to get a system working better. Not needed with Linux, thankfully.

On a personal note, i will say a prayer for your improving health.


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Re: An exercise in boredom with Win 10

Postby isadora » Jan 20th, '23, 19:15

Thank you, appreciate.

Health improves step-by-step after stem-cell-transplantation back in December.
Cancer has gone 100%, and donated cells settled 100%, which is best situation, that could be wished for.
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Re: An exercise in boredom with Win 10

Postby zxr250cc » Jan 20th, '23, 19:49

Hi all,

Myself and probably many others in here have been touched by cancer in our families with many of us having lost loved ones as a result. Your being in recovery from that is a very good thing.

Maybe Windows ME was 98 SE with cancer? Maybe? The cure, of course was XP.

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Re: An exercise in boredom with Win 10

Postby AstorBG » Jan 27th, '23, 20:48

Aahhh nostalgia Windows Vista ... so beatiful, so nice and so usless. Nowadays, using just linux with Vistar theming :-)
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