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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby tandrews16 » Oct 22nd, '14, 17:52

Tried the updates on both machines that were affected. They worked on the Dell Dimension e310 (P4 processor, desktop kernel) but did not work on the machine with the AMD Sempron 3100+ processor that uses the server kernel. As before, booting into safe mode and then using "Control-D" to continue avoids the problem.

Please post the command to downgrade from the test dbus. Not sure what I did wrong, but the one given above doesn't work, whether I use it as posted, or if I change the version numbers of the packages from ***.3 to ***.6. All it will say is that there are no packages with those names in the database.
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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby jkerr82508 » Oct 22nd, '14, 18:20

The downgrade commands are the same as I posted earlier:
64 bit
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urpmi --downgrade dbus-1.6.18-1.3.mga4 lib64dbus1_3-1.6.18-1.3.mga4 dbus-x11-1.6.18-1.3.mga4

32 bit
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urpmi --downgrade dbus-1.6.18-1.3.mga4 libdbus1_3-1.6.18-1.3.mga4 dbus-x11-1.6.18-1.3.mga4

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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby tandrews16 » Oct 22nd, '14, 18:45

I get this error message:

No package named dbus-1.6.18-1.3.mga4
No package named libdbus1_3-1.6.18-1.3.mga4
No package named dbus-x11-1.6.18-1.3.mga4
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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby jkerr82508 » Oct 22nd, '14, 19:15

Those packages are in /core/updates. Do you have that repo enabled and is it up-to-date?

What is the result of:
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urpmq --sources libdbus1_3-1.6.18-1.3.mga4

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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby tandrews16 » Oct 22nd, '14, 20:17

I got "No package named libdbus1_3-1.6.18-1.3.mga4" both before and after using MCC to update the databases. MCC said all were up-to-date. But then I discovered I was still using whatever MIRRORLIST had assigned to me. (I thought I had changed that a while back) I changed to the US kernel.org mirror, and that took care of it. dbus now downgraded again.

Strange that whatever mirror I was using had the test packages but not the downgrade packages. Should I try the test packages again, now getting them from the kernel.org mirror? Doesn't seem like it would make a difference, but...
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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby jkerr82508 » Oct 22nd, '14, 20:45

mirrorlist does not use the same mirror every time. It's likely that when you tried to downgrade it was using an outdated mirror, but had used another up-to-date mirror when you installed the testing packages.

Switching to a specific mirror, as you have done, avoids that sort of problem

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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby bots4ever » Oct 23rd, '14, 16:32

Thank you for providing the steps above. I can say that the issue seems to be gone although I noticed that the responsiveness of login and logout is a bit slower if I compare my experience with the previous files listed below.

dbus-1.6.18-1.3.mga4
lib64dbus1_3-1.6.18-1.3.mga4
dbus-x11-1.6.18-1.3.mga4

Some questions:
The patch is obviously placed under "Core Updates Testing" if this patch is pushed to the normal repository (Core Updates), will I get the same update or would it skip it? (or maybe it doesn't get pushed to other repositories other than "Core Updates Testing").

Will the same commands work if my upgrade fails? I am asking this because I am also planning to test this on other 32bit and 64bit machines that I haven't updated for quite some time

urpmi --downgrade dbus-1.6.18-1.3.mga4 libdbus1_3-1.6.18-1.3.mga4 dbus-x11-1.6.18-1.3.mga4
urpmi --downgrade dbus-1.6.18-1.3.mga4 lib64dbus1_3-1.6.18-1.3.mga4 dbus-x11-1.6.18-1.3.mga4
Never mind this I just saw the answer above as I refreshed the page. Thanks.
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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby bots4ever » Oct 23rd, '14, 16:40

tandrews16 wrote:I got "No package named libdbus1_3-1.6.18-1.3.mga4" both before and after using MCC to update the databases. MCC said all were up-to-date. But then I discovered I was still using whatever MIRRORLIST had assigned to me. (I thought I had changed that a while back) I changed to the US kernel.org mirror, and that took care of it. dbus now downgraded again.

Strange that whatever mirror I was using had the test packages but not the downgrade packages. Should I try the test packages again, now getting them from the kernel.org mirror? Doesn't seem like it would make a difference, but...


This might help
http://mirrors.mageia.org/status

I selected 1 http and 1 ftp mirror (NL and JP respectively) and added it on top of my $MIRRORLIST
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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby jkerr82508 » Oct 23rd, '14, 16:56

If this is the "ultimate" solution, those packages will eventually be pushed to /core/updates. Since you already have them, MageiaUpdate will not report them as updates.
If there are more test versions produced before the update is validated for release, then MageiaUpdate will report as updates the packages that are eventually released.
If you are satisfied that your system is now running correctly, you can remove the three lines that you added to /etc/urpmi/skip-list.

The slightly slower login/logout may be due to the fact that the timeout for certain services has been increased.

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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby bots4ever » Oct 24th, '14, 01:44

jkerr82508 wrote:If this is the "ultimate" solution, those packages will eventually be pushed to /core/updates. Since you already have them, MageiaUpdate will not report them as updates.
If there are more test versions produced before the update is validated for release, then MageiaUpdate will report as updates the packages that are eventually released.
If you are satisfied that your system is now running correctly, you can remove the three lines that you added to /etc/urpmi/skip-list.

The slightly slower login/logout may be due to the fact that the timeout for certain services has been increased.

Jim


Thanks for clarifying these.
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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby unklar » Oct 24th, '14, 13:45

no more mistakes
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[unklar@localhost ~]$ journalctl -b -a | grep -i dbus
Okt 24 13:26:51 localhost.localdomain systemd[1965]: Failed to open private bus connection: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/500/dbus/user_bus_socket: No such file or directory

[unklar@localhost ~]$ systemctl --failed
0 loaded units listed. Pass --all to see loaded but inactive units, too.
To show all installed unit files use 'systemctl list-unit-files'.

[unklar@localhost ~]$ systemd-analyze blame | head
         13.594s avahi-daemon.service
         10.720s shorewall.service
          2.846s upower.service
          2.622s fedora-loadmodules.service
          2.577s network.service
          2.562s sensord.service
          2.117s atieventsd.service
          1.933s fedora-import-state.service
          1.887s fedora-readonly.service
          1.766s systemd-logind.service

[unklar@localhost ~]$ journalctl -b -p err
-- Logs begin at So 2013-12-15 19:20:13 CET, end at Fr 2014-10-24 13:26:56 CEST.

[unklar@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa | grep dbus
dbus-sharp-glib-0.5.0-3.mga4
dbus-1.6.18-1.6.mga4
lib64dbus1_3-1.6.18-1.6.mga4
ndesk-dbus-0.6.1a-9.mga4
lib64qtdbus4-4.8.6-1.mga4
lib64dbus-glib1_2-0.100.2-2.mga4
dbus-sharp-0.7.0-3.mga4
dbus-x11-1.6.18-1.6.mga4
python-dbus-1.2.0-5.mga4
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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby canadaist » Oct 24th, '14, 15:52

I also had this bug, very very slow boot, 10 minutes, downgraded dbus as above, rebooted and now running fast as before.

I also as above, added the skip.list changes
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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby jkerr82508 » Oct 24th, '14, 16:07

@canadaist
If you would like to try the test packages, see:
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=8564#p52362

If they don't work for you, you can downgrade as before.

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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby unklar » Oct 24th, '14, 19:53

KDE
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[unklar@localhost ~]$ journalctl -b -a | grep -i dbus
Okt 24 19:31:40 localhost systemd[2045]: Failed to open private bus connection: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/500/dbus/user_bus_socket: No such file or directory

[unklar@localhost ~]$ systemctl --failed
UNIT                       LOAD   ACTIVE SUB    DESCRIPTION
atieventsd.service         loaded failed failed LSB: ATI Events Daemon
fedora-loadmodules.service loaded failed failed Load legacy module configuration

LOAD   = Reflects whether the unit definition was properly loaded.
ACTIVE = The high-level unit activation state, i.e. generalization of SUB.
SUB    = The low-level unit activation state, values depend on unit type.

2 loaded units listed. Pass --all to see loaded but inactive units, too.
To show all installed unit files use 'systemctl list-unit-files'.

[unklar@localhost ~]$ systemd-analyze blame | head
         14.431s ntpdate.service
          6.204s network.service
          6.033s systemd-logind.service
          6.027s ntp-wait.service
          6.007s avahi-daemon.service
          5.015s atieventsd.service
          5.002s systemd-udev-settle.service
          3.395s shorewall.service
          3.322s mandriva-everytime.service
          3.243s plymouth-quit-wait.service

[unklar@localhost ~]$ journalctl -b -p err
-- Logs begin at Do 2013-10-03 19:18:49 CEST, end at Fr 2014-10-24 19:31:46 CEST. --
Okt 24 19:31:45 localhost pulseaudio[2339]: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.

[unklar@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa | grep dbus
lib64dbus-glib1_2-0.100.2-2.mga4
lib64qtdbus4-4.8.6-1.mga4
dbus-x11-1.6.18-1.6.mga4
python-dbus-1.2.0-5.mga4
dbus-1.6.18-1.6.mga4
python-slip-dbus-0.4.0-3.mga4
lib64dbus1_3-1.6.18-1.6.mga4
qt4-qtdbus-4.8.6-1.mga4
lib64dbusmenu-qt2-0.9.2-3.mga4
python-qt4-dbus-4.10.3-3.mga4

Good work! ;)
many thanks, @jkerr82508 and all!
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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby jkerr82508 » Oct 25th, '14, 13:42

New test packages are becoming available:
https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14251#c29

If the previous set of test packages did not resolve the problem for you, you should install these packages. Execute the following two commands:

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urpmi.update "Core Updates Testing"

and, on a 64 bit system:
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urpmi --media "Core Updates Testing" dbus-1.6.18-1.7.mga4 lib64dbus1_3-1.6.18-1.7.mga4 dbus-x11-1.6.18-1.7.mga4

on a 32 bit system:
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urpmi --media "Core Updates Testing" dbus-1.6.18-1.7.mga4 libdbus1_3-1.6.18-1.7.mga4 dbus-x11-1.6.18-1.7.mga4

You do NOT need to activate the testing repo's.

Please report in the bug report if they solve the problem for you.

If they solve the problem, don't forget to remove the three lines that you added to /etc/urpmi/skip.list

Unless there are reports of problems with these packages, they will be released eventually as official updates.

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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby tandrews16 » Oct 25th, '14, 15:24

The latest version (.7) appears to have fixed things on the machine where the last one didn't work. Haven't tested it on the one where the last one DID work, but am not anticipating any problems there, either.
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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby canadaist » Oct 26th, '14, 19:03

jkerr82508 wrote:New test packages are becoming available:
https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14251#c29

If the previous set of test packages did not resolve the problem for you, you should install these packages. Execute the following two commands:

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urpmi.update "Core Updates Testing"

and, on a 64 bit system:
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urpmi --media "Core Updates Testing" dbus-1.6.18-1.7.mga4 lib64dbus1_3-1.6.18-1.7.mga4 dbus-x11-1.6.18-1.7.mga4

on a 32 bit system:
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urpmi --media "Core Updates Testing" dbus-1.6.18-1.7.mga4 libdbus1_3-1.6.18-1.7.mga4 dbus-x11-1.6.18-1.7.mga4

You do NOT need to activate the testing repo's.

Please report in the bug report if they solve the problem for you.

If they solve the problem, don't forget to remove the three lines that you added to /etc/urpmi/skip.list

Unless there are reports of problems with these packages, they will be released eventually as official updates.

Jim


These are no longer in Core Updates Testing, but Core Updates doesnt seem to have a new one yet. Sorry it took so long to test for you. Is there another test or I am now waiting for Core Updates to show a new one?
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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby doktor5000 » Oct 26th, '14, 19:06

You should check your mirror, packages are still there:

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┌─[doktor5000@Mageia4]─[18:02:21]─[~]
└──╼ curl ftp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/mageia/distrib/4/x86_64/media/core/updates_testing/ | grep dbus | grep '1.6.18-1.7.mga4'
######################################################################## 100,0%
-rw-r--r--    1 ftp      ftp        275619 Oct 25 09:22 dbus-1.6.18-1.7.mga4.x86_64.rpm
-rw-r--r--    2 ftp      ftp       1421724 Oct 25 09:22 dbus-doc-1.6.18-1.7.mga4.noarch.rpm
-rw-r--r--    1 ftp      ftp         23506 Oct 25 09:22 dbus-x11-1.6.18-1.7.mga4.x86_64.rpm
-rw-r--r--    1 ftp      ftp         27473 Oct 25 09:22 lib64dbus-devel-1.6.18-1.7.mga4.x86_64.rpm
-rw-r--r--    1 ftp      ftp        121744 Oct 25 09:22 lib64dbus1_3-1.6.18-1.7.mga4.x86_64.rpm
┌─[doktor5000@Mageia4]─[18:05:17]─[~]
└──╼ curl ftp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/mageia/distrib/4/i586/media/core/updates_testing/ | grep dbus | grep '1.6.18-1.7.mga4'
######################################################################## 100,0%
-rw-r--r--    1 ftp      ftp        279238 Oct 25 09:22 dbus-1.6.18-1.7.mga4.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r--    2 ftp      ftp       1421724 Oct 25 09:22 dbus-doc-1.6.18-1.7.mga4.noarch.rpm
-rw-r--r--    1 ftp      ftp         22287 Oct 25 09:22 dbus-x11-1.6.18-1.7.mga4.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r--    1 ftp      ftp         27472 Oct 25 09:22 libdbus-devel-1.6.18-1.7.mga4.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r--    1 ftp      ftp        122427 Oct 25 09:22 libdbus1_3-1.6.18-1.7.mga4.i586.rpm
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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby canadaist » Oct 26th, '14, 19:54

Yep, just re-doing the same commands by up arrow a couple of times installed it. I have rebooted and there are no slowness issues. Also, was it actually a quicker boot? I dont often reboot, so maybe its just me.

And now I have removed the additions to skiplist
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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby Weatherlawyer » Oct 27th, '14, 19:58

Oh man I just came here to see how to reverse the last update. It's like I have gone back 5 or 10 years to the bad old days of Windows XP.
Should I be running AVG on this thing in default or Safe mode or what?

OK now it's time to RTFM.
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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby xboxboy » Oct 27th, '14, 23:58

LOL, I hope that was supposed to be in a fun tone. As a community run distro, this is the first update that I know of that's affected many users. In the scheme of things that is simply amazing. Compare a group of people working on an OS in their own time with minimal resources to access, then look at M$ or AAPL and see the resources and man power they have: My brother in-law says his iPhone is on iOS8 v4 and only come good on the last update.

So, we had a bug, were offered a way to roll back the update easily, abnd we offered to install the new updated packages only to test. All with a few commands to be entered in CLI. It's amazing I think.

The Mageia team do awesome. I'm proud to spread the word and their work.
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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby Weatherlawyer » Oct 28th, '14, 00:51

I don't think it is a Mageia problem so much as a Firefox one. I should have started my own thread. When the box upgraded the other day, the version of firefox was totally different and unwanted. I don't like it at all. It seizes up too now and then just like XP used to in the good old days.

A shut down and reboot clears it so it isn't a virus. I'm hoping the next upgrade will sort it.
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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby tandrews16 » Oct 28th, '14, 01:28

Weatherlawyer wrote:I don't think it is a Mageia problem so much as a Firefox one. I should have started my own thread.


Yeah, I think you have a different issue and need a different thread. This one is about a recent dbus upgrade that caused some systems to be very slow to boot. Nothing to do with Firefox.
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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby Weatherlawyer » Oct 28th, '14, 01:45

Sorry about that.
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Re: Recent update causing slow login

Postby jkerr82508 » Oct 28th, '14, 16:13

Official updates, which should provide the ultimate solution to this problem, are now on their way to the mirrors. You can now remove the dbus packages from /etc/urpmi/skip.list. Check the packages that MageiaUpdate offers. They should include: dbus-1.6.18-1.7.mga4 lib(64)dbus1_3-1.6.18-1.7.mga4 dbus-x11-1.6.18-1.7.mga4. "7" should be the last digit, before the mga4, in the Release number.

If the packages offered by MageiaUpdate have "4" as the final digit in the Release number (before the mga4), it means that your mirror has not yet updated. Cancel the update and try again later.

(Updates are also being made available available for Mageia 3. Those have version-release number 1.6.8-4.7.)

http://advisories.mageia.org/MGAA-2014-0182.html

Jim

Edit: to clarify use of version/release :)
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