Mageia is Democracy?

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Mageia is Democracy?

Postby Mag » Jun 22nd, '11, 20:29

Perhaps even gives an idea Mageia Marketing team.

The intention is not to attack Canonical and Ubuntu, but I remembered that there is much talk about Ubuntu and Canonical are said that are not a democracy. Mageia is different, your organization and all of its community (technical and non technical users) is different. Here we invite you to collaborate and hear what we have to say ... or at least I feel, what do you think?.

I have seen many Ubuntu users who complain and would like to speak, or at least be consulted about decisions that affect all. So someone at Canonical can change the colors and design of windows overnight without consulting the users... Imagine, imagine what else can Canonical...
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Re: Mageia is Democracy?

Postby wobo » Jun 23rd, '11, 01:47

Yes, making a point in our status as a community based distribution and our governance model is one of the strategies marketing will use (although I don't understand everything they are planning :) ).

BTW: Canonical can do everything with Ubuntu as long as they stick to the GPL and/or other licenses of the single software packages. The name and the infrastructure belong to Canonical and it's employees of Canonical who are the PTBs. It's almost the same situation as with Mandriva SA and Mandriva Linux, just so that Canonical/Shuttleworth do not tell the users.
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Re: Mageia is Democracy?

Postby Mag » Jun 28th, '11, 21:35

I agree with you. If Canonical can do whatever you want with Ubuntu, has every right and I feel very good that companies want to make money with open source but I also like to listen to the community but life is gray.

In my humble opinion, for example Debian (the organization and members of the organization) to the way they relate to companies but retain its autonomy and its ideals. And if a company wants to offer service and support Debian can. For examples: (Partners, CDs/DVDs Vendors, Computer vendors that pre-install Debian and others...

I have a match with Jesse Smith (of Distrowatch) about Canonical and Ubuntu. Perhaps the major benefit is Linux Mint and perhaps Mageia can also benefit. Although innovate and keep users must be very difficult, especially those who resist change and have a hard time adapting. I have hope that Mageia find balance.

I also remember the story of Mandriva, if the license is respected is legal. Also the fork and start a new project ...
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Re: Mageia is Democracy?

Postby Garthhh » Jul 7th, '11, 14:42

I'm one of those complaining Ubuntu users
I would favor an open model
I understand that some of the functions don't lend themselves to interaction with the entire community. these things could be read only. the devs & other mail lists are a little hard to follow, possibly a few limited access sections of the forum?
there is no reason not to put it all out there, as long as it doesn't require someone to move stuff around daily
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Re: Mageia is Democracy?

Postby ennael » Jul 13th, '11, 12:47

Todo lists are just big :).

Anyway anything happening in Mageia community is all opened. You can check it on:
- mailing-lists: register or have a look on archives
- meetings: they are all available on http://meetbot.mageia.org
- decisions: they are all proposed in a public way
- governance: have a look here: http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=org
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Re: Mageia is Democracy?

Postby Mag » Nov 17th, '11, 01:05

Yes, Anne, thank you ...

Debian distribution was always attracted by their community and that is independent of a company but not a friendly distribution like Mandriva, Ubuntu and Suse on the ease and convenience in use and time savings that implies .. . But the model of Red Hat and Novell (now Attachmate) is very interesting and cute as a Free and Open Software Company but their distributions are not for home users and families are businesses and organizations. And Ubuntu has Canonical ... I need a distro for use in the home and family.
Although now I'm using Windows because my family needs either for my brother in college or to help them do a job.

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