teaage wrote:EDIT:
This one I can edit (and delete) but the other post not? Confusing ...
rtb wrote:Older people can't cope with major changes.
stormi wrote:Part of what you wrote I didn't understand, but if you are asking for newer versions of certains applications, you already can issue backport requests.
PietroTux88 wrote:stormi wrote:Part of what you wrote I didn't understand, but if you are asking for newer versions of certains applications, you already can issue backport requests.
yes i say backport request staff mageia forum if possible have emerald,emerald themes and libs,pidgin all plugins,gnomealsamixer,cinelerra 4.2 and git version 2.1,compiz-fusion-icon (this is important).Mageia can be great dist with many packages request to users.Please don't ask me to send to bugzilla please i don't know use bugzilla if possible can admin user forum mageia request this please.
stormi wrote:PietroTux88 wrote:stormi wrote:Part of what you wrote I didn't understand, but if you are asking for newer versions of certains applications, you already can issue backport requests.
yes i say backport request staff mageia forum if possible have emerald,emerald themes and libs,pidgin all plugins,gnomealsamixer,cinelerra 4.2 and git version 2.1,compiz-fusion-icon (this is important).Mageia can be great dist with many packages request to users.Please don't ask me to send to bugzilla please i don't know use bugzilla if possible can admin user forum mageia request this please.
When Mageia App Db will be ready, you will be able to ask easily for newer versions in a single click. However, until then, the only answer I can bring is exactly what you guessed : fill one package request per package on bugzilla. Saying "I don't know how to use bugzilla" is not a valid reason for not doing it, because there are people here who can explain you how to do it
Side note : as soon as the backports media will be open for change (soon), I will try to backport as much needed applications as possible, using the backports_testing media for testing. If you are ready to help testing those backports, it would be useful (this offer goes for anyone who wants to help, of course !)
rtb wrote:I like the look and feel of Megeia and I am considering it as a replacement for my systems but I would like to be sure on the future plans before making the jump.
gotang wrote:rtb wrote:I like the look and feel of Megeia and I am considering it as a replacement for my systems but I would like to be sure on the future plans before making the jump.
I share this sentiment entirely. I'd like a little more certainty before I cross over from Mandriva to Mageia. Is anyone in a position to shed some light on when a final decision on this matter might be made?
zack wrote:My current thinking is more a simple balanced and conservative approach :
- longer release cycle (1 year)
- longer maintainance period (2-3 years)
- some "testing / stable" backports
Or a variant based on a 6 month releases, with shorter maintenance (1-2 year), but a LTS version every 18 month (3-4 years).
PietroTux88 wrote:mageia must be rolling release please with stability and fix bugs applications
maat wrote:PietroTux88 wrote:mageia must be rolling release please with stability and fix bugs applications
These two demands (in bold) contradict each other
Unless a miracle occurs we can not square the circle
The system in Mandriva and Mageia is the same.
Cooker and Cauldron will always be rolling. Befor each release there will be a feature freeze (just a short time), where no new software versions will be implement (but updates), just to ensure the the stability. At the moment of the release Cauldron will be the same like Mageia 1 (for example). If you don't change your repositories after the release, the developer will bring all the new stuff to cauldron (and so to you).
But IF you change the repos to Mageia 1, you will stick with Mageia 1.
So, for now you have a Cauldron installation. Don't change anything and easly update your system with
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urpmi --auto-update
frequently and you will always have the latest available software for mageia (=> rolling release).
TeaAge
zack wrote:No experience of rolling distro, so difficult to have qualified opinion.
What is clear, is that i need to CONTROL stability (and not be trapped, by a "global" dependencies update avalanche).
Then frozen is logical with "long" release cycle. The shorther you release, to remain "up to date", the more "rolling" becomes "natural evolution".
Another point is workload (to develop, to package, to test, to maintain all the variant of packages), and culture/habit (efficiency) of dev. The decision is driven by this of course.
My current thinking is more a simple balanced and conservative approach :
- longer release cycle (1 year)
- longer maintainance period (2-3 years)
- some "testing / stable" backports
Or a variant based on a 6 month releases, with shorter maintenance (1-2 year), but a LTS version every 18 month (3-4 years).
corbintech wrote:I agree with a lot of what has been said. We really don't need yet another stack of CDs devoted to distro-X (OK this is in my case lol)
I think rolling is the way to go! The only problem is finding a way to satisfy those whom want pure stable.
Here is what I propose:
Unstable- This is the place where it all starts! Packages come from upstream end up here and move forward if no show stopper bugs are found
Rolling Unstable- Packages that leave Unstable come here to be tested for stability and made stable... Bleeding edge rolling (Debian Unstable)
Rolling Stable- Packages that are stable in Rolling Unstable for X amount of time come here.... Stable rolling (Arch)
Point releases- These releases are taken from the stable rolling release and supported for X amount of time... Security updates only
LTS release- These are rock solid stable (Debian stable) and snap shots from point release on whole number
So we would have unstable (easy to understand), unstable rolling for those who want cutting edge software, stable rolling for those who want to roll stable, point releases for those who like to install every now and then and LTS which after the way down the line should be VERY stable!
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