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[Comment] Mageia Cauldron is Excellent

PostPosted: Oct 10th, '24, 00:54
by coaxguy99
No support request this time. I just wanted to congratulate the Mageia team for the excellent work you do. I am rocking on Cauldron with the Cinnamon Desktop (X11) and loving it. I have gradually been replacing my eight laptops with Mageia Cauldron because after using it for the past couple of months, I have found I prefer Mageia Cauldron over Mint, Fedora, Manjaro, and OpenSUSE. My only wish is that Mageia would have the printer automatically detected and configured the way it is with new installs of the distros I mentioned above. As far as I'm concerned, Cauldron should be a top 10 distro on Distrowatch. I know it used to be and I tried to switch over at Mageia 2 but I wasn't a fan of legacy grub and I didn't try again until Mageia 9 beta when I became a fan. I think a top priority should be finding a volunteer who is a global marketing expert to get Mageia the kind of attention MX Linux (personally not a fan) has.

Alben

Re: [Comment] Mageia Cauldron is Excellent

PostPosted: Oct 10th, '24, 02:01
by Germ
You know Cauldron is the development release?

It can and will break. Not often, but it does happen...

Re: [Comment] Mageia Cauldron is Excellent

PostPosted: Oct 10th, '24, 02:16
by coaxguy99
Germ wrote:You know Cauldron is the development release?

It can and will break. Not often, but it does happen...


I know and that's okay. If it breaks, I'll just reinstall.

Re: [Comment] Mageia Cauldron is Excellent

PostPosted: Oct 10th, '24, 02:18
by Germ
OK, sounds good. My main machine is running Cauldron. :mrgreen:

Re: [Comment] Mageia Cauldron is Excellent

PostPosted: Oct 10th, '24, 02:54
by coaxguy99
Germ wrote:OK, sounds good. My main machine is running Cauldron. :mrgreen:


My big wish is Mageia would become a rolling release with periodic live install .iso updates. Maybe have a test repo and hold back for a few days to fix any major problems, and then move to main. Cauldron is already so close to being just that.

Re: [Comment] Mageia Cauldron is Excellent

PostPosted: Oct 10th, '24, 03:10
by Germ
Yes, that would be nice and has been discussed. But wasn't well received. For one reason not enough of a test base.

Mageia is a relatively small distro. Which is surprising when you consider how good it is.

Re: [Comment] Mageia Cauldron is Excellent

PostPosted: Oct 10th, '24, 03:41
by coaxguy99
So true, but I remember when Mandriva was one of the largest. I used it then and it was very good, but Mageia is now even better. I wish the rolling release idea was better received. There is no way it could break more than Arch and the distros that use Arch's repositories. I used Antergos and later, Reborn, for three or four years and I had to read forums and fix things at least every other month, as did practically everyone else (because of things in the Arch repo, not the downstream). My issue with Mageia 9 is that things such as the desktop environments can be several revisions older than what's in Cauldron and may not even be updated until the next major release. I feel like that is too long. I expect if Mageia did go to a rolling release, interest would increase and the testers would come.

Re: [Comment] Mageia Cauldron is Excellent

PostPosted: Oct 10th, '24, 09:30
by morgano
One idea I have mentioned earlier for people who use Cauldron as rolling release:
When things break, you may want to roll back package versions, but the repos do not hold old package versions.
You want to use a local repo that keeps all packages of every version you ever install. Preferably without downloading what you do not use.

We already have that solution
Set up urpmi-proxy on one system, and when installing Cauldron, use netinstaller and set it to use that urpmi-proxy as repo.
When installed set system to use repos on that urpmi-proxy.
Buy default urpmi-proxy keep all versions of any packages it ever buffred.
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Urpmi-proxy
There is also a script to rinse old versions.

Before I had high bandwidth internet, urpmi-proxy saved me much download time and size when several local machines used same proxied data.

Re: [Comment] Mageia Cauldron is Excellent

PostPosted: Oct 10th, '24, 13:22
by microchip
There are enough (excellent) rolling distros around. No need to make Mageia one as well. I do not approve :P

Re: [Comment] Mageia Cauldron is Excellent

PostPosted: Oct 10th, '24, 20:28
by benmc
coaxguy99 wrote:
Germ wrote:OK, sounds good. My main machine is running Cauldron. :mrgreen:


My big wish is Mageia would become a rolling release with periodic live install .iso updates. Maybe have a test repo and hold back for a few days to fix any major problems, and then move to main. Cauldron is already so close to being just that.


At this point I would suggest that, quite literally, roll your own.
Having just written that, I had, just this week, tried to roll my own, using draklive2 to create a "Live".iso.
see => https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Draklive & https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Draklive2

obviously doing something wrong, because it failed to create the "Live".iso :(

Re: [Comment] Mageia Cauldron is Excellent

PostPosted: Oct 10th, '24, 20:52
by Germ
Yea, I tried that a few years back. Didn't work for me either...

Re: [Comment] Mageia Cauldron is Excellent

PostPosted: Oct 10th, '24, 21:05
by Germ
It would really be great if MX Snapshot could be ported to Mageia.

https://github.com/MX-Linux/mx-snapshot

Program used for creating functional ISO images from the running system. You can later on install/burn the ISO image on a USB flashdrive or a DVD (depending on the size of the image). Use MX Live USB Maker (GUI) or live-usb-maker (CLI tool) to burn the resulting image.


Edit: Wonder if you could get it to install and run with alien? I've never used alien.

Re: [Comment] Mageia Cauldron is Excellent

PostPosted: Oct 11th, '24, 09:10
by morgano
I would think MX snapshot have lots of incompatibilities. And alien is broken, IIRC.

HM... Our Live can boot and install a copy of running self (incl updates, settings etc) to a disk. Probably something to build on!